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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:49 AM
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New Video Smuggled Out from Mavi Marmara of Israel’s Deadly Assault
In a Democracy Now! exclusive, we bring you a sneak preview of previously unseen raw footage from the Mavi Marmara that will be formally released at a press conference at the United Nations later in the day. The footage shows the mood and the activities onboard the Mavi Marmara in the time leading up to the attack, and the immediate reaction of the passengers during the attack. We are joined by filmmaker and activist Iara Lee, one of the few Americans on the Mavi Marmara ship. Her equipment was confiscated, but she managed to smuggle out an hour’s worth of footage.

Guest: Iara Lee, filmmaker and director of the Cultures of Resistance network that brings together artists and activists from around the world.

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/6/10/exclusive_journalist_smuggles_out_video_of

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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 11:13 AM
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1. disturbing.
Isreal should immediately release all confiscated video and photos. To do otherwise is an admission of guilt. Since they're doing otherwise....

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 01:31 PM
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2. That video may be leaked but it won't be released and this is why.
Edited on Thu Jun-10-10 01:31 PM by EFerrari
Ann Wright told Laura that when the group of passengers protecting the helm and the media center engaged the Israeli soldiers with deck chairs and pieces of deck railing, the IHH official and the captain came out and told them to stop.

If the IDF releases that, their smear of IHH goes out the window. They'll never do it.

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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 02:05 PM
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3. This video is inconclusive in all respects...
at least the portion we were able to see.

Part of the video got pics of the boats approaching the ship. It skipped from that to other shots of the chopper/s overhead. Then to the aid station. At no time did any footage show the actual boarding of the ship.

There is no footage at all of the 'battle' that supposedly took place on the bridge or in the media room. With 'hundreds' of people on the ship, there is no footage of where all these people were. This is supposedly raw footage, but there were inserts that were included(Obama among others)and repeated scenes toward the end. In other words, not 'raw' footage.

Like everyone else, wish we had all the footage to watch intact, both sides in fact. Not much value in this surviving small segment.

I guess it boils down to this: A ship carrying humanitarian aid, the stated purpose of which was to 'break' the blockade, refused to go to the designated port for inspection. To be fair, the Israelis had the right, under San Remo, to stop the ship outside the blockade and take control of the vessel. During boarding operations, something happened...by one side or by both. Flash Bangs were used. Paintball guns were used. Some live ammo was finally used--we've seen nothing to date(I haven't anyway)that shows the reason for the use of live ammo. This has been called murder. It has been called a massacre, which it certainly was not--at least not on a ship carrying hundreds of people.

The boarding force was a commando unit, highly disciplined and trained, who had the capability to kill most of the people on the ship but did not do so. Restraint was used. Does anyone KNOW what caused the friction that caused the use of live fire?

So, I guess we all wait until this gets sorted out.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 02:18 PM
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4. There is no claim that the video is conclusive.n/t
Edited on Thu Jun-10-10 02:18 PM by EFerrari
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 03:08 PM
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6. indeed, the assertion is it was the only video they could smuggle out
and stated clearly as a fragment.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 02:25 PM
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5. we'll when additional footage comes out
oh and that oh so innocent "A ship carrying humanitarian aid, the stated purpose of which was to 'break' the blockade, refused to go to the designated port for inspection." it was not for inspection it was for confiscation
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Noshlag71 Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 08:36 AM
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53. Confiscation?
Edited on Fri Jun-11-10 08:36 AM by Noshlag71
Israel did not confiscate the aid bound for Gaza, they confiscated the weapons and materials that may be used to make weapons, but nothing else. In contrast to this is Hamas who refused to let any of the aid into Gaza after Israel transported it from the Port of Ashdod to Gaza.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 08:59 AM
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54. What are some of the items Israel has prohibited from entering Gaza?
Edited on Fri Jun-11-10 09:28 AM by Douglas Carpenter

