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Mosby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 11:42 AM Original message |
Palestine 'may abandon two-state solution'-- Dr.Erekat says. |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
1. The one-state solution is inevitable, but |
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Mosby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. The one state "solution" is never going to happen |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. There is some truth to it being a negotiating tactic, |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Building more and more settlements(almost all of which are illegal) |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 03:33 PM Original message |
will you please just stop it...you simply have no idea what your talking about... |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
15. They don't do what they do out ot antisemitism |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Wow! That's lots of straw you got there. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. No straw. You were implying a position that Palestinians don't take |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:34 PM Response to Reply #24 |
43. PLENTY of straw! You were implying a position pelsar (and otehrs) took (take), but didn't (don't). |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 12:17 AM Response to Reply #15 |
54. huh?...where did that come from? anti semitism?....from outerspace? |
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bstender (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 02:26 AM Response to Reply #2 |
69. i think it will |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 12:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. The one-state solution is at present impossible.. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. It's definately being used as a tactic... |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
28. The two-state solution at present is also impossible; we're left with one-state apartheid |
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Mosby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #28 |
42. It's unlikely right now because the Palestinian leadership |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 10:46 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. That makes it sound like Nutty is champing at the bit to arrive at a viable two-state solution... |
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Mosby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 11:42 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Netanyahu said he would negotiate. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 12:43 AM Response to Reply #51 |
56. What's he supposed to be wanting to negotiate? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 06:49 AM Response to Reply #4 |
72. How many states are there now? One |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 07:16 AM Response to Reply #72 |
76. There are lots of states there now |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:24 AM Response to Reply #76 |
84. Sigh |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 02:26 PM Response to Reply #84 |
91. There is not a "one-state solution" - the fact that there is no Palestinian state is the problem |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
6. Yet again.... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 03:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. That's not what was said in the article... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. It wasn't a quote from the article, nor did I claim it was. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 03:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Where's the quote from, then? n/t |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. It's called an "irony quote." |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. But who are you quoting? |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 03:35 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. I am not quoting anyone, which is why it is called an "irony" quote. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I added a bit to my post as you were answering, bta... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Doesn't change my response. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Fair enough n/t |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. It's also an irony quote because, ironically, it has nothing to do with ANYTHING |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Says the creator of strawmen. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. You've slandered me every time you've made that accusation |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
44. It isn't "slander." Look it up. |
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Kurska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
11. Everyone knows the death of the two state solution would result in mass violence. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. If you want the two-state solution to live, tell the Israeli government |
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Kurska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. I am the strongest supporter of Palestinians getting their own state as it is possible |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. As soon as it's possible and when will that be? |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. that's a good question for you too....should Israel unilaterally withdraw now from the W.Bank? |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. Only if they don't want a one state solution. |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 11:53 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. and if the W.Bank turns into Gaza, so be it? |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #52 |
63. They could always maintain a military presence, but get rid of the settlements. |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #40 |
62. Depends on what the Palestinians decide |
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IDFbunny (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 07:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
110. You also support Taiwans' independence? |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
31. How can you say that with a straight face, when Israel refuses the SLIGHTEST compromise, |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 05:24 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Israel removed every settler and settlement from Gaza |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
26. War without end. While the Palestinians proudly pout, the Israeli mouse eats the cheese. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Calling the Palestinian people fools is as bad as the poster who called Israelis cowards... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
66. I have been watching this conflict since the early 50s. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 06:57 AM Response to Reply #66 |
74. I don't care how long you've been watching it for. What you said was a nasty generalisation... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 03:11 PM Response to Reply #66 |
97. Reality speaks for itself. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 05:07 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. There is no justification for Israel to get a single inch of the West Bank |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. What about East Jerusalem? The Jewish Quarter? |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:18 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. where the Shepherd Hotel stands? |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:51 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Do you seriously not know what the Jewish Quarter is? |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:40 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. I was asking what you consider to be the Jewish Quarter n/t |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 09:14 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Your statement is baffling to me |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 12:09 AM Response to Reply #46 |
53. nice map however didn't there used to a Moroccan Quarter |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:59 AM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Here is another map that may help you further |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Your dodging my question I do not need another map n/t |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. I am not dodging any question |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 12:31 AM Response to Reply #29 |
55. i find you posts fascinating in an imaginative way....no basis in fact yet.... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:53 PM Response to Reply #29 |
67. The 1994 compromise was a big step. A Palestinian needs to |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. What compromise have they not made? What hoop have they not jumpted through? |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
64. The Native Americans did a pretty good job of "pouting themselves |
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IDFbunny (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 07:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
111. Why is three state never given consideration? |
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excess_3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
34. Palestine declared independence in 1988 |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Where are you heading with this? That Palestine is a sovereign state? |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
37. Erekat is very correct in assement |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. how does expansion within settlement blocs encroach on any more territory since 1994? |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 01:33 PM Response to Reply #41 |
61. So the settlement blocs will only be expanding upwards? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
68. The point of the expansion is to have something to trade in |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
47. Israel never adopted it |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
48. Makes sense to me. Pretty much stating the obvious IMHO. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:17 AM Response to Original message |
57. One state is endless war. |
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bstender (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 02:40 AM Response to Reply #57 |
70. no |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 04:58 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. not gonna happen |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 06:52 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. *shrug* it worked in the past |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 07:14 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. When was this? nt |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 07:19 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Surely yr not going to try to pretend there was never a time where there was little friction? n/t |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 08:20 AM Response to Reply #75 |
78. From about 800 to about 1900 in our calendar |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 09:58 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. They were living under a colonial dictatorship with little to no civil rights |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Andalus and Oxiana |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:00 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Well at least now I know you are just joking around! |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Umm... no. Look up "Andalus" |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Wow - you weren't joking |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. OK, I'll humor you |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Seriously inconceivable to me that you are asking this in earnest |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. That's a bit nasty and hypocritical of you, Obie... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. I'm not asking, I'm calling his bluff |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #96 |
100. I would respectfully encourage to read the books suggested below |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. WTF are you talking about? |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. I can suggest some books that might help you get more informed |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. ROTFL |
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IDFbunny (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #86 |
112. You read the Disnified version of al Andalus |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 02:26 PM Response to Reply #79 |
92. Yet again, yr incorrect... |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #92 |
99. "You are" can be contracted as "you're" |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:13 AM Response to Reply #99 |
102. Yes, and you could also try addressing the topic for a change... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #73 |
87. so what? this isn't then. it's now. and sorry, but the Jews lived as second class citizens. |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #73 |
113. Excuse me? |
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bstender (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 10:56 AM Response to Reply #71 |
81. daft? |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #81 |
88. No. Zionism is not a religious ideology. |
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bstender (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #88 |
103. reply |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. its easy to see where your confused.... |
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bstender (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 04:07 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. i already acknowledged |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 05:38 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. zionism above all was practical... |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #103 |
108. Answer |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 12:58 PM Response to Reply #81 |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #81 |
94. No, it was good old 19th-century "liberal" nationalism |
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bstender (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #94 |
104. interesting |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 02:29 PM Response to Reply #94 |
106. is reading history books so difficult these days? |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
60. delete wrong place |
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