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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 08:59 AM
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Hamas children's TV program again calls for the 'slaughter of Jews'
A popular Hamas children's program that usually gives advice to youngsters, such as instructing them to listen to their parents, aired a call for the "slaughter" of Jews in Israel late last month, according to Palestinian Media Watch.

All Jews must be "erased from our land," Nassur, a stuffed bear who hosts the weekly program, Tomorrow's Pioneers, on Hamas's Al-Aksa television, explained to a child who called in to a September 22 show. "We want to slaughter them, Saraa, so they will be expelled from our land... we'll have to by slaughter."

Nan Jacques Zilberdik, an analyst at Palestinian Media Watch, which translated the program and regularly monitors Palestinian media, said Tomorrow's Pioneers, which comes out of the Gaza Strip, is available via satellite around the world. The program often blends pragmatic advice with hate, she said.

"Generally the program also transmits good messages to kids like drinking milk or asking parents permission to do something, but we also find these very problematic messages like the call to kill Jews," she said.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1254393089602&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 09:36 AM
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1. Wanna See Something Mind Blowing?
Check out the Hamas Founding Charter, which has never been renounced by Hamas. Everytime I post it verbatim on DU it gets removed (which I don't understand since it's just a historical document), so you'll have to Google it yourself.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 12:11 PM
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3. As do the videos which show the actual DEEDS of Israel, a nation smart enough not to codify
its evil in words.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 02:14 PM
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4. Israel Has a Ways To Go
But be serious - if Israel had wanted to destroy their neighbors, they could have done so long ago.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 02:47 PM
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5. Be serious -- if Israel had any interest in peacethey would at the very least
agree to freeze settlements.

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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 05:26 PM
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6. All Israeli settlements have been withdrawn from Gaza
That step did not seem to have any peaceful repercussions.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 07:51 PM
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9. And why?
Because Hamas has no interest in peace.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 05:24 PM
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14. Yes, putting a barbed wire stranglehold around a million Gazans was a step for peace.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 05:35 PM
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17. A little revisionist history?
Edited on Mon Oct-05-09 05:36 PM by oberliner
Israeli Army Leaves Gaza

(AP) Flames shot skyward from four abandoned synagogues in the Gaza Strip on Monday, as thousands of celebrating Palestinians thronged through former Jewish settlements and headed straight for the only buildings left standing.

At Neve Dekalim, gunman from several militant factions stormed through after Israeli soldiers left Monday morning, completing the Gaza pullout. Some Palestinians planted a flag from the ruling Fatah movement on the roof of a rabbinical college for Jewish settlers, as others set a fire inside.

The synagogue in the isolated settlement of Morag in southern Gaza was set ablaze minutes after hundreds of Palestinians stormed in.

"They (Israelis) destroyed our homes and our mosques," said a man who gave his name only as Abu Ahmed. "Today it is our turn to destroy theirs."

The synagogues were a focus of Palestinian anger after 38 years of Israeli occupation, primarily because they were among the only buildings left standing. Shortly after removing the last of the settlers two weeks ago, Israel sent in bulldozers to level the houses, leaving only a few public buildings and the synagogues.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/12/world/main833999.shtml

"Now, instead of looking for an apartment and a job and security, these expectations and ambitions have increased. They are trying to get a bigger piece of the cake," says Ziad Abu Amr, a Gaza City representative to the Palestinian legislative council and author of several books on Islamic militants in Gaza. "The PA seems to be paralyzed and unable to establish the rule of law, so they figure they can get away with things and get concessions."

http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0909/p07s01-wome.html
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 05:38 PM
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19. Please, Oberliner. Don't insult the regulars here. Who didn't have this situation pegged
from the moment uncoordinatated withdrawl was bandied about?

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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 12:10 PM
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2. Drinking milk? In Gaza?
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 05:42 PM
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7. Milk distributions continue for hungry Gaza children
Edited on Sun Oct-04-09 05:43 PM by oberliner
Over the past few days, the PCRF staff in southern Gaza has provided thousands of at-risk children in the southern Gaza areas of Rafah and Khan Younis free milk in an effort to ensure that they get proper nutrition during the time of war and siege in Gaza. These distributions included not only the refugee camps and isolated villages in the south of Gaza, which were badly damaged in the war, but also the pediatric department of Nasser Hospital. Malnutrition is a serious problem in Gaza and many humanitarian organizations are working hard to help address this man-made disaster. The PCRF is also sending injured children out of Gaza this week for treatment, as well as running other humanitarian programs on the ground, including medicine distributions and a shipment of wheelchairs that will be entering Gaza soon.

http://www.pcrf.net/?p=232

PCRF is a very well-respected organization - you may want to consider making a donation.

They continue to provide milk to schoolchildren in Gaza. Since the conflict ended, they have been even more succesful in these efforts.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 05:21 PM
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13. Gazan kids don't need convincing to drink milk. It's a treat.
The whole thing is fishy.

