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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:04 PM
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Iraqi Fighters Urge Attacks On Americans 'Because Of Gaza'
The Islamic Army in Iraq is calling its operatives to step up attacks against Americans, in response to Israel's policies in the Gaza Strip.

The group launched what labels the "Iraqi Resistance Campaign to Help Gaza."

The campaign involves increasing "military activities" against the partners of the Zionists and American enemies of humanity.

"We call on all states and nations to act and do away with this injustice towards innocent people in Gaza," it said

The group said that "war crimes" perpetrated by United States President George W. Bush and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert were only meant to cover up their failures in other areas.

The statement, received via the group's email distribution list, was signed by several Sunni Jihadi groups in Iraq.

---EOE---

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1201070773917&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:07 PM
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1. Because no one will do it to help Iraq?
That's actually very sad.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:23 PM
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2. I always wondered why...
neighboring countries didn't come to the aid of Iraqi's. I think New Orleans provides a good answer.
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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:28 PM
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3. And do the Iraqi care about the plight of the Palestinians?
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 02:29 PM by Vegasaurus
No, they have been kicked out of the country.

"You are Palestinians. Why are you still living in Iraq?" Mohammed recalled the man saying. "You have 48 hours to leave."

Within 24 hours, Mohammed was gone. The 36-year-old was among dozens of people who loaded their meager belongings onto buses at dawn Wednesday inside Baghdad's main Palestinian enclave in the Baladiyat neighborhood. They drove north toward the Syrian border, joining a growing exodus of Palestinians now following their familiar story line: an unwelcome people searching for a home.


"Killings, threats, intimidations and kidnappings are becoming the norm for Palestinians in Iraq," the U.N. Assistance Mission for Iraq said in a report this month. "Many of these actions are reportedly carried out by the militias wearing police or special forces uniform."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/24/AR2007012401888.html

The Palestinians continue to be the pawns of the Arab world.

on edit: I don't know why the link and the comment have lines through them.
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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:32 PM
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:28 PM
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5. Things change in a year....

Massive U.S. air strikes pound insurgent havens south of Baghdad

http://allcanadiansearch.ca/news/world/article.php?article=http://ca.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rss/world/*http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080110/world/iraq
By Hamza Hendawi, The Associated Press

ZAMBARANIYAH, Iraq - U.S. warplanes unleashed one of the most intense air strikes of the Iraq war Thursday, dropping more than 18,000 kilograms of explosives in a thunderous 10-minute onslaught on suspected "al-Qaida in Iraq" safe havens in Sunni farmlands south of Baghdad.

The mighty barrage, recalling the Pentagon's "shock and awe" raids during the 2003 invasion, appeared to mark a significant escalation in a countrywide offensive launched this week to try to cripple remaining insurgent strongholds.


http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL1069138220080110?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews

U.S. warplanes pound southern Baghdad outskirts
Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:06pm EST

By Peter Graff

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - U.S. warplanes launched their biggest air strike in Iraq since at least 2006 on Thursday, bombarding date palm groves on Baghdad's southern outskirts with more than 40,000 pounds of bombs in a matter of minutes.
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"Thirty-eight bombs were dropped within the first 10 minutes, with a total tonnage of 40,000 pounds," the military said in a statement. "Each bomber passed over twice and the F-16s followed to complete the set."
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U.S. forces spokesman Maj. Winfield Danielson said Thursday's air strike was the biggest in Iraq since at least 2006. A spokeswoman for U.S. forces in central Iraq, Maj. Allayne Conway, said it was too soon to assess the damage inflicted.



UN Raps Iraq for Withholding 'Grim' Civilian Toll
By Yara Bayoumy
AlertNet
April 25, 2007

The United Nations accused Iraq on Wednesday of withholding sensitive civilian casualty figures
because the government fears the data would be used to paint a "very grim" picture of a worsening
humanitarian crisis. The criticism was contained in a new U.N. human rights report on Iraq which drew fire from U.S. officials in Baghdad and the Iraqi government. They said it was flawed and contained numerous inaccuracies.

