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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:10 AM
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Blair: Gaza strategy "hasn't worked" (Roundup)
Cairo - International Middle East peace envoy Tony Blair has called for 'a new strategy in Gaza,' in remarks made in Cairo on Wednesday, and admitted that the international community's approach to the Palestinian territory had not worked.

'We need a new strategy for Gaza,' Blair told reporters after meeting with Egyptian President Hosny Mubarak. 'We should learn from what happened in the past few weeks and make sure that in the future our strategy towards Gaza is different from the one we have pursued until now, because it hasn't worked, and we need to change it.'

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/middleeast/news/article_1456275.php/Blair_Gaza_strategy_%26quothasnt_worked%26quot__Roundup__
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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:11 AM
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1. On Gaza, strategy, and tactics
Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 10:15 AM by DogPoundPup
James Fallows

Five days ago I mentioned that I did not know enough about Gaza to have a detailed or nuanced judgment about the immediate circumstances of the Israeli effort against Hamas.

But I have seen, read, reported, thought, and written enough over the years about the strategy-tactics tension in many realms, from politics to business to technology to war planning, to recognize a situation in which short-term tactical victories may lead to long-term strategic defeat. This is how the Gaza operation looked early on, and how it looks more starkly with every passing day. Gee, if only there were a popular saying that conveyed the idea that you could win many battles and still lose the war.

Now someone who knows a lot about the details and nuances of Middle East conflict has stated this concern in blunt and authoritative terms. I am referring of course to Anthony Cordesman of CSIS, he of the unending flow of detailed papers on the military balance in Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, and elsewhere. Two days ago he issued an analysis called "The War in Gaza: Tactical Gains, Strategic Defeat?" In light of his argument, the question-mark in the title seems superfluous, or merely polite:

The growing human tragedy in Gaza is steadily raising more serious questions as to whether the kind of tactical gains that Israel now reports are worth the suffering involved.... This raises a question that every Israeli and its supporters now needs to ask. What is the strategic purpose behind the present fighting?

I won't quote further from his analysis, which is short enough to be read easily in its entirety and long enough to make a reasonable case. Please go see for yourself. But I will quote the way it ends:

As we have seen all too clearly from US mistakes, any leader can take a tough stand and claim that tactical gains are a meaningful victory. If this is all that Olmert, Livni, and Barak have for an answer, then they have disgraced themselves and damaged their country and their friends. If there is more, it is time to make such goals public and demonstrate how they can be achieved.

http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/01/on_gaza_strategy_and_tactics.php

On strategy and tactics http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/on_strategy_and_tactics.php

Countdown to a Meltdown http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200507/fallows

Blind Into Baghdad http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200401/fallows

The War in Gaza
Tactical Gains, Strategic Defeat? http://www.csis.org/index.php?option=com_csis_pubs&task=view&id=5188

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:25 AM
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5. But there are no "tactical gains".
There is destruction and dead people, but the position is not changed at all. It's all show, it's all bullshit.
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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:36 AM
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7. THAT was the Bush/Olmert 'strategy'
in a nutshell after all, wasn't it?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:38 AM
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8. Yep.
The Wizard of Oz comes to mind. "Where's the beef?"
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:14 AM
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2. Gee, who could have predicted this? nt
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:18 AM
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3. "an informal group including the United States, Russia, the European Union and Russia"
LOL.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:23 AM
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4. Blair as a peace envoy?
:eyes:
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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:35 AM
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6. related item: Britain tribunal orders release of Cabinet minutes on Iraq war
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:46 AM
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9. That ought to be good.
Personally, I think all public business ought to be conducted in public. The notion that politicians cannot discuss things candidly in public is fatuous. The stuff they cannot discuss in public is what they ought not be discussing at all.

:popcorn::popcorn:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 11:26 AM
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10. the idf blew up tony`s pet project.
i guess it`s time to rethink his old policies is`t it...
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 11:30 AM
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11. Yup, they blew up his new sewage plant.
The "Blair Sludge Facility".

Not that the plant was not a good thing, it was.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 12:21 PM
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12. Now he says it...
Anyone less suitable for the job than Blair would be hard to imagine.
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