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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:29 PM
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Hezbollah snubs Arabic version of Anne Frank's diary in Lebanon
An international organization fighting against Holocaust denial condemned on Wednesday a campaign of intimidation by the militant Hezbollah group over the distribution of Anne Frank's diary in Lebanon.

The world-famous book was recently translated into Arabic and Farsi by the Paris-based Aladdin Project, which aims to spread awareness of the Holocaust and counter racism and intolerance.

The Lebanese militant group raised a fuss over the diary, the second campaign recently by Hezbollah against books it deems offensive.
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The Hezbollah-owned Al-Manar TV last week called on Lebanese judicial authorities to prosecute those responsible for the distribution of the book here, blasting its theatrical and dramatic narration in an emotional way.

Naim al-Qalaani from Hezbollah's Committee for the Boycott of Zionist Goods in Lebanon told the TV the book's distribution was a flagrant violation and a move toward normalization with Lebanon's archenemy, Israel.

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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:53 PM
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1. How surprising.....not.
Both Hezbollah and Hamas don't want the civilians (that they use and abuse) to view the Jewish people as normal humans. That might lead to peace and they don't want that.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 03:10 PM
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2. 'to counter racism and intolerance'...
Well, according to Hezbollah, obviously we can't have that!

'a move toward normalization with Lebanon's archenemy, Israel.'

Tut tut tut!!!



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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 03:44 PM
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3. Hezbollah condemns an Arabic translaation of TDAF
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 03:44 PM by azurnoir
seems odd in a way because

from the article

The diary of Anne Frank has been sold in Lebanon for years, both in English and in earlier translations into Arabic, and it was not clear why Hezbollah's TV chose to highlight its existence in the country now.

well we'll all just have to tune in to Al-Manar and find out huh?
except at least in the US you can't its blocked
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 05:02 PM
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4. Geez, BTA... thanks for making me spit diet coke all over my laptop!
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 05:11 PM by ProgressiveMuslim
Is this one of those discussions where we are required to pretend that Jewish history is completely disconnected from Israeli history?... you know the ones where when people out that Israel's military conquests have probably resulted in the population not caring about Jewish suffering in previous generations are told there should be no connection?

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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 05:45 PM
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5. Do you think The Diary of Anne Frank ought to be prevented from being distributed in Lebanon?
Do you think the distribution of that book in Lebanon ought to be against the law?
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 05:51 PM
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8. The Diary of Anne Frank is availble in Lebanon and in Arabic
and has been for years that is makes the whole thing kind of odd as was pointed out in the article
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 06:32 PM
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13. Do you think that is a good thing?
Or do you support groups that are attempting to restrict its distribution?
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 06:36 PM
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16. Say what?
No I think the book should be available, anywhere including Gaza
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:52 PM
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22. As should Mila 18. nt
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 01:54 AM
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27. by all means yes it should
and it was a good book too :hi:
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 08:31 AM
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29. I always wonder
... what lessons people like BTA think Palestinians, or poor Lebanese draw from studying the Holocaust?

IN any case, if it weren't for reading the Diary of Anne Frank, I never would have met my husband!

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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 05:47 PM
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6. No need to thank me.
I doubt it was my post that made you spew, more likely you choked on your own bile.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 05:48 PM
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7. This isn't just 'not caring', but active suppression of the information.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 05:54 PM
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9. How is it suppression the book is and has been availible
unless Hezbollah is actively pulling off of bookshelves, its an offensive commercial and little more
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 06:00 PM
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10. OK - they are advocating suppression, not actually doing it
An important distinction, as I doubt that Hezbollah would in fact have serious power to suppress a book in Lebanon right at the moment. Still, they obviously object to the book being made available at all.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 06:18 PM
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11. Do you see a parallel in thinking in the way Israeli authorities wish to exclude Nakba info
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 06:20 PM by ProgressiveMuslim
from their history studies?

What I hate about these OPs is the faux incomprehension.

