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Herschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 10:36 AM
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Senate Finance Committee to probe Ford’s link with anti-Israel hate groups
— “Questions raised about the Ford Foundation and terrorist front organizations obviously must be answered,” said Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa), chairman of the Senate Finance Committee.
The committee, Grassley said, “will be reviewing the matter to determine if the tax code is properly structured to penalize tax-exempt foundations for making such donations.”

Grassley’s announcement came in response to a formal request by Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) for an investigation of Ford, part of a growing chorus of voices on Capitol Hill calling for increased scrutiny of the Ford Foundation’s funding practices.

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The senator cited reports published by JTA and picked up by newspapers around the country that “describe how the Ford Foundation gave millions of dollars to dozens of Palestinian organizations that have been in the forefront of the anti-Semitic and anti-Israel campaign that is ongoing around the world.”

Santorum said he would ask Grassley to direct the Finance Committee to “look into this more deeply and again review the controls we have in place for foundation activities and grants overseas.”

The JTA investigation, published a month ago, did not identify any instances of Ford monies being linked to terrorism. But it described Ford’s extensive funding of Palestinian groups that turned the 2001 U.N. World Conference Against Racism in Durban, South Africa, into a focused indictment of Israel as an illegitimate apartheid, colonial and genocidal regime, with invective that many observers felt crossed the line into anti-Semitism.

Ford officials refused to answer any questions regarding the activities of specific Palestinian groups or their use of Ford funds.

The Congressional response to the revelations about Ford was spearheaded by Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.), who obtained the signature of 20 colleagues on a petition demanding that Ford halt its funding of such groups and observe U.S. government funding guidelines designed to stop charitable donations to the Middle East from ending up in terrorist hands

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http://www.jta.org/page_view_story.asp?intarticleid=13456&intcategoryid=3

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It is fortunate that we can depend on bi-partisan support for Israel and opposition to those groups that mean to bring harm to her.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 10:42 AM
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1. So now they try to link anti-Zionism with TERRORISM?
And they're threatening to use the PATRIOT Act against these people?
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 10:48 AM
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2. Oh
my...:crazy:
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rini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 11:32 AM
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8. My goodness
we all know there is no such thing as anti-zionist terrorism. How dare they!
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 11:43 AM
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10. No, rini, that is not at all what I meant...
Cut out all the propaganda from the piece - a hard thing, admittedly. The only thing there's evidence of is that the Ford Foundation gave money to pro-Palestinian and anti-Zionist groups, many of which participated in the Durban rallies. I do not see the connection to terrorism. There was no terrorism at Durban.

There are reasons why I'm against the PATRIOT act, and such connections for propaganda purposes is one of them.


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rini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 02:27 PM
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21. Actually
I am against the Patriot Act also and have written all my so called elected officials about it.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 02:58 PM
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23. I never said that you were for it.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 10:55 AM
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3. OK, but the committee should also investigate alleged ties between
Israeli agencies and terrorist organizations.
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rini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 11:30 AM
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7. name one please, with documentation
Al quida: No
Islamic jihad: no
Fatah: no
Hammas: no
Syria: no
Iran: no


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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 11:48 AM
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11. I'm not sure of your intent but allegations have been made.
The web is filled with conspiracy sites blaming Muslim groups for various deeds and Israel for other deeds. Whether the claims are valid or not is immaterial, they are allegations

The Liberty incident is one such allegation that supposedly LBJ squelched. If the attack by Israeli aircraft against a US ship in international waters was deliberate, then that was an act of terrorism by today's broad definition of the term.
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rini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 02:34 PM
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22. I made no allegations
I did list several known and well documanted terrorist groups with whom Israel has no dealings. You, on the other hand made no substantial posting regarding the subject. You did manage however, to bring up a ludicus and disproved theory that is being sponsered by a man slightly to the right of Ghenkis Khan. I refuse to say left because I will not surrender a liberal point of view to right wingers.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 03:48 PM
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24. I don't care whether you "surrender a point of view" however I am
not a ring winger.

I believe the right wing neo-con point of view espoused by AWOL and his advisors is pro Israel and Bush's administration like others in the past is resisting an investigation of the Liberty incident.