Prohibited Items*

sage
cardamom
cumin
coriander
ginger
jam
halva
vinegar
nutmeg
chocolate
fruit preserves
seeds and nuts
biscuits and sweets lentils
potato chips
gas for soft drinks
dried fruit
fresh meat
plaster
tar
wood for construction
cement
iron
glucose
industrial salt
plastic/glass/metal containers
industrial margarine
tarpaulin sheets for huts
fabric (for clothing)
flavor and smell enhancers
fishing rods shampoo
various fishing nets
buoys
ropes for fishing
nylon nets for greenhouses
hatcheries and spare parts for hatcheries
spare parts for tractors
dairies for cowsheds floor
irrigation pipe systems
ropes to tie greenhouses
planters for saplings
heaters for chicken
musical instruments
size A4 paper
writing implements
notebooks
newspapers
toys
razors
sewing machines and spare parts
heaters a
horses
donkeys
goats
cattle
chicks
matches

http://gisha.org/UserFiles/File/HiddenMessages/ItemsGazaStrip060510.pdf
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 03:47 PM
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7. You seem to be confusing Amy's report with the footage itself
which has no inserts whatsoever.

Since this isn't a Hollywood movie, the film maker could not step off of the vessel and hover above the water to show a long shot of where all those activists were on the three decks. But if you have been following this story at all, you run across images that other people recorded as well, particularly injured people being moved.

Of course it is raw footage. There are no edits in it.

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proReality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:10 PM
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8. New Video Smuggled Out from Mavi Marmara
I didn't see this posted anywhere. If it has been please remove.

EXCLUSIVE: New Video Smuggled Out from Mavi Marmara of Israel’s Deadly Assault on Gaza Aid Flotilla
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/6/10/exclusive_journalist_smuggles_out_video_of
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:10 PM
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:10 PM
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10. I thought this video would be released during a news conference at the UN at 4pm?
I assume that EDT.

Any word on this yet?
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Gregin Orlando Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:10 PM
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11. You don't need a video to know it was murder
A nineteen year-old being shot in the head four times at close range is enough evidence that it was a crime. This article provides a comprehensive look at eyewitness accounts: http://www.examiner.com/x-38220-Orlando-Independent-Examiner~y2010m6d4-American19-among-dead-on-ship-bound-for-Gaza-as-details-of-incident-begin-to-emerge
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:33 PM
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50. You don't need a video to know it was pre-meditated. Prison set-up at Ashdod
was done in advance.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:10 PM
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:10 PM
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13. This material has already been posted 3X.
Amy had it up under different names at her site.
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:10 PM
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14. And each time it has been moved to the Israeli board which can't be seen by the greatest page
nor the latest page. It's DU's trashbin for the most part.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:10 PM
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15. Futilely kicking for Amy Goodman
But considering it just verifies what we already figured out about the murder of the people on the flotilla I suspect this will disappear into the ether.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:10 PM
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16. The Images Israel Didn’t Want Seen: Video and Photographs from the Gaza-Bound Aid Flotilla
http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2010/6/10/the_images_they_didnt_want_seen_video_and_photographs_from_on_board_the_mavi_marmara

In the wake of the commando raid that left nine dead, the Israeli government confiscated every recording and communication device it could find–thus allowing the state to control what the world learned about the assault.

Democracy Now! has interviewed some of the reporters, filmmakers, and photographers who managed to smuggle out some of their images.

The Sydney Morning Herald’s Paul McGeough and Kate Geraghty Were on the Challenger I–another one of the ships that was in the Freedom Flotilla along with the Mavi Marmara. Photographer Kate Geraghty took hundreds of photographs, most of which were confiscated by the IDF.

Watch the interview with Paul McGeough and Kate Geraghty and see a few of her photographs here.


