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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 12:50 PM
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Israel might just NUKE Iran and/or Syria, you watch....
Edited on Thu Jul-13-06 01:49 PM by Nimrod2005
This will take place with the full blessing of George W. Bush and his neocons friends...The story line will be they had to do it, the US story line/message will be don't even think about developing Nukes!!! because we'll nuke you first...

This will be the US's message to North Korea and Iran, while keeping Israel very happy and strong in the region!!! Will also help Israel put down the Gaza uprising...etc.


It is a win win strategy for both the US and Israel!!!


:nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

P.S. All of this will help GOP win elections in 2006.
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redsoxliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 12:51 PM
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1. uhhh... no it's not win-win, and no it won't happen.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 12:52 PM
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2. I suppose it's possible.
Of course Syria could respond with chemical weapons on Tel Aviv and other major targets. Perhaps a first strike as Israel's nuke facilities.

Wouldn't that be all sorts of fucked up.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 12:53 PM
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3. Syria is even weaker than Saddam's paper tiger....
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 12:54 PM
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5. Oh, no it's not.
Syria's much tougher.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 12:57 PM
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11. Iran isn't and would strike back in several ways
I see the points in your OP, but I hope people we'll see that if Is. does this then things will go from bad to fucking horrible in a blink of an eye. Iran is not like Iraq or Syria - they are the real deal and probably one of the few nations that can fight back when cornered.


I learned a few things about cornered animals that have nothing to lose while playing in the woods when I was growing up.
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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:00 PM
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15. Don't think that China is going to sit back on this one
IIRC, China is one of the biggest importers of Iranian oil. I don't think they're going to let one of their biggest oil sources get turned into glass without some serious consequences and recuppercussions.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 12:54 PM
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4. If anything that stupid happens
What do you think the survival prospects of any American anywhere in the Middle East will be? the neocons ain't seen jihad yet if that happens.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 12:55 PM
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8. If it did happen Americans in the ME would be shit out of luck.
And so would Americans in America, because nuclear strikes in the ME could very well result in WWIII.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 12:54 PM
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6. Cheney's direction and Bush's blessing, so that Iran will launch
...something against Israel and that will give Bush the rationale to launch a U.S. attack against Iran. July 15, 2006 will be the next date which will live in infamy.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 12:55 PM
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7. Nukes are very messy.
And being a mad dog with nukes has it's drawbacks.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 12:56 PM
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9. Glow in the dark gasoline?
You are clearly out of your fucking mind.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 12:56 PM
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10. won't happen.
First, Israel has many other nasty options since they control the air. Second any use of a nuke would make their present day pariah status seem like a pleasant memory. Third, Pakistan, at the very least, would be under intense pressure to "let slip" a few nukes in retaliation.
Israel is crazy dangerous, but not suicidal.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 12:58 PM
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12. I agree with your analysis. We don't need the UN for any
diplomatic efforts this time either. Israel's actions will serve as our preemptive strike.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 12:59 PM
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13. I very much doubt that Israel will nuke Iran and/or Syria
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 12:59 PM
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14. Wouldn't there be a
"proximity" problem, especially with Syria? Considering that at some point the same wind blows over everyone, nuking is a lose-lose.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:01 PM
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16. Israel will NOT nuke anyone unless someone nukes or dirty-nukes them
If that happens, all bets are off.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:02 PM
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17. If Israel nukes anyone, they are finished as a nation.
That would be an unjustifiable act of mass murder that would bring about the eventual collapse of Israel.
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:39 PM
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20. Unless they are hit with a WMD first
I concur with you if they use it as a first strike weapon
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:12 PM
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18. No way: the proverbial "driven into the sea" would become fact, even were
it to be with sharp pointy sticks.
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:26 PM
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19. israel
has often said it will not be the first to introduce nuclear weapons. to me that means as long as nukes arent used on them, they will not use them in return.

it is a lose lose strategy for alll
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 01:45 PM
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21. I think Israel's conventional military can handle its neighbors
Edited on Thu Jul-13-06 01:45 PM by Mike Daniels
How manty times has Israel had its ass handed to them during conventional warfare?

What's that, zero?

The only incentive Israel has to go nuclear is if another country tries it first on them.
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Spinoza Donating Member (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:11 PM
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24. You are right.
Edited on Thu Jul-13-06 03:14 PM by Spinoza
They are crazy enough to actually believe that their neighbors, and about a 100 million+ Arabs (and Iranians) actually want to wipe them off the map. Now why would they be insane enough to ever believe that?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 05:46 PM
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26. really. Silly Israel.


The 1948 Arab-Israeli War is referred to as the "War of Independence" (Hebrew: מלחמת העצמאות or as the "War of Liberation" (Hebrew: מלחמת השחרור by Israelis. For Palestinians, the war marked the beginning of the events referred to as "The Catastrophe" ("al Nakba," Arabic: النكبة . After the United Nations partitioned the territory of the British Mandate of Palestine into two states, Jewish and Arab, the Arabs refused to accept it and the armies of Egypt, Syria, Transjordan, Lebanon and Iraq, supported by others, attacked the newly established State of Israel. It was the first in a series of open wars in the Arab-Israeli conflict. As a result, the region was divided between Israel, Egypt and Transjordan.