I believe the Liberty incident should be investigated. From your reply I conclude that you prefer to whitewash the incident. :shrug:
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 06:15 PM
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25. ZOA
yes!
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MikeGalos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 11:00 AM
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4. Gee
The Ford Foundation linked to anti-Semitism? Henry Ford would be so proud!

(For those of you who don't know, Henry Senior was a rabid anti-Semite who spend a good part of his fortune publishing and distributing some of the most vicious Jew-hating garbage including funding and distributing the English language translation of The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion)
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rini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 11:27 AM
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5. I believe
Ford ordered booklets of "The International Jew" to be distributed in every Ford showroom. He later made sure the articles were collected and bound into booklets, which were then circulated across the country to virtually every major library.
In 1927, Ford finally had to cease publication and issue an apology to the American Jewish Committee.

In the written statement, Ford claimed to have been unaware of the anti-semitic nature of his newspaper. What nobody knew at the time was Henry Ford never wrote that apology. He didn't even sign it. It was just part of a negotiated settlement for a libel lawsuit. The Dearborn Independent had accused a prominent labor organizer of being part of a conspiracy of "Jewish bankers" to seize control of national wheat production and turn it over to the Communists. The organizer filed a $1 million libel suit against Ford.

So today's little mess is simply a continuation of an old family tradition. Called "do and deny."




http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/business/henry-ford/
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 11:29 AM
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6. OMG !!!!! *THE* MIKE GALOS ??
Edited on Sat Nov-15-03 11:30 AM by drdon326


DO MY EYES DECIEVE ME??

LOL
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MikeGalos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 11:41 AM
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9. Yep
Saw the news story about two synagogues simutaneously attacked in Turkey during Shabbat Morning prayers and wanted to see how quickly it would be announced here that it "really wasn't anti-Semitic".

The answer is very, very quickly.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:00 PM
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12. Dude...
of course it wasnt anti-semitic....it was just a big
misunderstanding. :eyes:

Glad your back,buddy.

Youre still a legend here.

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MikeGalos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:05 PM
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13. Actually, my favorite was
that is was coincidental, simultaneous gas main explosions that just happened to only occur right in front of two synogogues miles apart during prayers.

That one really should go down in the book of amazing rationalizations.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:09 PM
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14. Not really....
Edited on Sat Nov-15-03 12:13 PM by drdon326


you haven't seen anything yet. lol

Brace yourself.
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MikeGalos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:15 PM
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16. Oh,
I braced myself before coming in at all.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:19 PM
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17. lol
:toast::toast::toast::toast::toast::toast:
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 01:56 PM
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20. Let me take this opportunity...
to welcome you back as well. You've been missed.
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Cato1 Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:29 PM
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18. Why do you think...
Edited on Sat Nov-15-03 12:32 PM by Cato1
...Rick Santorum is railing against the Ford Foundation? Hopefully you are not naive enough to think he's doing this to oppose "anti-semitism". The fact is that the Ford Foundation is among the most progressive big foundations around. They generously fund family planning and ethnic studies among other things. The foundation is one of the favorite bogey men of the radical right.
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 06:33 PM
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26. Hi Mike, it is always great to see you here!
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ex_jew Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:10 PM
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15. Nice to see Herschel applauding Rick Santorum
He's my personal hero also !

But seriously, the message I hear from Israelis is that they want Americans to help moderate the Zealots and find a way to resolve the situation. Helping to make sure that no one in America would even dream of supporting efforts critical of Israel is NOT productive. Labeling the Ford Foundation as some kind of uber-terrorist is exactly what they do not need.
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Cato1 Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 12:52 PM
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19. The alleged "anti-semitism"...
...of the Ford Foundation is used as a perfect excuse by the radical right-wingers in Congress to destroy this progressive foundation. How sad that otherwise left-wing congressmen like Nadler are willing to give cover to these bigots! I guess short-sighted ethnic politics is more important than the big picture to some people...

As an example, the Ford Foundation was a key funder in the battle against the anti-Hispanic Proposition 187 of California back in 1994. This and funding of many other progressive causes have earned them the hatred of the radical right.
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