More at the link ---
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:10 PM
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17. Peeks head
out from attic. wonders if it safe to say the obvious...probably not. Goes back into hiding.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:10 PM
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18. Shhhh... you might get retired!
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:10 PM
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19. Murder on the high seas.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:10 PM
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20. Kate's photos are supposed to be up at Amy's site somewhere
Edited on Thu Jun-10-10 12:51 PM by EFerrari
but I can't find them anywhere.
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EJSTES2005 Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:10 PM
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21. Wonder when the lying thugs
will release all the confiscated videos ? In unedited form ? Surely they have nothing to hide...........And the videos will corroborate their story line.....

Not holding my fucking breath
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:10 PM
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22. Photos are supposed to be up on:
democracynow.org.
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EJSTES2005 Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:10 PM
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23. Last I checked Democracy Now only has one hour...
Edited on Thu Jun-10-10 05:02 PM by EJSTES2005
How about all the videos ? Unedited ? Maybe I should keep checking the site below for their release since they are the only ones with access......

ww.gov.il
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:12 PM
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24. EXCLUSIVE: New Video Smuggled Out from Mavi Marmara of Israel’s Deadly Assault on Gaza Aid Flotilla
Source: Democracy Now

EXCLUSIVE: New Video Smuggled Out from Mavi Marmara of Israel’s Deadly Assault on Gaza Aid Flotilla
Culturesofresistance

In a Democracy Now! exclusive, we bring you a sneak preview of previously unseen raw footage from the Mavi Marmara that will be formally released at a press conference at the United Nations later in the day. The footage shows the mood and the activities onboard the Mavi Marmara in the time leading up to the attack, and the immediate reaction of the passengers during the attack. We are joined by filmmaker and activist Iara Lee, one of the few Americans on the Mavi Marmara ship. Her equipment was confiscated, but she managed to smuggle out an hour’s worth of footage.



Read more: http://www.democracynow.org/2010/6/10/exclusive_journalist_smuggles_out_video_of
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:12 PM
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25. dupe.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:12 PM
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26. Another impartial eyewitness with no axe to grind whatsoever.
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:12 PM
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27. I am so sick of your shit. If Israel has nothing to hide they can release all the video they stole
then we wouldn't have to rely on witness statements, we can see for ourselves what happened. So take your bullshit elsewhere unless you want to explain why Israel is tampering with evidance.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:12 PM
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28. Surely they'll surrender the property they took when they realize it will exonerate them.Sure.n/t
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:13 PM
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30. I assume ANY government will tamper with evidence.
Which is why I haven't bothered to listen to one word of Israel's official story. I pay attention to the witness statements on the Palestinian side. Which you seem to be deliberately ignoring.

Because, if you were paying attention, you'd notice big fat flaming discrepancies. Or you would at least attempt to construct a timeline independent of Israel's. But it's so much easier to support your prejudice by railing at Israel and giving the pro-Palestinians a total pass. Because every one of them is a SAINT, a SAINT, I tell you.

So go be sick in the nearest bucket. You know you're side is lying its ass off.
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:13 PM
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32. Because everything Israel has said has been consistent? You are so full of shit
Israel stole video, tampered with it, and now refuses to release everything. They have made statements that turned out to be totally false. You ignore all this, why?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:13 PM
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:13 PM
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47. They didn't just "tamper" with evidence. They jammed the satellites
Edited on Thu Jun-10-10 02:36 PM by EFerrari
and confiscated tens of thousands of dollars worth of equipment and all the media it contained on all six vessels AND then proceeded to pirate that media for their own purposes. While they held those journalists and witnesses for days while their own official story got almost exclusive play.

It's one of the worst abuses of power I've ever seen. Rumsfeld must be envious.

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EJSTES2005 Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:13 PM
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33. +5555555555555555
Move along....nothing to see here right Fuquart
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Cal Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:13 PM
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31. Um, raw video footage? How much more impartial can you get?
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Cal Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:13 PM
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38. Go for what?
Who the fuck are you talking to dude?
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howard112211 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 10:05 AM
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58. He/she is talking to you. Accusing you of "not believing a word a Jew" says...
Just the latest instance of the endless stream of this type of stuff this poster puts out...
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:13 PM
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41. C'mon aquart, you're not that dense.
Yes, there were many hours on that ship, but not so many hours in which the Israeli commandos attacked. That pretty much narrows down the timeframe, doncha think?