The United Nations Assistance Mission in Iraq (UNAMI) said Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki's government would not release data on civilian deaths amid spiralling sectarian violence between majority Shi'ites and once dominant Sunni Arabs. "UNAMI emphasises again the utmost need for the Iraqi government to operate in a transparent manner," the mission said in its latest report on human rights in Iraq.U.N. officials said they were given no official reason why their requests for specific official data had been turned down. U.S. military commanders now give percentages to express broad increases or decreases for civilian deaths. "We were told that the government was becoming increasingly concerned about the figures being used to portray the situation as very grim," UNAMI human rights officer Ivana Vuco told a news conference.
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/mortality/2007/0425unraps.htm


http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/occupation/2007/0605bombardment.htm
US Doubles Air Attacks in Iraq
By Charles J. Hanley
Associated Press
June 5, 2007
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issue...
Four years into the war that opened with "shock and awe," U.S. warplanes have again stepped up attacks in Iraq, dropping bombs at more than twice the rate of a year ago.
The airpower escalation parallels a nearly four-month-old security crackdown that is bringing 30,000 additional U.S. troops into Baghdad and its surroundings - an urban campaign aimed at restoring order to an area riven with sectarian violence. It also reflects increased availability of planes from U.S. aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf. And it appears to be accompanied by a rise in Iraqi civilian casualties.
In the first 4 1/2 months of 2007, American aircraft dropped 237 bombs and missiles in support of
ground forces in Iraq, already surpassing the 229 expended in all of 2006, according to U.S. Air Force figures obtained by The Associated Press.

"Air operations over Iraq have ratcheted up significantly, in the number of sorties, the number of
hours (in the air)," said Col. Joe Guastella, Air Force operations chief for the region. "It has a lot to do with increased pressure on the enemy by MNC-I" - the Multinational Corps-Iraq - "combined with more carriers."
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Examples of attacks, as reported in the Air Force's daily summary:
-Last Friday, an Air Force F-16 fighter dropped a guided 500-pound bomb near the northern city of Tal Afar that destroyed a vehicle laden with explosives to be used as a bomb.
-The day before, an F-16 dropped a similar bomb on "an inaccessible building being used by insurgents" near Samarra, north of Baghdad, with "good effects."
-Last Wednesday, another F-16 dropped bombs on "an illegal bridge and an insurgent vehicle in Baghdad."



Iraq Death Toll Rivals
Rwanda Genocide, Cambodian Killing Fields
By Joshua Holland
AlterNet
September 17, 2007
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issue...
According to a new study, 1.2 million Iraqis have met violent deaths since the 2003 invasion, the
highest estimate of war-related fatalities yet. The study was done by the British polling firm ORB,
which conducted face-to-face interviews with a sample of over 1,700 Iraqi adults in 15 of Iraq's 18
provinces. Two provinces -- al-Anbar and Karbala -- were too dangerous to canvas, and officials in a third, Irbil, didn't give the researchers a permit to do their work. The study's margin of error was plus-minus 2.4 percent. Field workers asked residents how many members of their own household had been killed since the invasion. More than one in five respondents said that at least one person in their home had been murdered since March of 2003. One in three Iraqis also said that at least some neighbors "actually living on street" had fled the carnage, with around half of those having left the country. In Baghdad, almost half of those interviewed reported at least one violent death in their household.
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These numbers suggest that the invasion and occupation of Iraq rivals the great crimes of the last century -- the human toll exceeds the 800,000 to 900,000 believed killed in the Rwandan genocide in 1994, and is approaching the number (1.7 million) who died in Cambodia's infamous "Killing Fields" during the Khmer Rouge era of the 1970s.
While the stunning figures should play a major role in the debate over continuing the occupation, they probably won't. That's because there are three distinct versions of events in Iraq -- the bloody criminal nightmare that the "reality-based community" has to grapple with, the picture the commercial media portrays and the war that the occupation's last supporters have conjured up out of thin air.

Similarly, American discourse has also developed three different levels of Iraqi casualties. There's the approximately 1 million killed according to the best epidemiological research conducted by one of the world's most prestigious scientific institutions, there's the 75,000-80,000 (based on news reports) the Washington Post and other commercial media allow, and there's the clean and antiseptic blood-free war the administration claims to have fought (recall that they dismissed the Lancet findings out of hand and yet offered no numbers of their own). Here's the troubling thing, and one reason why opposition to the war isn't even more intense than it is: Americans were asked in an AP poll conducted earlier this year how many Iraqi civilians they thought had been killed as a result of the invasion and occupation, and the median answer they gave was 9,890. That's less than a third of the number of civilian deaths confirmed by U.N. monitors in 2006 alone.
According to a 2005 report by Lt. Col. Dean Mengel at the Army War College, the number of rounds being fired off is enormous: noted that the Army estimated it would need 1.5 billion small arms rounds per year, which was three times the amount produced just three years earlier. In another, it was noted by the Associated Press that soldiers were shooting bullets faster than they could be produced by the manufacturer. 1.5 billion rounds per year …
Given that the estimated number of active insurgents in Iraq has never exceeded 30,000 -- and is usually given as less than 20,000 -- that leaves a lot of deadly lead flying around. Everyone agrees that the U.S. soldier is the best-trained fighter on earth, so it's somewhat bizarre that war supporters believe their shots rarely hit anybody.

