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StandWatie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 03:21 PM
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A bankrupt policy
Who is the head of the Hamas military wing in
Hebron? Last week, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF)
announced that soldiers from the undercover unit
Duvdevan had liquidated Ahmed Bader, describing
him as "the head of the Hamas military wing in
Hebron." Seven weeks earlier, on June 22, we were
informed that a force of the Border Police and the
Shin Bet security service had eliminated "the head
of the military wing of Hamas in Hebron." On that
occasion the part was played by Abdullah Qawasmeh.
Three months before that, on March 18, it was
reported that the IDF had terminated Ali Alan, who
was also "the head of the military wing of Hamas
in Hebron." Seven months prior to that, on August
28, 2002, it was announced that the IDF had
arrested "the head of the military wing of Hamas
in Hebron," Abdel Halek Natshe. Less than a year
before that, in November 2001, the IDF reported
that a helicopter-launched missile killed Jail
Jadallah - "the head of the military wing of Hamas
in Hebron."


http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/340032.html
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 03:29 PM
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1. I thought that 12 year old they killed last week was the head of Hamas

Must be one of those really egalitarian orgs, like Al Qaeda, which as we have all noticed the last few years, is composed entirely of "9-11 masterminds."
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StandWatie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 03:44 PM
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3. I'm begining to believe
they have no idea who the hell they are killing and just picking targets at random to try and make it seem like they have a clue what to do.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 11:57 PM
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12. I do feel things smell a bit desperate now.
The whole thing about Arafat is a form of denial. It all
stinks of denial and paranoia and disfunction. Like if Arafat
is killed, it will somehow be fine. I have the feeling that if
it is admitted that Arafat is just a stooge, then they must
also admit the failure of the current policy, that is why all
the fuss over Arafat. They have to admit all those people on
both sides died for nothing. Getting rid of him is the big hope.
This shows up in the delusion that if only Arafat had let him,
Abbas could have cleaned up the terror networks, even though he
had nothing to do that with.

Or maybe Sharon just doesn't want to leave his old enemy behind
him when he falls.

It's like Pooty-Poot and his phoney election in Chechnya, things
will be settling down real-soon now ...
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 03:32 PM
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2. The fallacy of it is
that killing one terrorist will end terrorism

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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 04:47 PM
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5. Then there's fallacy #2:
that killing a bunch of terrorists will end terrorism.
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LastDemInIdaho Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 05:57 PM
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7. Don't forget fallacy #3
Caving to terrorists will bring peace to the region.
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 06:26 PM
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10. The US caves to terrorists
when it gives money to the Israeli army - do you have a problem with this?
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StandWatie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 06:27 PM
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11. you could always try
not acting like scum in the first place before some "terrorist" decides to smack you in the face for it, but since it's a wee bit late for that you should at least have the good grace to quit acting like a villian while you fight the guy.
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 04:46 PM
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4. The head is dead -- long live the head?
Are they sequentially killing those who take over as head? Or do they have no inkling of who the head really is? Or do they know but playing for sound bites whenever they kill someone fairly high up? Does it matter?
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LastDemInIdaho Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 05:55 PM
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6. And what policy is it that targets Jewish children for death?
What defense do you offer for the hamas murder of Jewish children?
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 06:04 PM
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8. They really should issue press releases expressing regret

at the loss of innocent life, and explain that their intelligence indicated that a top level IDF official was in the area, planning an attack on Gaza, and emphasizing that they make every effort to avoid civilian casualties.

Why don't you zoom them an email and suggest that?
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:01 AM
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13. Better if you did it Ductape,
If you can sound sincere, that is. Hamas suicide bombers are groomed for the job, and given glory before death in the claims they make about going to heaven and living with dozens of virgins. They glory in the dead and show the bomber pictured in his glory next to the dead Israelis. It's like a trophy. You, with your commitment to human rights and the GC, might at least expain that the rest of the world doesn't see it that way.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 04:07 AM
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16. Maybe if the Mossad embeds start it, it'll catch on

And just think, if Hamas had Apache choppers, they wouldn't have to send humanbombers to the bus stop - they could fire missiles into the crowded street like a civilized country.
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 07:12 AM
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17. they wouldn't miss
an opportunity to miss an opportunity. No doubt. The cards are stacked against them. There must be a G-d in heaven.
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StandWatie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 06:22 PM
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9. I have no idea
the IDF was disappearing Palestinians way before there ever was a suicide bomber so I really don't think it has anything to do with Israel's policies.
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:01 AM
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15. Hmmm
It seems you have a point. Can you back that up with factual documents from universally accepted sources?
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:09 AM
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14. The latest assassination
ws of the Islamic Jihad head in the Hebron area. Maybe the Hamas heads have run out.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/340949.html
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