Palestinian Authority Textbook Calls for Jihad and Martyrdom

...The latest Palestinian Authority Textbook Calls for Jihad and Martyrdom on a level that was banned by the Oslo Accords. While Israel continues to violate this as well, this development shows a renewed commitment to indoctrinate another generation with hate speech and a fixation on Jihad (or as the textbook puts it "Just War" undertaken by Muslims).

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Translation Source:
http://www.memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SR2203

This is bound to be yet another bit of evidence to be vollied back and foreth between unilateralist pro-Isreal hardliners and unilateralist pro-Palestine hardliners arguing over who's the more prolific murderer.

Sigh.

Unless you are a terrified, ignorant, xenophobe there is nothing sinister about the word "jihad". There was nothing in there to object to, it's a book on Islamic culture and it's no different than any textbook printed anywhere else on the planet including the US on the subject.

"Islam is Allah's religion for all human beings. It should be proclaimed and invite to join it wisely and through appropriate preaching and friendly discussions. However, such methods may encounter resistance and the preachers may be prevented from accomplishing their duty… then, Jihad and the use of physical force against the enemies become inevitable…


"Jihad is an Islamic term that equates to the term war in other nations. The difference is that Jihad has noble goals and lofty aims, and is carried out only for the sake of Allah and for His glory…"

I don't really feel terrified, and I don't think of myself as an ignorant xenophobe. Yet I can't help by notice that this quote is talking about waging war on heterics in order to convert them to Islam. And these are contemporary, not ancient texts.

There's nothing sinister about the PA text? In that case, please enlighten me as to what this quote really means.

it says they need to wage war if some nation is not allowing Islam to be practiced and abusing their preachers. The fact that you read in your own sinister interpretation should say something.

Are there any other religions you would extend that right to? If somewhere, say, Christianity cannot be practiced and Christian preachers are abused, ought all Christians to gather for war against the place as a sacred duty? If they did, would you support the doing?

It is not wise, Sir, to assume that people here are ignorant or bigotted.

wherever Christianity was not a dominant religion (Africa etc..)

It is a vile practice, endemic to people who are certain they are correct in matters about which no certainty whatever is possible. It is no more to be called right when done by Moslems than when done by Christians or Buddhists.

Are there any Christians in this forum want to stand up for the validity of the crusades? I sorta doubt it.

Are we even reading the same text? Let's go over it again!

Islam is Allah's religion for all human beings. It should be proclaimed and invite to join it wisely and through appropriate preaching and friendly discussions. However, such methods may encounter resistance and the preachers may be prevented from accomplishing their duty… then, Jihad and the use of physical force against the enemies become inevitable…

1. Islam is the religion for all people. You could either say that this means all people SHOULD practice Islam, or that everybody is WELCOME to practice Islam. It's not really conclusive.

2. Preacher should invite other's to join Islam. That's pretty clear, I think.

but 3. Preacher's may be prevented from performing this duty - the duty of bringing more people to Islam. In that case, they MUST (as in, it is "inevitable" that they will) use phyiscal force against those who would keep them from accomplishing the duty of conversion.

You insinuate that I'm a bigot, but out of the two of us, it seems like I'm the one trying to engage in thoughtful discussion (rather than dealing insults) Please note that at no time did I attribute this argument to contemporary Islam as it is practiced at large in the world. We are talking about a specific text here.

Your statements say something about you, too.

I also don't see how you could teach a course in Islamic studies without teaching the historic principles of jihad. I also have no idea from MEMRI's little cut and paste job exactly how it was presented in context to the modern world.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php

This thread is a dupe.

what JIHAD originally means. But then it's MEMRI and I rest my case here...

Care to share yours, cknoch?

Plain and simple...we have already been involved in the beginnings of a new world war. The war has been formally declared many times by the Radical Islamo-Fascist forces mainly on the forces of Humanist Democratic societies, but anyone else refusing to submit to their rule. They don't won't to discuss peace...they only want subjugation and submission to Allah (This is what Islam is). The goal of these people is to send us back into the dark ages where religious leaders dictate what happens in society.

I don't like this...and our society shares the blame for the coming storm, but blame has no place in a fight for the right to exist freely...even if its in a cubicle LOL.

http://www.democraticunderground.org/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=124&topic_id=31362&mesg_id=31362

I don't think we need to go over this again.

I know, but I saw this one first, and we're discussing it here already.

Can DU Admin transplant the responses to the other post? I want to talk about the things being said here.

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To continue go here.