Joshua Holland is an AlterNet staff writer.
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/mortality/2007/0917orbpolldeaths.htm

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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:38 PM
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6. So the US's occupation of Iraq sucks
too many people have died, it has been a foreign policy disaster. Most of us agree.

But don't make the Gazans the pawns. The Gazans have nothing to do with Iraq, and have not been helped by the Iraqi at all (see previous article; they've been forced to leave).

The Iraqi have legitimate beefs with the US, but they don't need to bring the situation in Gaza as part of their grievances. They don't care about the Gazans either, and their actions have proven that.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:47 PM
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7. I see too many similarities...
with the history of US intervention across the globe....and I don't care to lump societies of people together and try to discern what 'they think'.
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breakaleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:05 PM
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8. 1.2 Million Iraqis dead. That is staggering. nt
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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:54 PM
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9. It's horrifying
But linking Gaza and the war in Iraq is just as fallacious as linking 9/11 and Iraq. There is no connection, and the Iraqi have shown no love for their Palestinian brothers (why would they kick them out of the country?).

Just two separate, very miserable sets of circumstances, and it's disingenuous to try to link them.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:18 PM
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10. Interesting that Palestinians have never attacked American targets.
Lord knows, the US has been instrumental in their ongoing oppression.

I think that's pretty amazing actually.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:26 PM
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11. There has actually been quite an extensive number of Americans killed by Palestinian attacks
The one that immediately comes to mind is the Hebrew University cafeteria bombing of 2002 which killed serveral Americans.

Hamas took credit for that bombing.

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Shaktimaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:59 AM
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12. But it happens to be incorrect.
In 1997 a Palestinian shot an acquaintance of mine in the head at the empire state building.

I realize that this was an individual act and not something that was planned or supported by any Palestinian leaders or organizations, unlike the terrorism against Israel. But I don't find it amazing that those in charge refrain from attacking Americans on purpose. Palestine gets the majority of its aid from the US, we pay for the vast bulk of the UNRWA for instance, far more annually than the entire Muslim and Arab states combined. We are also one of the few states who have accepted Palestinian refugees and granted them citizenship, again something that sets us apart from the Arab world.

The US has been instrumental in giving the Palestinians help that has made them the second most literate people in the entire Middle East, gave them greenhouses in Gaza and keeps their society from falling apart at the seams day after day. If not for American generosity the Palestinians would be lacking even the few advantages that they currently possess.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 05:40 AM
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14. I'm clearly not saying no American has ever been killed or injured. Using your logic one could
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 05:42 AM by ProgressiveMuslim
say since Israel killed Rachel Corrie, their goal is to kill americans.

Do you dispute that as a matter of "policy" that Palestinian militant have not sought out American targets to punish the US?

I don't see it.
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Shaktimaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:02 PM
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16. Did you read what I wrote?
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 03:04 PM by Shaktimaan
I realize that this was an individual act and not something that was planned or supported by any Palestinian leaders or organizations, unlike the terrorism against Israel.

That said your counterargument still is an inadequate comparison. If an Israeli traveled to Oregon to shoot Rachel in the head then the comparison would make sense. But even assuming that the bulldozer driver killed Rachel on purpose, (which will never be clear) she was not killed for being American but because of where she was and what she was doing. If she were Israeli herself it would have made no difference.

The Palestinian who attacked the ESB, though, went there expressly to kill Americans and punish America. It doesn't matter anyway because I never said that it was Palestinian policy to do this. (I specifically said it wasn't.) I was refuting your assertion that Palestinians have never attacked American targets.

But it is important you realize that this wasn't an "accident" of violence, whereby Americans just happened to be killed, (as in examples where American students were caught in suicide bombings in Jerusalem.) Americans were the target here of a planned act of terrorism. Even assuming the worst, it was not the bulldozer driver's goal to target Americans.
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henank Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:10 AM
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13. What utter BS
Gaza bomb kills 3 Americans
(note - this was not "collateral damage". This bomb was aimed at an American diplomatic convoy).

Achille Lauro hijacking

Not to mention the bombing of the US army barracks in Beirut, the USS Cole, etc. (though you may claim these were Al Qaeda and/or Hezbollah).
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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:37 AM
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15. (all funded by the same sources...peas in a pod and all) nt
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