Seriously. Do you honestly think after what Israel has done to Southern Lebanon, that Hezbollah is going to want to widely distribute books like Anne Frank's diary?

Am I shocked that the gov't of Israel will exclude Nakbah narratives in its telling of the events of the 1940s? Of course not.

Do I agree with those decisions? Of course not. My own journey to being a pro-Palestinian activist began with Anne Frank, as a matter of fact.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 06:34 PM
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15. Does Israel suppress the distribution of books about it?
If so, I would join you in opposing that.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 06:43 PM
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17. Wasn't there a recent OP about the supression of info in textbooks? That has even worse
repercussions, IMO.
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Alamuti Lotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 07:25 PM
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18. Yes, and actively fights the mere reference of the Nakba
Since in their wonderland version of history it was a great time and not a monumental tragedy.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 07:35 PM
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19. That is completely false
There are countless books available in the subject in Israel.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:51 PM
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21. True. The Israeli gov't is still very involved in limiting knowledge of the subject.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 01:38 AM
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25. No, it wasn't. Yr replying to something they didn't say...
The Israeli govt has indeed removed sections from Israeli textbooks that refer to the Nakba, which is what the poster you replied to said. You appear to be replying to some imaginary post that said 'There are no books at all in Israel about the Nakba as they've all been removed from distribution'. Until a post that says that appears in this thread, maybe you should hold yr prebuilt response in reserve and not use it on a post that was saying something completely different?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 06:21 PM
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12. Why would someone post an article like the OP in this forum?
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 06:33 PM
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14. My thoughts exactly
A post like this ought to be in GD.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:49 PM
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20. BTA thinks I/P is an "antisemtism" forum. That's why.
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 08:51 PM by ProgressiveMuslim
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 11:40 PM
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23. Why don't you stick to speaking for yourself.
You really suck pretending to know what I think. BTW, the OP isn't about anti-Semitism. Talk about having no clue.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 11:47 PM
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24. hmmm....
IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-29-09 10:43 PM
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13. Since these religious wackos are of the same mold as the evil settlers
it sure belongs in this forum.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=124&topic_id=291765&mesg_id=291899

Actually, Djinn has the better answer:

Djinn (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-01-09 09:55 PM
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21. try posting ANYTHING
Edited on Sun Nov-01-09 09:55 PM by Djinn
with the words "Israel" or "Palestine" in it - even if it's got zilch to do with the "conflict" anywhere other than the I/P dungeon and see how fast it gets pulled.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=124&topic_id=291765&mesg_id=292206

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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 01:46 AM
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26. I think Indy may have been sarcastic...at least I hope so...
Edited on Thu Nov-05-09 01:56 AM by Violet_Crumble
fwiw, if I find an article that isn't directly related to the I/P conflict, but is more about the Middle East in general, or Antisemitism or Islamophobia, I'm going to post them here in the I/P forum and if the mods feel the urge they can move them elsewhere. But what I've found over time is that something posted in the I/P forum is likely to get less of the extreme in either direction sort of responses and won't sink like a rock amongst all the balloon boy/Britney/whatever else pop culture wise is going on threads in the big forums...

On the OP itself - It's no surprise that Hezbollah would advocate banning this book. Not sure why they've chosen now to kick up a stink when it's been available in Lebanon for years, nor what they find offensive about it, but I'd be much more shocked if they'd announced they were going to help print and distribute it to schools coz that would be really out of character. Hopefully the Lebanese govt will never ban it and kids will continue to read it and get an understanding about how other kids suffered during the Holocaust....
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 03:35 AM
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28. I'm certain that the motivation is the same as those who
post some report about an Israeli tourist being injured in a third country and whine about any post that suggests that Israel is less than purely holy. Or post about some Israel-native scientist whose collaborative research at U of Chicago seems useful. The supremacists have carte blanche here.
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Vegasaurus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 07:52 AM
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30. Surely you did not mean to use the word "supremacists", did you?
That was some slight slip of tongue, or keyboard?
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