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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 08:18 AM
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Netanyahu's 'no' speech could spur a resounding 'yes'
NEW YORK - If the Palestinian initiative to declare independence in the UN General Assembly in September needed a shot in the arm, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu provided it. The list of no's Benjamin Netanyahu proudly and emphatically enumerated on Capitol Hill reconfirmed to the United Nations and the entire international community the motive for a unilateral declaration of a Palestinian state: the ongoing freeze in the peace process and the lack of dialogue between the parties. The speech, as it was understood in New York, left no likelihood that talks would be renewed in the foreseeable future, and it may have brought the peace process to an end.

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Even if Obama wants to prove to Israel's supporters in Washington that he stands behind his own position - that a unilateral declaration of a Palestinian state in September would be a mistake - Obama's ability to influence voting patterns in the UN General Assembly is limited. There have been cases when American efforts to influence a vote produced the opposite of the desired result. The most recent example is the vote on a Security Council resolution a few weeks ago against the settlements, considered a humiliation to the U.S. administration. Fourteen members of the Security Council ignored American urging and voted to condemn the settlements, pushing the United States and its veto into embarrassing isolation.

Two Western diplomats gave the same assessment, in separate conversations, of Obama's chances of influencing the outcome of the vote in the General Assembly on Palestinian statehood. The Israeli prime minister did not deal Obama "a good hand" in his speech to Congress, they both said. In other words, Netanyahu offered Obama no good reasons he could use to persuade world leaders to direct their UN envoys to vote against the resolution.

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A recent assessment in New York, based on data provided by Palestinians and other Arabs, predicted a majority - 135 of 192 members - voting in favor of Palestinian statehood. Following Netanyahu's speech, the majority could climb to more than 160.

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/netanyahu-s-no-speech-could-spur-a-resounding-yes-1.364663
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 09:35 AM
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1. It all comes down to the Security Council
Should be an interesting September.

I predict peace and tranquility as well as freedom and justice for all people across the region in 2012 and beyond!
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 09:54 AM
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2. Well, FWIW, I think the opening of Rafah is far more significant than all this UN blahther(sic). nt
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 01:32 PM
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3. True, Sir
That opens up possibilities for people to make money....
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 01:51 PM
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4. "Facts on the Ground" Sir.
Nice to see you.
:hi:
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Never Stop Dancin Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 06:20 AM
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8. Wrong.
It just gives the green light to terror.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 10:08 PM
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5. J'lem unsure Obama moved EU against Palestinian state bid
In Jerusalem’s post mortem evaluations of Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu’s stormy visit to Washington, questions were raised about the wisdom of the US trying to prevent European support of a Palestinian state at the UN by first setting a return to the 1967 lines, with mutual land swaps, as the negotiation baseline.

White House officials have said that one of the reasons why President Barack Obama unveiled this as the new US position in his May 19 speech on the Middle East was to better be able to convince the Europeans that there was no need to support a Palestinian state.

But, according to various assessments in Jerusalem, it would have been more effective had the US first received European agreement not to support the Palestinian Authority move in the UN, and then make the statement about the 1967 lines, rather than the other way around.

The way it stands now, the 1967 language is out there, and there is no certainty the Europeans will support the US position against a Palestinian state at the UN.

http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=222772
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 01:10 AM
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6. The bully get his way once again
When will the spineless congress critters tell BiBi to take a hike?Our leaders seem to like war criminals,Bush/Chaney,BiBi )oh I forgot they only like white war criminal,the yellow,brown and other hues they kill(murder).Eventually justice will prevail,the unjust and their enablers will pay dearly.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 05:36 AM
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7. Lon Chaney was not a war criminal!
You really should take that back.
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