But, Oberliner, I know it's your mission to post as much negative stuff about Palestinians that you can... since you're all about peace and a two-state solution and all.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 05:25 PM
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15. now that's the 2nd time recently i've seen that comment....about posting "as much negative stuff
...about Palestinians that you can"....since you're all about peace...etc

Ken Burch accused BTA of this and now PM.

Does the same apply to the other side who posts as much negative stuff about Israel as possible?
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 05:29 PM
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16. Do you think the Hamas video is fabricated?
And, incidentally, my mission is to reach an end to this long standing conflict and for peace to come finally to the Israeli and Palestinian people.

Hamas is one of the many forces standing in the way of that mission and I will make no apology for any posting that helps to shine light on that sometimes overlooked fact.

I cannot imagine any who calls themselves a "Progressive Muslim" not wanting to help in that cause.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 05:37 PM
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18. Seriously Oberliner... check your posts.
Seems to me your single goal is create as much antipathy as possible to Palestinians and Muslims.

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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 05:44 PM
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23. You just called the President of the PA a "cowardly quivering piece of shit" in another post
Edited on Mon Oct-05-09 05:49 PM by oberliner
Seems that you are the one generating antipathy towards Palestinians and Muslims.


"Really, Abbas is a piece of shit." - ProgressiveMuslim

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=124&topic_id=288908&mesg_id=288989
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 07:23 PM
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25. Watch the protests in the streets in the WB. Clearly, I am not alone.
I love how you "progressives" love the Palestinian quislings.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 07:30 PM
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26. I have not called any Palestinian a "piece of shit" the way you have
You used that expletive to describe the man that a sizable percentage of Palestinians currently support as their leader.

And yet you have the gall to accuse me of "creating antipathy towards Palestinians" when I post something critical of Hamas?

Absolutely ridiculous.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 08:06 PM
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27. Is there a decent person alive who doesn't think Abbas is a piece of excrement?

You think your lack of calling out Abbas is something to be proud of?
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 08:07 PM
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29. do you think that way of Hamas too?
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 08:08 PM
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30. Quit sidestepping. Did you watch the tape? Where's the call to slaughter? I'm waiting patiently..
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 08:13 PM
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34. LAST CALL!!!! Where's the call to slaughter in the 52 second tape?
What a bunch of BS. JPost should be ashamed.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 08:17 PM
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36. post #28
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 08:10 PM
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32. Over a million Palestinians don't seem to think so
Abbas overtakes Haniyeh in Palestinian survey

RAMALLAH, West Bank, June 9 (Reuters) - Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas's popularity rebounded in a survey released on Monday after he renewed his call for dialogue with the Hamas Islamists who control the Gaza Strip.

The poll, conducted by the Palestinian Centre for Policy and Survey Research, suggested that Abbas would win 52 percent of the vote against 40 percent for Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh if a presidential election were held in the Palestinian territories now.

http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSL09182909

Nice that you call the man who has the support of about half the Palestinian population in the West Bank and Gaza a "piece of excrement."

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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 08:11 PM
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33. I doubt a poll on October 9 will yield that result. It's unfortunate that Israel won't allow elec-
Edited on Mon Oct-05-09 08:12 PM by ProgressiveMuslim
tions... we'll never know, will we?

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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 05:40 PM
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20. Too bad you don't think the ACTUAL slaughter of civilians is as bad as the so-called video.
Kind of ironic actually.

Left hand... video...
Right hand.... 300 kids' corpses courtesy of the IDF...

Hmm.......
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 05:43 PM
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22. The clip on J-post doesn't include any call to slaughter.
did you see it? I sure didn't.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 07:50 PM
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8. Makes sense.
Hamas leaders want them to grow to be martyrs.

Sickening hate. :puke:
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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 06:59 AM
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10. I see the teaching of hate continues unabated in Gaza nt
Too bad that they don't see building their own society as more important than teaching hate and raising terrorists.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 11:20 AM
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11. Check out the Muppet link I posted elsewhere in this froum.
Edited on Mon Oct-05-09 11:21 AM by oberliner
There are some positive messages being spread to Palestinian children, just not by Hamas.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=124x289195
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 04:45 PM
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12. Yes, that is an encouraging sign; thank you for posting it.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 05:43 PM
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21. I viewed the video in the link and saw no call to slaughter. Did anyone else? nt
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 07:22 PM
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24. Crickets. Now there is a shock. nt
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 08:07 PM
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28. it's a call to slaughter
http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=1339

not slaughter the Israelis, which would include Arabs, but Jews.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 08:10 PM
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31. That's not what's linked. Even IF... is a "call to" worse than the actual slaughter?
What kind of crazy world is it where the empty words of the victims are more horrific than the ACTUAL SLAUGHTER of the perpetrators?

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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 08:16 PM
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35. Hamas only lacks the means...again, how many dead Israelis does it take to justify invading Gaza?
And how long should Hamas keep using Palestinian civilians to draw IDF fire (not deter it) before you condemn such repulsive behavior?
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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 05:32 PM
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37. I doubt the repulsive behavior will ever be condemned
Some posters think violence and resistance is just fine (and using human shields)
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 04:18 PM
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38. Human Shields, Huh
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