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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 03:25 AM
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Hamas: We'll move toward peace if Israel leaves occupied lands
DAMASCUS, Syria - Hamas could reciprocate moves toward peace if Israel agrees to withdraw from all lands occupied in 1967 and recognizes Palestinian rights, the group's leader Khaled Meshal said on Wednesday.

Meshal told a packed auditorium at Damascus University, however, that did not think Israel would be likely to make such commitments in the foreseeable future, leaving the Palestinians no option but to continue to resist occupation.

"If Israel withdrew to the 1967 borders, including Jerusalem, acknowledges the right of return, lifts its siege, dismantles the settlements and the wall and releases the prisoners, then it is possible for us as Palestinians and Arabs to make a serious step to match the Zionist step," Meshal said.

"Anything ahead of this is hypothetical; the main Israeli
parties have four objections: they are unanimous in their rejection of the 1967 borders, Jerusalem, the right of return and dismantling the settlements, so there is no chance for a compromise," added Meshal, who has been in exile in Syria for years.


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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 04:10 AM
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1. Gee

Drat, I was just about to join the paranoid hysteria about Hamas being eliminationist.

:sarcasm:
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 04:11 AM
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2. You could still join...
...their proposal is bullshit and completely one-sided!
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eyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 04:55 AM
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3. And you might also note
that every conciliatory remark they've made since taken power, they've subsequently disavowed or denied.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 04:58 AM
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4. I have noted that...
...it seems some, though, only like to read the title of threads.

Personally, I think this article is bullshit to the n-th degree! Israel withdrew from Gaza, even made it "Jew-free," and still the missiles rain down! I don't believe that Hamas, the terrorists and liars that they are, will EVER follow through with anything the "propose!"
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eyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 04:22 PM
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7. Sorry, I misphrased
"you might want to add in addition" would have been better, I meant to supplement your post, not contradict it.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 05:23 AM
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5. Seriously,

you guys are so utterly out of your depth on this stuff, it's sad.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 05:28 AM
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6. Oh...and you know what you are talking about?
:eyes:
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eyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 04:23 PM
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8. Oh really
please educate us, O wise one
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 11:12 PM
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9. Imagine, Hamas demanding that Israel comply with international law!
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eyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 06:20 AM
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10. Ironic, isn't it
or maybe surreal would be a better term
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scipian Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 11:28 PM
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12. Hamas has room to talk?
Edited on Sat May-06-06 11:30 PM by scipian
Hamas just tried to assasinate an opposition leader (Abbas). So the Hamasians(?) have room to talk about breaking the law?

Let's not forget also that all the Arab states who attacked Israel defied international law and revoked their lay to the land. Israel has broken the law but only in self-preservation.

EDIT: I'm not sure if this Hamas assasination attempt is proven yet. We'll see. Sorry if it's wrong.
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 12:10 PM
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15. imagine
hamas complying with international law!!

the UN resolutions give Israel a right to safe and secure borders. they also do not say that jerusalem goes to the palestinians. Furthermore the "Right of return" to israel proper by palestinians is a non starter. that would effectively destroy Israel. What should be done is monetary compensation given to the original owners of the property, based on land values. But at the same time compensation must be given to the jews driven out of arab lands.
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Beezer Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 11:56 PM
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11. And move to Florida?
or better yet Alaska??
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 03:08 AM
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13. They've made the same demands.....
again and again and it's a frickin' joke. They have done nothing to demonstrate their good faith and they demand to have everything on their own terms and are not willing to give anything in return.

In the meantime, they continue to lob rockets at Israel and cry foul when Israel defends itself.

None of these "requests" are going to happen and they damn well know it.

It's all just cheap drama to make their people think they have more power than they actually do.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 10:25 AM
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14. IMO, that's been the point all along
Hamas was elected so the Pal leadership could attempt to "move the goalposts" with regards to the peace negotiations.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 03:05 AM
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17. Yep.
But everybody should be on to the game by now. The only thing that's changed is the players.
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Burning Water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 01:49 PM
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16. It's the
Edited on Mon May-08-06 02:10 PM by Burning Water
"right of return" that is always the stopper. In other words, if Israel surrenders, we will negotiate a face-saving way for them to submit to genocide. They always try to slip that in with some other demands that could be met.

Israel should simply go ahead with whatever unilateral moves it needs to make until the Palestinians decide to hop on board and try and salvage what they can. But whatever steps that have been taken up to that time should be irreversible and not on the negotiating table.
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