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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 11:26 PM
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Hillary Clinton calls Iran a threat to U.S., Israel
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"Calling Iran a danger to the U.S. and one of Israel's greatest threats, U.S. senator and presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton said "no option can be taken off the table" when dealing with that nation.

"U.S. policy must be clear and unequivocal: We cannot, we should not, we must not permit Iran to build or acquire nuclear weapons," the Democrat told a crowd of Israel supporters. "In dealing with this threat ... no option can be taken off the table."

Clinton spoke at a Manhattan dinner held by the largest pro-Israel lobbying group in the U.S., the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. Some 1,700 supporters applauded as she cited her efforts on behalf of the Jewish state and spoke scathingly of Iran's decision to hold a conference last month that questioned whether the Holocaust took place.

"To deny the Holocaust places Iran's leadership in company with the most despicable bigots and historical revisionists," Clinton said, criticizing what she called the Iranian administration's "pro-terrorist, anti-American, anti-Israeli rhetoric."

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/02/02/america/NA-GEN-US-Clinton-Iran.php
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 11:30 PM
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1. **SIGH !!!** n/t
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 11:32 PM
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2. Hawkish Hil, trying to show she's as ready to nuke the planet as anyone else....
:argh:
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 11:34 PM
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3. She will say anything to get elected
She goes from being against the war to starting another one.I cant stand her anymore,she is as phony as a 3 dollar bill
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 09:45 AM
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18. at this point
its more "she will say anything to get contributions"
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 11:35 PM
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4. There's nothing like having rich strangers decide what you're going
to die for.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 11:36 PM
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5. What?
I thought she quit drinking the Kool-Aid. That's a damn shame.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 11:37 PM
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6. ah, the warmongering continues
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 11:38 PM
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7. Another Joe?
Ya know it don't matter if Iran builds any nuclear power plants...we (the U.S.) will probably supply them in order to keep this crappy war going longer.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 11:44 PM
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8. Secret Service secretly developing 'nuclear tampon?'
The Secret Service Department of Planning has alledgedly been developing a 'nuclear tampon' since the late 80's, but the project has renewed funding since Hillary Clinton entered the Presidential race in 2008. Continuous access to the 'launch codes' can be 'compartmentalized' and advancements in micro-circuitry allow Madame President to issue ATTACK orders from anywhere, including the loo... Developing...


Matt Sludge (Ann Coulter's b*#ch)

(not really news)
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 11:46 PM
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9. Hillary...you are part of the problem!
Edited on Thu Feb-01-07 11:48 PM by TwoSparkles
In the run-up to the Iraq war--Hillary was in line with BushCo's policies
all the way. Recently--even though Kerry, Kennedy and others said they
regretted their Iraq-war votes--Hillary refused to say such a thing.

Now--as she campaigns--she calls out the mistakes of the Iraq war. What
good is that? She didn't stand up--while we were going to war based on lies.
She refused to speak out against Bush and this failed war--as it escalated into
a catastrophe. She took NO meaningful action to stop any of it.

But now---when it means nothing--she says how awful the Iraq war is----as she--ONCE AGAIN--
stands with BushCo in beating the war drum. This time she'll not stand in his
way on Iran.

It is revolting and insulting that there are neocons in the Democratic party--who think that
the American people are horrendously ignorant. Hillary is a warmonger. She's siding with
Bush and helping him make his case for war! She's not just kow towing for votes. She
is standing in line with the neocons.

She was silent on Abu Graib. She practically had nothing to say about torture, or illegal
wiretapping. I've barely heard a peep from her--as Bush asserts dictatorial powers and
trashes the Constitution. I'm sorry, but if you're not screaming from the rafters about
how our democracy is being stolen---then you are part of the evil.

I don't know when it happened, or how it happened--but Hillary Clinton sold out long ago.

This news should leave NO DOUBT that Hillary is part of the warmongering, corporatist, sold-out,
elites. We'd damn well better get a true progressive in the President's Chair in 08--someone
who can bust up this cabal. It's 08 or never.
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Merrill Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 11:46 PM
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10. Hillary has lost her mind... americans do not want more war
Published on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 by San Francisco Chronicle
GOP Fears War Could Help Dems for Years
by Marc Sandalow

The bloodshed in Iraq already has cost the Republicans control of Congress, devastated the Bush presidency and made Democrats the favorites heading into the 2008 presidential campaign.

With no end in sight to the nearly 4-year-old war, there is widening concern among Republicans that losing what was described widely in 2003 as "the biggest gamble of the modern presidency'' could hurt their party's electoral prospects for a generation to come.

The safety of the troops and security of the nation naturally are at the forefront of the debate over the way forward in Iraq. Lawmakers from both parties have exhibited deliberate caution, frustrating many constituents who want Congress to play a more aggressive role. The Senate has put off a vote on a nonbinding resolution opposing Bush's plan to send more troops to Iraq until at least next week, and the House is waiting for the Senate.

Yet the potential political consequences form an unmistakable backdrop to decisions being made on Capitol Hill, which many compare to consequential votes cast 40 years ago during the Vietnam War.

Republicans have held advantages over Democrats on national security matters since the 1960s, presenting themselves during the Cold War and the post-Sept. 11 years as the more competent, muscular, military-friendly party, less tolerant of America's aggressors and more willing to use force.

Iraq may be changing the perception.

"In times of war, the instinct is to trust dad more than mom, and the Republicans have benefited from that,'' said James Pinkerton, a former aide to Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush and a fellow at the nonpartisan New America Foundation. "But if dad keeps wrecking the car, then there may be reason to change.''

The level of concern was palpable among many of those attending the Republican Party's annual meeting in Washington last week, according to several participants, and can be detected in the fretful statements of GOP lawmakers as they weigh Bush's latest war plans.

