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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 08:27 PM
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Indian American ISM Activist To Sue Israel
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/WO0311/S00238.htm

International Solidarity Movement volunteer Radhika Sainath, from Orange County, California is suing the state of Israel on Thursday, November 27 for unlawful imprisonment, negligence and breach of obligations. Leading human rights lawyer Shamai Liebowitz will be representing Ms. Sainath, who was seized by Israeli soldiers last November in the olive groves of the West Bank village Jayyous.

Ms. Sainath will testify against the gross misconduct of Israeli authorities in handling her arrest, during which she was prohibited from calling her lawyer, not served with an arrest warrant and transferred to multiple holding centers over 48 hours, causing her to suffer mental trauma and agony.
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 12:29 PM
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1. this is the same woman
referred to in the article Indian-American woman confronts Israeli Terror with nonviolence

DU thread on that story here
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 12:34 PM
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2. And Liebowitz
Edited on Wed Dec-10-03 12:34 PM by bluesoul
will probably be branded a "traitor" and "misguided"...
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:07 PM
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26. Don't forget "self-hating".
n/t
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 06:49 PM
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3. "mental trauma and agony"?
:nopity:
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 02:33 PM
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13. why make fun of her sufferings?
What's the point?
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 02:40 PM
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14. Where do the suicide victims and their..
families get to sue for mental trauma and agony ??


hmmm???

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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:10 PM
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15. I would think, world court Belguim, and maybe they
could get some frozen Hamas funds .... ???
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 09:42 AM
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17. that doesn't answer the question
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 09:26 PM
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21. Well ...thats my answer..
so, where do the victims and their families go to
to sue for mental trauma and agony against the
mindless inhuman palestinian terrorist brutality ??



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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:34 PM
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22. that's not an answer either
Is it really that difficult?

Why make fun of the person's suffering and agony? I don't understand it.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:30 PM
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25. Nothing funny there.
but feel free to answer my question or we can go in
circles for the next year....or until the next
ISM requiem.
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 09:41 PM
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32. I will have to guess
that my question was too difficult for you?

One more time: Why make fun of someone's sufferings?
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Jackie97 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:18 PM
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23. I'd like to see Israelis try to sue the Palestinians.
Suing from people who have little to nothing because you keep voting for people who take away what little that they have. That idea sounds funny as heck.
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 06:43 AM
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29. Little or nothing
Don't forget they had Uncle Saddam spending billions on them, as well as multi-millionaire Arafat, their devine protector, sure to bail them out of any trouble.

The fog settles and details like that become clearer and clearer.
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:23 PM
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35. oh I see
so that's why Israeli planners kept demanding that the U.S. take out Saddam.

Yes the details get clearer each day.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 08:48 PM
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4. I'm sorry, she interferes with a military operation in a war zone,
is detained for two days during which her biggest complaint was being "transferred to {sic} multiple holding centers," and now has the gall to sue over it?

She should be grateful that Israel recognized she was a harmless non-com. This is war.
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 08:11 AM
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5. Those crazy peace-activists
expecting to be treated decently and all ... what are they thinking?
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 11:44 AM
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8. I'm not saying she shouldn't have been treated decently
But what I am saying is that war is inherently a dangerous and chaotic environment, and that anybody who voluntarily places themself in the midst of such of an environment runs an enormous risk, absent any sort of conspiracy against her.
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 08:17 AM
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6. I guess peace activists
Edited on Thu Dec-11-03 08:30 AM by bluesoul
present a danger to the society, eh?
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 10:05 AM
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7. this one is lucky
she wasn't murdered, like how Rachel Corrie was bulldozed, or when they shot Tom Hurndall in the head.

Then again, I guess there is still time to take her out, eh?
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 11:47 AM
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9. Why don't you go to Falluja
and be a peace activist there? I think you'd quickly find that the natural mortality rate for so-called neutrals who put themselves between two beligerent parties in a war zone is a lot higher than you'd care to believe and really requires no malice aforethought.
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:08 PM
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10. I would rather not ...
and risk being murdered by an Israeli terrorist like the ones that killed Rachel or Tom, or the one who shot Brian Avery in the face.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:17 PM
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11. I would not expect there to be many Israelis,
terrorists or otherwise, in Falluja. But then, what do I know?

Are you implying that there aren't any inherent risks to being in a war zone? That conscientious objectors can, unless they are deliberately targeted, walk freely between two or more belligerent factions on a battlefield and not run a very high risk of being wounded or killed?
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:20 PM
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12. Rachel Corrie, Tom Hurndall, and others
are deliberately targeted for murder by Israeli Occupation Forces - that's the point.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 09:16 PM
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16. deliberately targeted ? I don't know , maybe more like
negligent homicide, or an opportunist of the moment
some Israely soldier who just like to kill a peacenik
spur of the moment ...
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 03:00 PM
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18. the trigger happy soldier with a peace activist in his sights
had to be given a green-light from somewhere, don't you think?
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 07:34 PM
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19. furthermore
they are getting away with it, so why not deliberately target them? With an American media standing by pretending like these things don't happen, and a right-wing administration ready to forgive and (quickly) forget any and all "mishaps" (woops, did we bulldoze one of your citizens to death?), why not keep on gunning them down?
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 09:14 PM
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20. or a look the other way
..
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Jackie97 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:23 PM
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24. Mobuto, consider this.
I used to have an open mind to the idea that Rachael Corrie's death was an accident.

That is, I had that open mind until a wave of attacks against people from ISM (and one time, their visiting parents) took place.

Mobuto, IDF was able to keep from killing the activists before. Now, they suddenly can't help but kill or injure them. I don't buy it.
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:14 PM
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27. since you frown on peaceful resistance techniques,
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 11:55 PM by Aidoneus
I guess that leaves force (which I approve of), which I assume you also disapprove of. What then, if anything, would you suggest?
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 06:39 AM
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28. Ideally, R Corrie
Edited on Mon Dec-15-03 06:41 AM by Gimel
Should have been arrested also. There should have been a contingent of Army medics and social works, psychologists, translators and signal corpsmen, to attend to her every need. Then they could have arrested her a put her in an nice comfy cell, with her favorite foods, entertainment, music and frequent visits form ISM comrades.

Of course the bill for her detention would be payable to the IDF. Israel is short of funds, also. (on edit)
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 06:47 AM
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30. Arrested?
Edited on Mon Dec-15-03 06:47 AM by bluesoul
For what? Opposing a bulldozer illegally demolishing a house of a civilian in the OT (NOT Israeli land!)?
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 02:07 PM
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31. Endangering life
would you believe? Or maybe they'd just deport her as visa is expired.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 10:43 PM
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33. "Endangering life" ???? !!!!
Edited on Mon Dec-15-03 10:45 PM by number6
wha-aaaaaaaaaaaaaatt ??? :wow::wow::wow::wow:
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 04:01 PM
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34. I share your sentiment, number6
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 03:03 PM
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36. Of course
her own. Isn't it a fact?
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 03:40 PM
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37. I'm going to have to start charging you for this
my jaw cannot handle all of the occasions you make it drop to the floor with such surreal proclamations.

So, she should be arrested for the Peace 'Dozer(TM) endangering her life by charging towards her.. do you want the driver arrested as part of this too, since he was kinda sorta maybe partly doing the "endangering" involved here, or was that brave & heroic man just "defending himself against 'terrorism'"?
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 10:21 PM
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40. get a chin strap?
;)
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