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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 02:31 AM
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Fundamentalism into the mainstream
Fundamentalist rabbis have approved murder, attacks on Arabs, illegal land seizures and racist segregation, and have ignored the murder of a prime minister.

By Zvi Bar'el


First, the daily lesson: "A soldier who takes part in the war against us, but does so only because he is forced to by threats, is an absolute villain .... We are referring to any sort of participation in the war: a combat soldier, a support soldier, civilian assistance or any form of encouragement and support." And: "Even if civilians are tied up or imprisoned and have no choice but to stay and serve as hostages, it is possible to kill them."

Also: "In discussions on the killing of infants and children ... it is reasonable to harm children if it is clear they will grow up to harm us. Under such circumstances they should be the ones targeted." And finally: "There is no need to discuss the question of who is and is not innocent, just as when we are defending against evil we do not hesitate to strike at limbs that were not actually used in actions against us."

These are quotes from the book "The King's Torah" ("Torat Hamelech" ) by rabbis Yitzhak Shapira and Yosef Elitzur; it was published by Hamercaz Hatorani, near Od Yosef Hai Yeshiva. Many important rabbis have supported the two rabbis, and these quotes are part of the reason they are being investigated for suspected incitement and racism. Their refusal to be questioned allegedly was based on the fact that no one should be questioned or tried for his opinion.

In essence, their refusal places the law of the Torah above the law of the state. Rabbi Dov Lior, who backed the book, explained his opposition to their being interrogated as follows: "The harassment of the rabbis because of their halakhic views stands in direct opposition to the principles of freedom of religion and expression that are accepted by the state." Indeed, is it possible to accuse someone of hating gentiles? In a Jewish state?

Nothing new, so far. Fundamentalist rabbis have approved murder, attacks on Arabs and their property, the illegal takeover of land, racist segregation between Ashkenazi and Mizrahi female pupils, and have ignored (at least ) the murder of a prime minister. After all, the source of authority of those same rabbis, the book of books, is full of hair-raising descriptions of the vengeance exacted by the Children of Israel on the peoples of this land.

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/fundamentalism-into-the-mainstream-1.309438

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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 02:41 AM
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1. Fundamentalists, Ma'am, Are The Problem, Wherever They Appear
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 06:41 AM
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2. Totally true, sir.
Altemeyer showed it has little to do with ideology and everything to do with psychology.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 08:48 AM
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3. Yep, from the most religious fascist rightwingers to the most secular stalinist leftwingers. n/t
Edited on Sun Aug-22-10 08:48 AM by shira
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 03:21 PM
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4. Yeah, that was my point in posting this article...
They're all cut from the same cloth, no matter where they're from or what religion they are.
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