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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:54 AM Original message |
32 Palestinians killed, 5 IDF soldiers hurt in Gaza |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:59 AM Response to Original message |
1. IDF bravery on display -- taking out the women and children too |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 08:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Here's some info from B'Tselem on Israel's attacks on Gaza... |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 09:35 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. That srticle has the usual ME polemics |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 09:44 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Huh? I think you have it backwards. if Hamas wont' stop the rockets, the IDF will destroy |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. So a sane government would try to protect its people |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Interesting reaction. When we see an article about someone in Israel "scared" by a kassam that |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Didn't you get the memo? Israeli lives are inherently more valuable. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Deleted message |
Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. . |
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Englander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. The message in this edited post was "you do". |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. My response would have been "when" but then those charges are never backed up. nt |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 01:10 AM Response to Reply #26 |
80. I just want to comment on the deleted post... |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. I have plenty of sympathy of the dead Palestinians |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. My point was that the destruction we're witnessing is not intended to motivate civilians. |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Yes it it... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Unmistakeable? Like in Lebanon? |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. I think you posted this to the wrong person |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #16 |
31. unfortunately no |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
39. A day does not go by anymore |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Yeah, but yr not sick of seeing pro-Palestinian posters being accused of bigotry and racism... |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #47 |
86. I think your mistaken |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Assuming you are right, what does Israel expect them to do? |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Hamas "election" was fuzzy, but their armed removal of Fatah was not |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. You are factually incorrect and speaking utter nonsense. |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Actually there are very different views of that |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Utter fabrication. Back up your nonsense with a credible link. nt |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:20 PM Response to Reply #29 |
52. I wonder how long you will be waiting. nt |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #52 |
84. don't hold your breath nt |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. Yawn. nt |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 09:03 PM Response to Reply #13 |
46. Nothing like a bit of motivational killing to send the message! |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #46 |
85. motivational recruitment videos |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. Israel's actions are all the recruitment tools needed. nt |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #89 |
92. Bullshit |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. No, what you are seeing is a classic terror operation |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Dump Hamas how? Israel has destroyed the electoral process in Palestine! nt |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #18 |
34. It's funny. The US wanted to spread democracy and they did. And when it didn't go their way, they |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #18 |
44. Are the Palestinians responsible for **anything**? |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. According to some here they're responsible for **everything**... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. And there are some who don't think they are to blame for a damn thing. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. PM didn't say the Palestinians aren't to be blamed for anything... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:11 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. You shouldn't interject into conversations where you do not know the history. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. You should stop trying to be such a bossy boots...I go on what I read here... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Facts don't seem to be your friend anyway. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Sometimes they're not, but facts are facts... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Lead by example. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. I manage fine, so the 'You First!' line doesn't work n/t |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. You're funny BTA. Are we to pretend that Israel and the US didn't overturn the results of the |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. And you're anything but funny. |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 07:24 AM Response to Reply #55 |
81. Can you say with a straight face, that the action undertaken by the US and Israel |
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eyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 09:22 AM Response to Reply #81 |
90. No |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #90 |
91. There is a separate set of rules for Israel |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
36. Hamas wanted a war |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
3. You can watch the Sho'ah live on Al Jazeerah. nt |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
14. Israeli-Palestinian Clashes Kill 45 |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. "Massacre" is the appropriate term |
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pegleg (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
25. It all boils down to stopping the rocket attacks. If those stop |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. No one really seems to want Gaza or care for its residents |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
28. On CNN's front page the headline is 45 dead, 50 wounded in Gaza but the image shown is an Israeli |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. 52 dead. 17 children. Certainly a proud day for the valiant IDF. |
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Purveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Is it just me or does it really seem like nearly every year around this time the israelis |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:14 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. It's just you |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Agreed - it is pretty much a year round thing |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #32 |
51. One-third dead are children. I hope the citizens of Israel will sleep more safely tonight. nt |
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Purveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Had Israeli civilian casulties been reported, Faux news would be going with wall-to-wall coverage |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. It is being reported on extensively everywhere - including Fox News |
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Purveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 07:21 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. I said in my post that it is indeed being reported here on the net however I was referring |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. I agree |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Agreed, given that Israel is currently shooting everything that moves |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Perhaps you should read more. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Is Israel responsible for **anything**? n/t |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. Keep your day job, comedian, you ain't. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:09 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. I wasn't trying to be funny...n/t |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Well, it worked. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:23 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. It did. I made the correct assumption that you've got no sense of humour... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Nope, then again that doesn't stop you from claiming it as "fact." |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. I just go on what I read and I didn't claim it as a fact n/t |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:29 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. Do you have any problem whatsoever with the current massacre of Gazans? |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Do you have a problem with acknowledging what I posted was true? |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:56 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. I've no problem with truth, now answer the question |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:59 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. You first. |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Yes I have a problem with censorship of media. |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Thank you. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. Then how come you only complain about the deaths of Israelis, not Palestinians? n/t |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. I have "complained" about both. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. No you haven't n/t |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. See, a new "fact." |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 11:37 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Huh? I didn't say anything about facts... |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 10:26 PM Response to Reply #38 |
53. Nice try, except elsewhere during that same article, they did post pictures of Palestinain wounded. |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #53 |
83. you need to visit al Jazeera for the real unbiased opinions |
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breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. self delete. |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-01-08 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
40. In pictures: Middle East violence: |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-02-08 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
82. so, in other words, of the 32, killed, 10 were sheilds and 22 were ligitimate targets ? |
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