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Denver Dave Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 01:04 PM
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Lebanon army to take control, but barracks bombed ???
Actions do not seem to add up. I see news reports that Israel wants the Lebanon army to take care of the Hizbollah militia, but in a close announcement Israel is bombing the Lebanon army barracks. Who is Israel at war with? At what point, does the "official" Lebanon army start shooting back as they are being killed?

I hear reports that a couple of soldiers are "kidnapped" in Gaza and from Lebanon across the border in Israel and the "appropriate" response is to bomb a civilian power plant, roads, Lebanon's airport and civilian targets resulting in 100's of civilian and some military deaths.

The policy of cripple the neighbors seems seems to be in place for decades.

I'm not saying that rockets should be shot into Israel or that soldiers should be kidnapped or markets should be bombed, but seems like the current actions are against the Gaza and Lebanon population and governments as a whole. As we have learned in Iraq, voids are not always filled the way that we would like.

Just my thoughts.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 05:03 PM
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1. Welcome to DU, Dave.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 06:52 PM
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2. Israel seems to be sending conflicting messages
like someone saying yes but shaking their head "no" at the same time.

Israel should have learned with their replacement for the PLO (Hamas) -- that as you write: "voids are not always filled the way that we would like."

We also know that Hizbolla is in a way the creation of Israel. The invasion of Lebanon by Israel created a power vacuum -- which was filled by the Hizbolla. So IF Israel had not invaded Lebanon in the 1980s -- then they would not be fighting Hizbolla today (or not -- we don't know for sure -- never will because Israel screwed up the fabric of time by invading another country -- and causing the death of a whole lot of people, including US Marines (because the idiot Prez RayGun sent in Marines and placed them in the most vulnerable of targets)).

It is not wise to respond to the Middle East conflicts with emotional knee jerk reactions -- or as if everything in the Middle East can be view with black/white glasses. Each of these groups has a very long history with each other -- and each side has a whole lot of a stake in thousands of years of blood feuds. It is like we are being pulled into the vortex of the mother of all blood feuds -- while listening to only one side (bawl -- that guy punched me in the nose).

Bush being the perfect person to be pulled into this complex mess because he can ONLY view the world as BLACK and WHITE -- he can see no Gray or even colors. Other presidents would ask their advisers who were EXPERTS in the history of the region to brief them on all players. I don't see anyone working for bush who has the ability to use complex logic -- or to see the whole picture.

And then we have the god damned religious right who are joyous about the blood shed -- if anything this ghouls are chanting -- more blood -- my jesus wants more blood to grease his wheels so he'll get here sooner. I think they are mixing up jesus with Count Dracula.

During the last major blood letting in the Middle east about 20 years ago I cut off all contact with the religiously insane branch of my family. Back then the fundamentalist preachers were so excited -- just like now.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 10:30 PM
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3. Israel lies. Bush lies. Blair lies. The neocons want global war!
Let's try to understand what's at play here:

'Lebanon crisis an international conspiracy'

By Firas Al-Atraqchi

Tuesday 18 July 2006, 20:49 Makka Time, 17:49 GMT


This particular conflict, and Israel's act of aggression on Lebanon, did not take place in a vacuum, and Israel did not act in some spontaneous fashion.

Hezbollah did not surprise Israel with the capture of the two Israeli occupation soldiers. Hezbollah leader Hasan Nasrallah has repeatedly warned that if Israel does not release its Lebanese prisoners, he will be compelled to take Israeli soldiers as bargaining chips.

And Israel has not been sitting idly by since its partial withdrawal from South Lebanon in 2000. It has not only continued to occupy parts of South Lebanon, but also has been violating Lebanese sovereignty, by air, sea, and land.

Israel has also been kidnapping innocent Lebanese citizens: fishermen and shepherds. And one fisherman from Tyre - my hometown - is still missing, and at least one shepherd was killed last year.

Furthermore, Israel has adamantly refused to give to Lebanon a map of the more than 400,000 land mines that it left behind in South Lebanon, and which continue to kill Lebanese children in the region.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/D259C343-ED88-4C43-B839-BCEFBED61924.htm
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