And I would imagine that the footage in the camera at the time of the event, and thus on hand, would be the easiest to hide. No?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:13 PM
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48. This hour overlaps with the report that was live on the air
during the early part of the attack. Remember, the reporter ends his report by saying that the organizers have asked everyone to go inside and sit down? You can hear an announcement to go in and sit down on this video. The reporter was live on the air so if you want to do a timeline, that would be the point of comparison.
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Tripmann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:16 PM
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51. We say 1 hour, u say which hour. So which 60 SECONDS? They've no problem lamping the worlds media
with the 60 seconds that back up their story.

So, what are you claiming. 60 seconds released by the IDF from the operation proves israel in the right, but one hour released by the flotilla is bullshit?

This is why the world isn't buying it.

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Tripmann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:29 PM
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52. Israel has all of the hours aquart
Why confiscate video evidence and not show it? After all, if it happened just like israel claims, they would be vindicated, right?
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 08:46 AM
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57. yep - why confiscate all the video evidence
only one reason - something to hide.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:13 PM
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37. really.....did you bother took look up who took the film?
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:13 PM
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43. but, why confiscate tapes if there's nothing to hide?
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:13 PM
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44. Would you like to know the truth or would prefer to censor it?
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:13 PM
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29. k&r BTL! nt
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dtotire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:13 PM
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35. Very moving
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RedstDem Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:13 PM
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39. Makes no difference at all
Israel does what it wants to the rest of us, and gets away with, if not rewarded for, their actions.
been that way for as long as I can remember. I aint no spring chicken.

seriously, its a total waste of time.

they could kill US sailors if they want to for dog's sake, a few activist is meaningless.


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soulcore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:13 PM
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42. They DID kill you U.S Sailors. 34 to be exact.
Remember the U.S.S. Liberty.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:13 PM
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45. "Please don't attack"
:cry: :cry:
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:13 PM
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46. 48 shot, 6 others still missing
Who are the six still missing?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:13 PM
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49. Iara Lee raised the possibility that infiltrators simply walked off
into the sunset or that some of these people went overboard. Both are possible. I hope it's not the case that any of these people are still in detention without anyone knowing about that.

I have been trying to track down a doctor that attended the downed Israelis and who was injured or killed, without much success. There was more than one doctor on board the Mavi Marmara. A Turkish doctor was identified today in Amy's report. But the one I'm looking for is either Indonesian or Malaysian and no one has returned any of my inquiries about him yet.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 08:00 PM
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55.  No one knows. That will probably be part of the inquiry.
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ave Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 10:04 PM
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56. The full one hour footage is embedded in the following Ma’an News article:
“Watch: Raw footage of deadly flotilla raid

Bethlehem - Ma'an - A full hour of raw footage taken aboard the Mavi Marmara in the hour leading up to and during the Israeli attack on the Gaza Freedom Flotilla surfaced Thursday.

Despite the Israeli government’s efforts to confiscate all of the footage taken during the attack, filmmaker Iara Lee was able to smuggle one hour of footage back to the United States and is releasing it raw to the public Thursday.

A day earlier at the United Nations, Lee presented the footage for the first time to the press.

We started filming from the moment we boarded the Mavi Marmara right through the Israeli assault on the ship. Although all of our equipment was confiscated, we managed to smuggle this footage out,” Lee said Thursday at the UN in New York.

“Mine is high-definition footage of the Flotilla attack and also the only sustained footage of the ship and its passengers preceding the deadly Israeli commando raid. Watching this raw, unedited footage, you will get a sense of the mood on the ship and of the passengers on it. … “ Etc.

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=291334


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