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quilp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 05:09 PM
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Is this just Palestinian propaganda?
An Palestinian Arab claimed that an Israeli-Jew can sell land to an Israeli-Jew. An Arab can sell land to an Arab. An Arab can sell land to an Israeli-Jew. But no Israeli-Jew can sell land to an Arab. Is this the case? He also didn't make clear whether this was a matter of individual Israeli choice or Israeli law.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 05:14 PM
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1. Not true...
It can be quite a bit harder for an Arab to buy land from an Israeli Jew than it is for an Israeli Jew to buy land from an Israeli Jew, but it is not against the law.
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quilp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 05:27 PM
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3. In what way is it "quite a bit harder"?
Why should it be in any way more difficult?
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 05:33 PM
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4. I believe that there are certain restrictions...
However, I'm not sure.
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 07:01 PM
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11. Well, is it not true or are you not sure?
They are quite different answers.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 05:21 PM
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2. It actually is true.
De facto illegal. Palestinians who do not obtain "licenses" for their homes have them bulldozed. International Solidarity Members who attempt to save such homes from being bulldozed get bulldozed as well.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 05:34 PM
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5. That is not the same...
Waht evidence can you bring up that it is illegal?
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 05:47 PM
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6. The daily news?
Evidence of this is everywhere. You can't be serious.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 05:48 PM
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7. You misunderstood me...
I am not talking about bulldozed homes-and neither is the poster of this thread. The discussion is about an Israeli Arab buying land from an Israeli Jew.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 05:48 PM
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8. The IDF has more guns, bought with US dollars

That makes anything they want to do legal.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 05:49 PM
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9. See post #7...
n/t
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vierundzwanzig Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 06:56 PM
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10. Maybe just a commentary
... which relates to one of the responses in the thread:

The vast majority of land in Israel and the annexed territories is held by the Israeli government who will only sell or lease to Israeli Jews.

Arab Israelis may own certain pockets of Israeli land. It is quite common that these Arabs have to wade through heaps of paperwork only to eventually be denied the construction of a home. (re: http://www.rebuildinghomes.org)

It seems more important what happens de facto than de jure.

But I have heard similar statements as the one you put.

You might want to refer to http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1991to_now_israel_land.php
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StandWatie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 07:08 PM
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12. it's not true, but..
You have to understand a few things:

#1 After 1948 90% of the land got swallowed up by the Jewish National Fund including land that Arab Palestinians that hadn't fled far enough to actually wind up in Jordon or Lebanon or Egypt but did leave their houses (it was suicidal not to) using a very liberal and handy definition of "refugee".

#2 This fund is ran by Israel for it's own ends and tend to embrace policies which will make Arab Palestinian's lives uncomfortable and make them wish to emigrate.

In conclusion, there are some social pressures about selling land to Israeli Jews or Palestinian Arabs respectively by peer group but they aren't encoded in law, they don't have to be, because there is so little privately owned land in Israel.
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 07:22 PM
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13. Locking
Per I/P Guidelines:

New threads must be based on a recently-published news item or op-ed piece. Citations and references should include a link to the original source. Exceptions will be allowed if the moderators feel a thread is appropriate.

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