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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-07-06 05:37 PM Original message |
Jimmy Carter: Punishing the innocent is a crime |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-07-06 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
1. Jimmy seems to be getting it right these days. |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-07-06 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
2. so is he playing dumb? |
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ShalachEtAmi (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-07-06 11:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Maybe thats what `Hudna` means as opposed to ceasefire ? |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 02:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Wow, it's invent yr own Arabic translation Hour... |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 01:10 AM Response to Reply #3 |
28. What Hudna? What ceasefire? |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 04:38 AM Response to Reply #28 |
37. A ceasefire means Hamas isn't attacking Israel... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 04:41 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Hamas is the PA! |
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Burning Water (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 01:57 PM Response to Reply #37 |
52. Yes, it does, if |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-10-06 06:38 AM Response to Reply #52 |
63. No it doesn't... |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 01:48 AM Response to Reply #3 |
32. Hamas terrorist activities during the 'Tahdia' (declared calm) |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-10-06 06:39 AM Response to Reply #32 |
64. How about supplying something from an unbiased source, barb? |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-10-06 01:12 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. Here's a ditty about a truce with 100 rocket attacks by Hamas |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-11-06 06:08 AM Response to Reply #70 |
76. Where's the ditty? I turned up my speakers for it but no joy... |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 12:13 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. You believe that all Palestinians must suffer because of that? |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 12:29 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. you certainly |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 03:13 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Seeing as how the article was about the Palestinian people suffering... |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 11:54 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. the palestenain health system... |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 12:44 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Reminds me of the state of the health system in other occupied lands |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 01:20 AM Response to Reply #17 |
30. "Blame" the duly elected government, Hamas ,for the problem |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 04:59 AM Response to Reply #30 |
40. So what do you suggest as a solution? |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 10:44 PM Response to Reply #40 |
57. Hamas should renounce violence. The solution is perfectly clear |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-10-06 06:44 AM Response to Reply #57 |
65. You know as well as I do they won't do that... |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-10-06 01:17 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Others have moderated over time, Violet |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-11-06 06:09 AM Response to Reply #71 |
77. That's sidestepping the issue... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-11-06 06:18 AM Response to Reply #57 |
79. If yr in any doubt that Palestinians have been dying... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 04:57 AM Response to Reply #12 |
39. I don't think getting aid to the Palestinians is helping Hamas... |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 10:20 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. What is it about you twisting my posts? |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 11:58 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. ? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 01:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
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number6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 09:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. how progressive >NOT |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 05:01 AM Response to Reply #24 |
41. Yeah, nothing like seeing open support for watching Palestinians suffer... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 05:13 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. What a poor analysis! |
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Burning Water (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 02:04 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. Violet, how is it |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-10-06 06:47 AM Response to Reply #54 |
66. I was just going to write a reply... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 01:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
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number6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 09:27 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. ok, what do you approve of ....? |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 02:54 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Hamas isn't the group firing the rockets... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 03:15 AM Response to Reply #6 |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 11:56 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. they're the govt... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 05:10 AM Response to Reply #13 |
42. There's a difference between responsibility and actually firing rockets... |
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eyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 12:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. They aren't firing |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 01:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 05:13 AM Response to Reply #21 |
44. Does the same standard apply to Israel? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 01:55 PM Response to Reply #44 |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 01:05 AM Response to Reply #2 |
27. I don't know which it is, but Carter's comments indicate he has |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 05:14 AM Response to Reply #27 |
45. His comments indicate he views Palestinians as human beings... |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 10:53 PM Response to Reply #45 |
58. His comments indicate he has blinders on about Hamas |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-10-06 06:50 AM Response to Reply #58 |
67. Can you explain how? |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
10. what's wrong with this picture? |
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Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 11:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
62. Of all the posts here |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-10-06 09:53 AM Response to Reply #62 |
69. Maybe between Hamas/Fatah... |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
16. Let's see how this works out. |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 01:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. your claiming.... |
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Burning Water (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 01:41 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Your last sentence |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
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v osk (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
23. DISSONANCE |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-08-06 11:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. bush did not elect hamas..... |
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v osk (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 08:19 AM Response to Reply #25 |
50. gaza situation |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
26. Hamas should stop collectively punishing the Palestinians |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 01:16 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Israel has rejected the Road Map. It never really accepted it. |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 01:28 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. "Hamas says talks with Israel would be a waste of time" |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 05:16 AM Response to Reply #31 |
46. And what did that have to do with Israel rejecting the Road Map? |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 03:38 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. and we also remember... |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 10:59 PM Response to Reply #34 |
59. Responsibility? That doesn't seem to be an operative word |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 04:27 AM Response to Reply #26 |
36. That's nonsense, absolutely. |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 11:15 PM Response to Reply #36 |
60. Renounce violence and the aid will come back. |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-11-06 02:15 AM Response to Reply #60 |
74. So, Hamas are a credible witness, now? |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 05:18 AM Response to Reply #26 |
47. It's not Hamas freezing funding, barb... |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 11:18 PM Response to Reply #47 |
61. Plain and simple , funds are frozen because of Hamas and its |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-10-06 06:55 AM Response to Reply #61 |
68. That's dangerous logic... |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-10-06 05:10 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. It's superb logic; I will stick with it |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-11-06 06:14 AM Response to Reply #73 |
78. It doesn't surprise me that you'd think so... |
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Andromeda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 03:16 AM Response to Original message |
33. Jimmy Carter should really stick with.... |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 03:58 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. I think those comments should have a wider audience. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 05:23 AM Response to Reply #35 |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 06:49 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Yes, I wonder what the tally would be re pro/con Carter? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-09-06 02:19 PM Response to Reply #33 |
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tatertop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-10-06 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
72. Jimmy Carter gets it! |
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Stockholm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-11-06 03:34 AM Response to Original message |
75. Jimmy Carter will go down in history as a |
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