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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:04 AM
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Two sentenced for Israeli deaths
A Palestinian Authority court in the occupied West Bank has sentenced two Palestinians to 15 years in jail for killing two Israelis last month.

The Palestinians shot two off-duty but armed Israeli soldiers who were hiking near the city of Hebron.

Two other Palestinians were also killed in the gun battle.

Speaking on Tuesday, Samil al-Safi, a security official in Hebron, said the two "were criminals who carried out a criminal act against Israelis".

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/DAA65AC0-3993-4C93-9E5D-76EE3330ED1E.htm
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:05 AM
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1. Father of terror victim slams Olmert for letting PA try the killers
The father of an Israeli murdered last month by Palestinian terrorists while hiking near Hebron lashed out Wednesday at Prime Minister Ehud Olmert for failing to insist that they be extradited to Israel.

The Palestinian Authority sentenced the perpetrators of the attack to 15 years in prison on Tuesday, for killing Ahikam Amihai and David Rubin, both Israel Defense Forces soldiers on leave.

Rabbi Yehuda Amihai, Ahikam's father, said that "the Palestinian Authority cannot bring murderers of soldiers to trial, only Israel can." The Hebron Jewish Council also expressed Wednesday its outrage over the fact that the PA was allowed to try the two terrorists, both of whom were employed by the PA.

The defendants, 24-year-old Amar Taha, a Palestinian police officer, and 26-year-old Ali Dandanes, a PA court clerk, turned themselves in after the attack, fearing they would be captured by Israeli security forces.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/947490.html
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:42 AM
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2. That they were automatically expected
to be extricated to Israel says so much about the attitude of superiority of some in Israel. The PA has sentenced them but I am sure that sentence will not be enough to please the victims (is it ever anywhere?)
The sad part is that it will almost inevitably lead to increased violence against Palestinians in the WB as settlers claim some divine right of vengeance
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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:48 AM
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3. Do you have a crystal ball?
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 11:49 AM by Vegasaurus
What precedent is there for increased settler violence based upon rulings by the Palestinian Authority on matters involving deaths of Israelis?

Why don't you provide some documentation of prior cases where the outcome of a PA decision was as you predict?

on edit: Thank you.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:57 AM
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4. Show me a case where it has not n/t
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:11 AM
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7. that imagination again....never quits does it?
funny hows its always one way....israelis cant help themselves to not do evil things (i really should keep a list of your "predictions" and accusations...and then we can show how 99% have been off?)

your answer:

Rehavam Ze'evi...when his killers were sentenced......no settler violence .
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so tell us where you figured that there would be "settler violence"...i get the impression that you just made this up as well, but i am open minded, so tell us....
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:21 PM
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11. Nope no settler violence
It was IDF who did that for them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rehavam_Zeevi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamdi_Quran

It is good of you to be willing to defend the settlers honor though I stand corrected.
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:54 PM
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13. you confuse "honor" with "imagination"
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 03:55 PM by pelsar
The sad part is that it will almost inevitably lead to increased violence against Palestinians

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It is good of you to be willing to defend the settlers honor though I stand corrected.


you just made it up, i corrected you....and thats all there is to it. Nothing to do with settlers (unless in your world its acceptable to make up stories about people who you disagree with....but that does seem to be the case, at least here)
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:10 PM
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14. so there is no settler violence
i stand corrected again
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eyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 04:08 AM
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5. Are you aware
that the Oslo agreements require the PA to extradite them (not that that's ever happened)?

And given the history of previous such cases, I wouldn't be surpirsed to see them quitly released in a few months.

Besides that, I'm curious what they were actually charged with; in previous cases where the PA tried Palestinians for attacks on Israelis, they weren't charged with murder but rather with "harming the Palestinian national interest" or some such.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:55 AM
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6. Is there any reciprocity?
If not who ever signed it is a fool and should have been the one to have gotten one 72 year old virgin when he got to Paradise a few years ago. So apparently Israel allowed this Oslo or not, or will they simply raid the jail and take them to Israel?
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Shaktimaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:03 AM
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8. reciprocity? raid the jail?
I know why Israel isn't into that...

Israelis also suffered considerable losses, including the death of two
reservists who became lost in the West Bank, were arrested by Palestinian police in the
PA town of Ramallah, and then were dragged from the local jail and killed by a lynch
mob.


http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:XRW__jD4qG8J:www.oup.com/uk/orc/bin/9780199289783/01student/cases/israel_palestine.pdf+palestinian+mob+jail+israeli+intifada+lynched&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us&client=firefox-a#4
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:12 PM
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9. Israel is not in to what
Jail raids, reciprocity, or both?
Jericho in 2006 would beg to differ with former, as to the latter the reservists killed in Ramallah were tragic but the incident did not happen in a vacuum, there were surrounding circumstances as there were in Jericho, both incidents IMHO were forms of vigilante justice.

On the subject of the PA handling he cases of the militants did the Israeli government allow this despite Oslo? It would seem so, and what of the settler who are allowed to beat, harass, humiliate, take land from using creatively applied laws on a daily basis with impunity, is there "justice" there?

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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:17 PM
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10. Dude, you've got the worst case of word salad of anyone on this board
What are you trying to say?
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:18 PM
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12. delete
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 03:27 PM by azurnoir
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