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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-04 01:48 PM Original message |
Israel is not allowed to defend itself |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-04 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
1. bombing palestinian homes and taking their land is not self defence |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-04 01:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Your blanket |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-04 03:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-04 03:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Why does that matter |
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Aussie_Hillbilly (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 06:36 AM Response to Reply #14 |
27. Complicity with genocide? |
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sir_captain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 03:00 PM Response to Reply #12 |
41. describing the I/P situation as genocide... |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 03:20 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. I looked in a dictionary. |
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methinks2 (894 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 03:32 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I believe the exact term is ethnocide |
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sir_captain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 05:05 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. who said that's what it meant? |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 03:53 PM Response to Reply #42 |
72. When genocide occurs, the target population decreases (usually to zero). |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-04 05:40 PM Response to Reply #72 |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 03:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
71. When genocide occurs, the target population decreases (usually to zero). |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 03:39 PM Response to Reply #71 |
129. Case dismissed?? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 03:45 PM Response to Reply #129 |
132. Pesky facts |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 04:01 PM Response to Reply #132 |
140. There are pesky facts on all sides of this issue. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 02:19 PM Response to Reply #140 |
207. Nobody on our side is making claims like genocide |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 02:55 PM Response to Reply #207 |
217. People on your side are making plenty of other crazy claims. |
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number6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-04 07:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
20. not an exaggeration |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 12:03 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Of course |
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number6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 08:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
52. bulldozing=bombing as far as I concerned... |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 02:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
68. I guess... |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 03:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
73. When genocide occurs, the target population decreases (usually to zero). |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 01:49 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. It Is A Grotesque Exaggeration, Mr. 6 |
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number6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 08:29 PM Response to Reply #26 |
51. Grotesque Exaggeration to you ... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 11:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
76. No, it wasn't... |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 09:15 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. No, it isn't... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 09:44 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Yes, that would be exaggeration... |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 01:22 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. You're right... |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-04 02:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. There is no other choice. |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. they can choose to abandon the settlements and respect the right |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-04 05:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. You and I both know that won't stop terrorism. |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 02:32 PM Response to Reply #13 |
39. And the Palestinians |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 02:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
69. Palestinians can choose to abandon their plans... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 12:02 AM Response to Reply #69 |
77. That's complete nonsense... |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 10:58 AM Response to Reply #77 |
81. Well, yes |
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drdon326 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 12:25 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Unfortunately forgethell.... |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 06:33 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Jeez |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 08:37 PM Response to Reply #83 |
186. And if that had been the rule |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 12:13 PM Response to Reply #186 |
198. It was the rule |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-04 04:50 AM Response to Reply #81 |
89. Arafat has acknowledged Israel's right to exist... |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-04 12:18 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. Yeah, yeah |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 02:38 AM Response to Reply #92 |
170. No, no... |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 12:48 PM Response to Reply #170 |
202. Browse on |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 03:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
70. It's not your call. Israeli voters wll decide. |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-04 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
2. Since when does Israel need permission? |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-04 01:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Permission is usually |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-04 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
5. OMG, Israel is defenseless now! |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-04 02:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Don't they wish |
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dfong63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-04 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
8. then why isn't Yasser Arafat allowed to "defend himself", |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-04 03:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Is it Fair? |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-04 03:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Well, then, make up your mind. |
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number6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-04 07:10 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. good one |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 10:43 AM Response to Reply #16 |
30. Qualitative |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 10:50 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. "105 innocent civilians killed in one month." |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 10:58 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. No I'm not |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 11:46 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. You're ignoring the option |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 01:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Don't buy it |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 03:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. The lens of ideology distorts infamously. |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 02:54 AM Response to Reply #44 |
54. It was Arafat |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 09:50 AM Response to Reply #54 |
57. See #44. /nt |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 03:21 AM Response to Reply #44 |
116. The Temple Mount |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 09:07 AM Response to Reply #116 |
