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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 12:16 AM
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Israel's 'illegal' children
As the state took aim at Israel's 250,000 illegal labourers, 1,200 children were marked for expulsion along with their parents. The move, a sudden reversal of Israel's long-standing policy against deporting minors, sparked public outrage. Protests and media scrutiny delayed the deportations but only temporarily.
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But, in fact, many of the women became illegal simply because they gave birth in Israel. State policy forbids migrant workers from having children in the country. If a woman does, she must send her newborn home. If she keeps her baby in Israel, she loses her work visa. Romantic relationships are also forbidden for foreign workers. In June, the Israeli daily Haaretz reported on the story of Charlene Ramos, a Filipina caregiver with employment and a valid work visa, who faces deportation because she married another migrant labourer.
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"They don't even speak Tagalog," she adds. A majority of the children face deportation to the Philippines, a place most have never seen. Assimilation is not the only argument offered by the children's supporters. Some point to Jewish religious texts that prohibit the mistreatment of foreigners. Others say that the persecution suffered during the Holocaust bequeathed Jews with a unique responsibility to protect other minority groups.

But Yishai, head of the conservative Shas Party popular with Orthodox Jewish Israelis, has spent the past year defending his decision to expel the children. He calls the children a threat to the Jewish character of the state. He has also remarked that migrant workers bring a "profusion of diseases" to the country.

More at http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/2010/07/2010714111858399669.html
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 01:42 AM
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 10:52 PM
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3. So it's agains the law for a guest worker to have a romantic relationship?
Why don't they just insist that such people be rendered eunuchs before they can be guest workers in Israel?
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LeftistGorilla Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 07:23 AM
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4. Illegal to fall in love....
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howaboutme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:41 AM
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5. I usually avoid this forum
because the double standard that exists on the Israel Palestine topic in general really pisses me off. For example:

(from your article) "But Yishai, head of the conservative Shas Party popular with Orthodox Jewish Israelis, has spent the past year defending his decision to expel the children. He calls the children a threat to the Jewish character of the state. He has also remarked that migrant workers bring a "profusion of diseases" to the country."

If this isn't one of the most blatantly racist and supremacist statements ever made then what is? What would most progressives typically call a politician from any country who said "we need to expel these people because they are a threat to the (you name it - race, religion, ethnic, culture, etc) character of the state?" I consider any such statement from political leaders as racist and supremacy based regardless of the country.

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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 04:26 PM
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6. Yes, if it was any other developed, ostensibly democratic state
that that statement had come out of, there would have been an outpouring of outrage. Coming out of Israel though, it looks like the story is simply going to be ignored and allowed to sink with as little comment as possible. This is not something that anyone could defend (at least and still be a member of a progressive board) so they will simply pretend that this story doesn't even exist.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 05:37 PM
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7. That is why the progressive member of Israel's legislature called him an "archaic racist"
He also said:

"We're not going to let anyone deport them," Horowitz said, adding that giving the children permission to stay in Israel "is not enough".

They must be recognised as citizens of the state as well, he said, adding that "we are all Israeli children".

Members of the US Congress have made statements with respect to illegal immigrants in this country that are pretty racist as well.

Fortunately, they too are usually called out on it by more progressive members of our legislature.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 09:12 PM
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8. Well I certainly hope those children can be given Israeli citizenship.
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 09:25 PM by Crunchy Frog
Most of them have never even set foot in their "own" countries and many of them only speak Hebrew. I also hope they will decriminalize romantic relationships and childbearing among their guest worker population.

Eli Yishai is not just a member of the Israeli legislature. He is the interior minister. But apparently Binyamin Netanyahu is generously going to allow them to finish the school year.

I am glad to see that there are many decent people in Israel who are opposing this policy. The official policy of the state though, at this time, is to deport them.
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