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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 01:48 PM
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Abbas lays down terms for peace talks with Netanyahu
Last update - 21:42 05/04/2009

Abbas lays down terms for peace talks with Netanyahu

By Haaretz Service and The Associated Press

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas on Sunday laid down his conditions for renewing stalled peace negotiations with Israel.

The new Israeli government "would have to accept the creation of a Palestinian state, stop construction in West Bank Israeli settlements and remove army roadblocks crippling life in the West Bank so that we can resume dialogue in order to reach a political solution," Abbas said.

The Palestinian leader was speaking during a visit to Baghdad.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1076521.html
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NOW tense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 01:56 PM
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1. I think that is fair if
Edited on Sun Apr-05-09 01:56 PM by NOW tense
the UN can check shipments.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 01:56 PM
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2. Presumably you think Bibi should tell Abbas to go to hell considering he is a treasonous tool?
You have said that Abbas deserves the same fate as Saddam Hussein, so I assume you think that Netanyahu ought to disregard what Abbas is saying here and instead make overtures to negotiate directly with a Palestinian leader who isn't a despicable tool of American imperialism? Haniyeh perhaps?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 02:02 PM
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4. Abbas takes CIA money while Bibi takes our money
Our tax money goes to support the Occupation.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 03:26 PM
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5. Perhaps Barghouthi would be a better choice
wouldn't you think? But in working or not with what we have now I am sure that the current Israeli government has learned the reward of smiling nodding and talking while building and or attacking
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 05:49 PM
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7. Why not address the contents of the OP rather than another posters past comments?
Do you agree with what Abbas has said? If not, why not?
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 07:21 PM
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8. I think Abbas is the legitimate representative of the PA and the person Bibi should talk to
I think Abbas presents a very reasonable position here.

Not really sure that I have anything particularly interesting to add to the OP other than to ask those who do not feel that Abbas is legitimate and, in fact, have called for him to be charged with treason, whether or not they think Netanyahu should deal with him.

I am curious to know who the Israelis are supposed to negotiate with if not Abbas.

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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 07:28 PM
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9. Yr making the assumption that the Israeli govt is interested in negotiating...
It's very clear that they're not interested in negotiating a peaceful and fair resolution to the conflict that results in two viable and independent states living side by side.

I'm also noticing a contrast from this thread where you immediately bring another posters comments from other threads into it, with yr refusal to do the same to a pro-Israel poster in another current thread where you insist on only focusing on the words in the post that was being responded to...
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 07:33 PM
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10. I agree with you
It is very troubling. I am very much unhappy with the current Israeli governing coalition.

Regarding your other point, some topics interest me more than others. I am curious to understand how folks who view Abbas as illegitimate would want the Israeli government to proceed with negotiations should they be interested in doing so.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 07:38 PM
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11. Yeah, I've noticed that some topics interest you more than others...
Clearly it must be that pro-Israeli posters that repeatedly slew to the right in regards to the conflict isn't something that interests you, though I find that strange considering you are interested if it's pro-Palestinian posters doing the same :)
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 08:03 PM
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12. Well it doesn't seem like anyone else takes an interest in what interests me
Or at least not very many folks here. Or at least that is how it feels sometimes.

Whereas the other situation you described is usually dealt with by a pretty fair number of other posters.
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Sezu Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 08:44 PM
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14. WHY is it "very clear?" I keep hearing this but no one
ever seems to back it up with anything tangible other than personal opinion and innuendo; a nudge and a wink. Why don't you correct that gap now?
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 08:48 PM
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15. You could just go and read the threads here....
Or you could attempt to prove me wrong by linking to any statement by Nutty that gives any indication he's the slightest bit interested in negotiating a fair and peaceful resolution to the conflict that involves two independent and viable states living side by side. I suspect you won't want to do either thing I suggested, but I do like being surprised and you may prove me wrong...
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 01:57 PM
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3. While I doubt it'll ever be met...
A toast to the Palestinian leadership for actually making conditions, rather than just knuckling under whatever the Israelis offer.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 04:42 PM
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6. When have they ever 'just knuckled down'?
But actually I *do* respect them for making clear-cut and definite conditions, instead of fudging the issue or refusing to negotiate at all. That's a promising sign. We shall see.
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Sezu Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 08:29 PM
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13. Trouble is you don't see them making clear cut and definite
statements about fulfilling their obligations according to the processes that have been ongoing.
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