117. The Temple Mount is not just a Jewish site. |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 12:18 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. I disagree |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 12:56 PM Response to Reply #118 |
121. "There are many facts . . . some of which I have already given to you." |
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tinnypriv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 01:04 PM Response to Reply #121 |
123. I would suggest dropping this line of questioning |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 03:37 PM Response to Reply #123 |
128. Since |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 09:22 PM Response to Reply #121 |
163. actually... |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 10:17 PM Response to Reply #121 |
165. I'm amazed how respectful you are of the Muslim holy sites... |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 03:49 PM Response to Reply #165 |
177. Eh? |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 08:54 PM Response to Reply #177 |
187. sharons visit |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:21 AM Response to Reply #187 |
188. Okay, fine. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 09:50 PM Response to Reply #188 |
192. Yeah, that's a realistic comparison |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 08:44 AM Response to Reply #192 |
194. A political leader has a responsibility |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 08:53 AM Response to Reply #194 |
196. According to who? |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 02:02 PM Response to Reply #196 |
203. According to any political leader, anywhere, any time. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 12:31 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. Not deliberate provocation |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 12:58 PM Response to Reply #119 |
122. "Visit"??? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 01:43 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. You do when people want to kill you |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 03:44 PM Response to Reply #124 |
131. "How the Palestinians chose to market their response." |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 03:47 PM Response to Reply #131 |
134. And you don't think EI is marketing? |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 03:50 PM Response to Reply #134 |
137. Who didn't allow him to visit the site? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 04:10 PM Response to Reply #137 |
142. They had no choice |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #142 |
145. Marched an army on the Temple Mount. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 05:02 PM Response to Reply #145 |
148. An ARMY? |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 05:22 PM Response to Reply #148 |
151. Well, we obviously disagree. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 05:26 PM Response to Reply #151 |
154. Having been to the Temple Mount |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 05:42 PM Response to Reply #154 |
158. When and under what circumstances |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-04 06:54 AM Response to Reply #137 |
231. The response |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-04 05:08 PM Response to Reply #231 |
233. You seem to have this ridiculous idea |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 03:41 PM Response to Reply #122 |
130. The timing |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 03:46 PM Response to Reply #130 |
133. So, on your planet, "negotiation" means that one side presents a plan |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 03:48 PM Response to Reply #133 |
135. Where was Arafat's "counterproposal" |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 03:52 PM Response to Reply #135 |
138. You mean, what would his counterproposal have been |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 04:10 PM Response to Reply #138 |
143. Sharon is merely a convenient excuse |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #143 |
146. And saying so makes it so. Right? /nt |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 05:03 PM Response to Reply #146 |
149. No, their reaction makes it a correct statement |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 05:23 PM Response to Reply #149 |
152. Reacting to provocation means there was no provocation. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 05:29 PM Response to Reply #152 |
156. If they consider Jews visiting a JEWISH holy site provocative |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 05:38 PM Response to Reply #156 |
157. The Temple Mount is the second holiest site in Islam, after Mecca. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 06:07 PM Response to Reply #157 |
160. And the temple (including the Wailing Wall) |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 03:51 PM Response to Reply #160 |
178. That has no bearing on our discussion. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 05:16 PM Response to Reply #178 |
183. Leaders travel with security detachments |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:22 AM Response to Reply #183 |
189. "I have little doubt" |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 11:32 PM Response to Reply #133 |
167. Discussions |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 02:07 AM Response to Reply #133 |
168. Dennis Ross |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 03:58 PM Response to Reply #168 |
179. Gee. Dennis Ross. Wow. |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 02:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
40. Arafat has every right to try. |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 03:22 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Yes. |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 07:10 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Oh, You mean suicide bombings? |
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tinnypriv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 07:22 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. "Hide their cowardly carcasses behind women & children" |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 12:49 PM Response to Reply #50 |
63. What have the Jewish, etc. |
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tinnypriv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 01:46 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Actually |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 11:09 AM Response to Reply #66 |
82. Not a good recommedation |
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tinnypriv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-04 12:47 PM Response to Reply #82 |
96. "But they didn't do it in the American revolution" |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-04 03:28 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Tell me more |
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tinnypriv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-04 08:25 AM Response to Reply #97 |
104. Sure |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 12:48 PM Response to Reply #104 |
120. Actually, what I would prefer |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-04 04:01 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. What about the slaughter of pro-British Americans? |
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tinnypriv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-04 07:07 AM Response to Reply #98 |
102. Well |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 01:59 PM Response to Reply #98 |
125. Was it part of |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 06:32 PM Response to Reply #125 |
162. There was certainly mob action... |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 09:58 AM Response to Reply #48 |
58. How generous of you to define all the terms yourself. |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 12:54 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. Then most people are wrong. |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 01:22 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Most people are wrong, I'm right, |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 06:37 PM Response to Reply #65 |
86. The rights and wrongs |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-04 04:56 AM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Where are these facts you've examined? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-04 12:32 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. Deleted message |
library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-04 05:51 PM Response to Reply #95 |
106. It's not a question of giving Arafat anything. |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 02:51 PM Response to Reply #106 |
127. It's so easy for you, isn't it |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 03:49 PM Response to Reply #127 |