The Six-Day War (Hebrew: מלחמת ששת הימים transliteration: Milkhemet Sheshet HaYamim, Arabic: حرب الأيام الستة transliteration: ħarb al-ayam as-sita), also known as the 1967 Arab-Israeli War, Six Days War, or June War, was fought between Israel and the nearby Arab states of Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, and Syria. Egyptian aggression initiated the war as Egypt formed a blockade of Israeli shipping in the Straits of Tiran, removed the UNEF peacekeeping forces from the Sinai, and deployed a large military force in the Sinai on the Israeli border. <1> <2> <3> Responding in an act of defense, Israel launched a preemptive attack against Egypt. <4> <5> <6> <7> Jordan in turn attacked the Israeli cities of Jerusalem and Netanya. <8> <9> At the war's end, Israel had gained control of the Gaza Strip, the Sinai Peninsula, the West Bank, and the Golan Heights. The results of the war affect the geopolitics of the region to this day.



War of Attrition
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This is about the Israeli-Egyptian War of Attrition. For the military strategy, see Attrition warfare, for the game theoretical model see War of attrition (game).
Arab-Israeli conflict
1920 riots · Jaffa riots · 1929 riots · 1936-1939 uprising · 1948 Arab-Israeli War · 1956 Suez Crisis · 1967 Six-Day War · War of Attrition · 1973 Yom Kippur War · 1982 Lebanon War · First Intifada · al-Aqsa Intifada · 2006 Arab-Israeli War
The War of Attrition was a limited war fought between Egypt and Israel from 1968 to 1970. It was initiated by Egypt as a way to recapture the Sinai from Israel, which had controlled it since the Six-Day War. The war ended with a cease-fire signed between the countries in 1970 with frontiers at the same place as when the war started.




The Yom Kippur War, Ramadan War or October War (Hebrew: מלחמת יום הכיפורים; transliterated: Milkhemet Yom HaKipurim or מלחמת יום כיפור, Milkhemet Yom Kipur; Arabic: حرب أكتوبر‎; transliterated: ħarb October or حرب تشرين, ħarb Tishrin), also known as the 1973 Arab-Israeli War, was fought from October 6 to October 26, 1973, between Israel and a coalition of Arab nations led by Egypt and Syria. The war began on the day of Yom Kippur with a surprise joint attack by Egypt and Syria. They invaded the Sinai and Golan Heights, respectively, which had been captured by Israel in 1967 during the Six-Day War.<2>

The Egyptians and Syrians advanced during the first 24–48 hours, after which momentum began to swing in Israel's favor. By the second week of the war, the Syrians had been pushed entirely out of the Golan Heights. In the Sinai to the south, the Israelis had struck at the "seam" between two invading Egyptian armies, crossed the Suez Canal (where the old ceasefire line had been), and cut off an entire Egyptian army just as a United Nations cease-fire came into effect.

The war had far-reaching implications for many nations. The Arab world, which had been humiliated by the lopsided defeat of the Egyptian-Syrian-Jordanian alliance during the Six-Day War, felt psychologically vindicated by its string of victories early in the conflict. This vindication paved the way for the peace process that followed, as well as liberalizations such as Egypt's infitah policy. The Camp David Accords, which came soon after, led to normalized relations between Egypt and Israel—the first time any Arab country had recognized the Israeli state. Egypt, which had already been drifting away from the Soviet Union, then left the Soviet sphere of influence almost entirely.


as well as a number of lesser conflicts. A major theme in the history of the conflict has been the refusal of Arab nations to create a Palestinian state that would not involve the destruction of Israel. In the course of the conflict, many Arabs were displaced from what is now Israel, and many Jews were displaced from what is now Algeria, Bahrain, Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Morocco, the Palestinian Territories, Syria, Tunisia, and Yemen (see Palestinian refugees and Jewish exodus from Arab lands). The conflict has also been the source of two major Palestinian intifadas (uprisings). Al-Qaeda, a largely Arab organization, has cited the conflict among its justifications for attacks on targets in the West.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab-Israeli_conflict

Wow. Israel has been outrageously agressive, haven't they? :eyes:
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Spinoza Donating Member (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 07:19 PM
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27. Uh, I thought it was obvious that
I was being sarcastic, and/or facetious. OF COURSE Israel's Arab, Palestinian, and Iranian neighbors want to--have always wanted to-- wipe them off the map. I was making fun of the riduclous poster who called all Israelis insane. (The post in question has now, righfully, been deleted.)
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NJ Democrats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:45 PM
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25. Never
Israel ould only use a nuke if attacked w/ a WMD. Syria, are you kidding? Israel could invade and be in Damascus in a month, with Syria begging for peace. With Iran, Israel would lanch airstrikes but not ground troops.
Israel could kick a Syria-Iran Colitlation's ass.
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