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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 10:59 PM
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Patsy Obama
Patsy Obama
by PHILIP WEISS on OCTOBER 31, 2009

I hear they’re crowing about this in Israel. From AP:

A top aide to Abbas, Saeb Erekat, said in a phone interview with The Associated Press that Clinton had asked Abbas to allow Israel’s government to complete building 3,000 units in Jewish settlements in the West Bank, and to allow the government to construct public buildings and continue construction in east Jerusalem — a territory Palestinians hope will be their future capital.

Clinton’s request would be a major change for the U.S. administration, which previously had demanded Israel halt all settlement building before negotiations could resume.

http://mondoweiss.net/2009/10/patsy-obama.html

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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 11:27 PM
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1. This is beyond belief. Just how much is Obama beholding to the Israel lobby?
:puke:
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 01:04 AM
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2. do not judge to quickly this is a chess game
Edited on Sun Nov-01-09 01:11 AM by azurnoir
and I would not wish to play Obama, besides Abbas flat refused the request

No movement on talks after Abbas-Clinton meeting

Peace talks will not resume based on the terms US special envoy to the Middle East George Mitchell has worked out with Israel, chief PLO negotiator Saeb Erekat announced Saturday.

President Mahmoud Abbas himself confirmed the announcement following a meeting with US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in Abu Dhabi, telling reporters there was "nothing new" in the conversation.


http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=236155

I am sure this came as every bit the "surprise" that Libya's move in the UN did concerning the Goldstone Report

So now Mitchell goes back to Bibi and says well we tried but they refused your going to have to come up with something else of course Bibi will refuse but the international pressure will increase
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 01:15 AM
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3. Point taken. Hadn't considered that angle.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 01:49 AM
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5. and here we go step 2
In Jerusalem, Clinton hails 'unprecedented' Israeli settlement concessions

Israel is making "unprecedented" concessions on West Bank settlement construction, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said on Saturday after arriving in Israel in the latest U.S. bid to renew peace talks in the region.

The Obama administration had previously demanded Israel halt all settlement building before negotiations could resume.

But speaking at a joint press conference with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Clinton said there has never been such a precondition.

"It has always been an issue with negotiations," she said. "What the Prime Minister has offered in specifics of a restraint on the policy of settlements which he has just described ? no new starts for example, is unprecedented in the context of prior to negotiations."

"It's also the fact that for forty years, Presidents of both parties have questioned the legitimacy of settlements, but I think that where we are right now is to try to get into the negotiations. The Prime Minister will be able to present his government's proposal about what they are doing regarding settlements which I think when fully explained will be seen as being not only unprecedented in response to many of the concerns that have been expressed," Clinton went on to say.

Netanyahu, for his part, said that Israel while was willing to enter into peace talks without preconditions, the other side was not.

"We think we should sit around that negotiating table right away," he said.

Clinton and Netanyahu met a few hours after Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas rejected a U.S. proposal for the renewal of peace talks. During the press conference, the secretary of state said the talks with Abbas were "very useful."

At the press conference, Clinton also touched on negotiations between Iran and world powers over the Islamic Republic's nuclear ambitions, a significant cause of concern in Israel.


http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1124825.html


this is going to be quite the dance and will take at least 2 years IMO
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excess_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 01:16 AM
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4. Obama is weak .nt
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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 02:05 PM
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6. sadly true
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