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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 10:46 PM Original message |
Defense officials seek to forcefully block boats protesting Gaza seige |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
1. So lets get this straight |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 09:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. They have no legal standing to limit access to Gaza. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. "Seek to forcefully block" was a creation of Ha'aretz |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 10:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Ok, how about this: |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Take it up with Amos Harel |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 07:38 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Well, I took it up with Azurnoir, but you wanted to talk about it. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 07:48 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. That was meant to be humorous |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 08:21 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Yeah, OK. Humor is tricky on the internet, as we all know. nt |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Actually I have been paying attention |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Aw shucks. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-19-08 06:20 AM Response to Original message |
11. Israel warns activists against breaking Gaza blockade |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-19-08 06:40 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. How does this ending the blockade help the good people of Gaza? |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-19-08 07:22 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. How has anything that Hamas has done |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-20-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
14. Boats in Cyprus pass inspection for Gaza protest |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-22-08 06:01 AM Response to Original message |
15. Protest boats leave Cyprus for Gaza |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-22-08 06:51 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Is Hedy Epstein not on board? |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-22-08 08:16 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. i read she's not a holocaust survivor... |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-22-08 09:25 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Be that as it may, the press reports identified her as such |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-22-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. She stayed in Cyprus: |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-22-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Thanks for the info |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-22-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. I think the Israelis will back off and let them do their thing. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-22-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I would say there is almost no chance of that happening |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 08:28 AM Response to Reply #21 |
37. Looks like your prediction was correct |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-22-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. naming the boat the "liberty"....is a nice swipe at israel.... |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-22-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. They should have named it the "Introdus" nt |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-22-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. or perhaps.. |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-22-08 07:14 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Little sensitive about that shameful incident, huh, Pelsar? |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-22-08 08:26 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Seems odd that this group would want to affiliate themselves with such far right-wing individuals |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 05:57 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. not so much as sensitive as placing it in the proper perspective.... |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 07:49 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Good points |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-22-08 11:38 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. The Exodus 2 ??? lol n/t |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 02:37 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. This bothers me too. |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #31 |
44. American xenophobic? |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. What is the relationship between the Liberty incident and the Palestinians in Gaza? |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 02:53 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. No, it's what it's called when you bring it into something unrelated. |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 07:47 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. A group of brave civilians defies threats of the IDF and employs amazing creative non-violence |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 08:10 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. It's not the names of the ships; it's the possible link with right-wing groups |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 09:16 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. OK, I did have a look at the list of endorsers... |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 09:59 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. I do hope Behind the Aegis reads your findings. nt |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. I read them, and? |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Seems like LB "got it." I thought BTA might as well. No biggie. nt |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #57 |
88. Seems PM doesn't "get it." No surprise. nt. |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. Oh talk about irony n/t |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #64 |
89. Do you know what irony is? n/t |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. I don't see why him in particular? |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. Further research *has* come up with something a bit worrying... |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. I wasn't aware that Ron Paul was a demon. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Ron Paul would have no problem letting thousands of people die of lack of medical care |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #47 |
53. its not an isolated connection... |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. I see nothing stupid about naming one of the ships "Liberty." |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Only one of many "diversions" |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 04:21 PM Response to Reply #61 |
73. On a previous thread... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #73 |
102. I am hardly "fond" of the right |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. Not in my case... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. I did not mean you |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Simple question for you |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. I don't know about you, but when I think about Israel and the "high seas" Liberty comes to mind! nt |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. i'm not surprised.....your inability to understand the otherside... |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. You don't think your focus on the ship's name is an attempt to divert attention from the MISSION? |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Mission accomplished pelsar. You and yours managed to ensure that the lion's share of |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. I didnt name the ship....i just caught their intent (blaming the messenger?) |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #74 |
85. I would argue that the internationals have injected the only creative thinking in this conflict in |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. In any case, I'm done with this absurd tangent. |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 03:29 AM Response to Reply #85 |
92. to you its petty...i get that... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #69 |
103. Don't despair |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-26-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #103 |
109. personally i have no problem with their "imports"... |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-26-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. I have long been in favor of Israel cutting them off completely |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #66 |
78. One could say that the Liberty campaigners latching onto this group at all |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. the liberty group....can do what they want... |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Which means that their diversion was unfortunately to some degree successful |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. you let them off to easy... |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #58 |
79. in principle they can name their ships whatever they want.... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-22-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. It says much about them and others like them. |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #27 |
39. almost as much as |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. and those who need to trash Israel as a hobby.... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Jeebus dude |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 02:55 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Well possibly |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #32 |
41. well according to pelsar's post |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. I fully agree! |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 06:08 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. the boat was named- for the incident.... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. well okay then |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #34 |
51. I guess the crime of naming the boat something that may be uncomfortable for Israelis |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 10:23 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. It's not the name as such- it's that it can give the impression of a link to RW groups. |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. As if some right-wing group glomming on to a just cause would be the most important feature of this |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. It is not some right wing group glomming on to a just cause |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. Are you a "Liberty" denier, Oberliner? |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. I don't know what that means |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #65 |
75. I am now wondering if you are making some kind of twisted reference to Holocaust Denial |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 07:43 AM Response to Reply #59 |
96. No offense, oberliner, but I'm finding this just a tad galling... |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 09:18 AM Response to Reply #96 |
99. ???? |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #96 |
108. In response |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #56 |
72. I don't know that it's exactly a question of my 'seeing the light' |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. Very often, the Israel haters |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #76 |
90. LOL David Duke that old chesnut again |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 03:23 AM Response to Reply #90 |
91. The fact is... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #91 |
101. Thanks but I am well aware of |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 06:44 AM Response to Reply #90 |
95. Since when do you advocate equality for all? |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 08:03 AM Response to Reply #95 |
98. Az has always advocated equality for all.... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #95 |
100. I always have |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-26-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #100 |
110. Deleted message |
LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. Liberty incident and the right.. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #77 |
84. Greta Berlin gave that same Phil Tourney an interview on behalf of the Free Gaza Movement |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 06:21 AM Response to Reply #84 |
94. The unanswered question here seems to be... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 08:00 AM Response to Reply #72 |
97. And that's the reason I'm finding some of the posts in this thread hard to understand... |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #97 |
104. Who are the RWers who are/were associated with One Voice? nt |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #97 |
105. Actually I think it makes perfect sense for people to check the credentials of any group.. |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #51 |
82. whats pathetic...is the constant israel bashing.... |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-24-08 08:28 PM Response to Reply #34 |
86. SO WHAT?? |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-25-08 03:50 AM Response to Reply #86 |
93. So what, is, as I said earlier, that it could imply links with RW groups. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
36. Free Gaza Movement Boat Flotilla in Need of Immediate Assistance |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-23-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. From Ha'aretz |
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