"Republicans have to demonstrate that they can competently manage the military (and) patriotic symbols they have been entrusted with, and right now that's an open question,'' Pinkerton said.

The queasiness of many Republicans is reflected in poll numbers that show Americans no longer favor their president or their party to keep the country safe.

An ABC News/Washington Post poll conducted earlier this month -- which found 70 percent of Americans disapproved of Bush's handling of the war -- found that a majority trust Democrats to best keep the country safe from terrorists. The same survey asked respondents to say whom they trusted to do a better job handling the situation in Iraq. Sixty percent said Democrats, and 33 percent said Bush.

"The problem we've got is at the very core level, Americans are beginning to doubt that Republicans know what they are doing in foreign policy,'' said GOP strategist Mike Collins.

"George Bush's presidency is intertwined with the Middle East indelibly. If this is a successful endeavor, if Iraq becomes a democratic state, a stable and democratic state -- and I hope to God this is a success -- George Bush will be remembered as the architect and will go down in history as a genius,'' Collins said. "By the same token, if the pessimists are right, the cost is incalculable.''

Mirroring the Republican fear is the Democratic hope that the blunders that led to the current situation in Iraq will erase the GOP's long-held edge on national security issues.

"The results of the 2006 election preshadow what could be a fundamental electoral realignment propelled by voter disenchantment with the war in Iraq,'' said Chris Lehane, a Democratic consultant based in San Francisco who worked in the Clinton White House and on the presidential campaigns of Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts and retired Gen. Wesley Clark.

Lehane said a better analogy than Vietnam is the Great Depression, when the GOP's bungling of the nation's economy provided President Franklin Roosevelt an opportunity in 1932 to offer his New Deal, which provided Democratic victories for decades.

Lehane and other Democrats said the party will be able to capitalize on events in the long run only if, like Roosevelt, they are able to present an alternative vision that makes Americans feel secure.

"Clearly, the mess that President Bush has made of Iraq has broken the spell of 9/11,'' said Will Marshall, president of the Progressive Policy Institute, a centrist Democratic think tank in Washington. "Right now, the picture is one of cratering confidence of Bush's managing of national security.

"Democrats now must offer a positive plan for combatting jihadist extremism,'' Marshall said. "It means the door is open for Democrats to win that argument, but they will have to explain how they can do it better.''

Marshall said leaders in Congress and the 2008 presidential candidates must resist the tug of isolationism and offer a national security framework that features rebuilding international alliances and does not shy away from force when necessary.

Strategists on both sides say it is premature to make assumptions about the long-term political consequences without knowing the outcome of the war.

"No question that Iraq had done great damage to the Bush administration,'' said P.J. Crowley, director of National Defense and Homeland Security at the Center for American Progress, a left-leaning think tank. "To the extent that the Bush administration portrayed itself as a group of national security all-stars who would effectively manage the world in the 21st century -- that image has largely blown up in their faces.''

But Crowley noted that the enduring images of the Vietnam War also were not in focus when the Democrat-controlled Congress passed the Gulf of Tonkin resolution to expand the war in 1964 and voted to cut off funds a decade later.

"The first thing that comes to mind for most Americans is the picture of a helicopter atop the (American) embassy'' as the U.S. fled Saigon,'' Crowley said. "Since we really don't have that picture yet, it is hard to know what the enduring legacy of Iraq will be.''

Said Pinkerton: "I think the big question for 2008 and beyond is who is going to get tagged with the failure in Iraq. You show me who gets blamed for that, and I'll tell you who is in trouble for the next generation.''

Rich Galen, a Republican strategist who spent six months as a civilian media consultant in Iraq, cautioned against drawing long-term conclusions about a war that pushed Bush's approval rating to historic heights in 2003 and then sent it plummeting to today's lows.

"There's no way to know at the end of January 2007 what the situation will be in Iraq in November 2008,'' Galen said. "It could be dreadful, but it could have calmed down to a gentle simmer.''

And GOP strategist Collins pointed out that nearly half the Democratic members of Congress voted to authorize the use of force in Iraq in 2002, and the political consequences could tarnish individuals from both parties.

"Politicians of both stripes ignored better evidence and went along with the crowd -- Republicans because they didn't want to embarrass George Bush, Democrats because they were afraid of him. Neither did their constituents a service.

"There's going to be mud on both parties' boots from this for years,'' Collins said.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 11:54 PM
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11. STOP Listening to LIEberman, Hillary.
:grr:

:wtf:
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:06 AM
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12. "the Democrat told a crowd of Israel supporters."
This is exactly what Edwards did.

They're playing to the special interests crowd.

Is there any wonder that used car salesmen are generally regarded more ethical than politicians?

The pragmatic in me loathes but understands this. But forget pragmatism right now. This country needs a hero/ine, a breathe of fresh air, some truth, and fast.

Hillary supporters... don't fret. This is the same old/same old political plays. You too Edwards supporters. I don't think either of them are going to blast Iran. They'll just backpeddle on the rhetoric. I'll vote for either if they are our nominee.

Until such time that Hillary or Edwards become our nominee, and speaking only for myself... I'll keep my fingers crossed for Gore/Clark/Obama in any combo.
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:11 AM
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13. The "greatest threat" to the USA...is israel and its "embedded minions "... n/t
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:44 AM
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14. Same old same.
The only thing politicians like more than the smell of napalm in the morning is the feel of cold cash at any time of day.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:51 AM
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15. I'm beginning to think Hillary and Lieberman make a nice couple
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BRLIB Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:58 AM
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16. She is an arrogant a-hole and I will not vote in 08 if this trash
and warmonger is the nominee!The US is the greatest threat to the world. Ask anyone not in this country!

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BRLIB Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:20 AM
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17. Additionally I say
Obama is class,
Hillary is white trash!
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