136. Please read #109 and get back to me. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 04:15 PM Response to Reply #136 |
144. So then you disagree with the UN mandate? |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 04:48 PM Response to Reply #144 |
147. All PEOPLE around the world are potential targets of terror. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 05:04 PM Response to Reply #147 |
150. So you don't even support the existence of Israel |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 05:25 PM Response to Reply #150 |
153. You support the dispossession of one people to make a state for another. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 05:28 PM Response to Reply #153 |
155. The UN ruled on this 55 years ago |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 05:45 PM Response to Reply #155 |
159. Accepting something and supporting it are two different things. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 06:08 PM Response to Reply #159 |
161. Deleted message |
Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 09:35 AM Response to Reply #159 |
174. So then it appears what you are saying |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 09:48 AM Response to Reply #174 |
176. No, he is saying... |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 04:39 PM Response to Reply #176 |
180. Exactly. Thank you. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 05:18 PM Response to Reply #180 |
184. Many DO think Israel can be undone |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 02:28 AM Response to Reply #155 |
169. Since when have you cared what the UN says? |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 12:18 PM Response to Reply #147 |
199. Just exactly HOW many |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 02:05 PM Response to Reply #199 |
204. Take a quick look at the 116,000 hits you get |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 02:24 PM Response to Reply #204 |
210. That's not a stat |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 02:39 PM Response to Reply #210 |
211. So, for my response to be legitimate, |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 02:48 PM Response to Reply #211 |
214. They could all link to the same article |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 02:57 PM Response to Reply #214 |
218. Wow. Completely factproof. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 12:23 PM Response to Reply #147 |
200. I assume you mean post-9/11 |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #200 |
206. Well, let's see - 9/11 was in 2001 - I said "right now" - |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 02:21 PM Response to Reply #206 |
208. And the difference is |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 02:44 PM Response to Reply #208 |
212. This whole sub-string began |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 02:50 PM Response to Reply #212 |
215. Jews are indeed targets worldwide |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 03:00 PM Response to Reply #215 |
219. "We post those statistics all the time here." |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 03:51 PM Response to Reply #219 |
221. You have a star |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 04:28 PM Response to Reply #221 |
222. In other words, you've got zilch. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 05:06 PM Response to Reply #222 |
223. No, even your allies here can attest to the many surveys |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 05:23 PM Response to Reply #223 |
224. In other words, you've got zilch. |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 06:39 PM Response to Reply #223 |
225. You made the claim, you back it up. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 04:06 PM Response to Reply #127 |
141. Deleted message |
library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 04:44 PM Response to Reply #127 |
181. You didn't answer the question. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 05:21 PM Response to Reply #181 |
185. Depends on how long the Palestinians embrace terror |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:23 AM Response to Reply #185 |
190. So until the Palestinians all submit to their oppression, it can't end. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 09:48 PM Response to Reply #190 |
191. The Palestinians already submitted to oppression |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 08:45 AM Response to Reply #191 |
195. See #190. /eom |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 08:55 AM Response to Reply #195 |
197. See #191. /eom |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 02:06 PM Response to Reply #197 |
205. See #190. /eom |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 02:21 PM Response to Reply #205 |
209. You first. LOL. |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 02:46 PM Response to Reply #209 |
213. You first. LOL. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 02:51 PM Response to Reply #213 |
216. The difference is |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 03:01 PM Response to Reply #216 |
220. No difference at all. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 03:10 AM Response to Reply #95 |
171. Interesting response... |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 12:45 PM Response to Reply #171 |
201. Violet, you are mistaken on all counts. |
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bubblesby2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 08:47 PM Response to Reply #48 |
75. How about this - was this terrorism? |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-04 12:19 PM Response to Reply #75 |
93. Yes |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-04 08:09 AM Response to Reply #75 |
103. You forget |
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Aussie_Hillbilly (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-04 08:18 PM Response to Reply #103 |
110. The World Trade Centre |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-04 08:39 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. And how does that compare to a military target? |
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Aussie_Hillbilly (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-04 09:38 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. I think it is a good comparison |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-04 10:07 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. King David |
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Aussie_Hillbilly (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-04 10:47 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. Irgun Terror |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 10:12 PM Response to Reply #115 |
164. They only blew up the wing of the hotel... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 03:14 AM Response to Reply #164 |
172. Disgusting... |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 09:08 AM Response to Reply #172 |
173. Just making it up as you go along... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-16-04 12:50 AM Response to Reply #173 |
193. Not at all... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 09:41 AM Response to Reply #172 |
175. Deleted message |
ex_jew (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-04 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
9. Israel is "defending" its illegally-conquered territories |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-04 03:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Agreements were broken |
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idontwantaname (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-04 03:27 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. damn right! |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-04 04:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Sometimes... |
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idontwantaname (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-04 04:44 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. and what was the pilgrim objective?... |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 12:50 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. I doubt it |
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Aussie_Hillbilly (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 10:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
87. Yes |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 07:11 PM Response to Reply #9 |
49. Who agreed? When? |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 04:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
74. No borders have ever been agreed on. Those who say otherwise |
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tinnypriv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-04 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
22. Ze'ev's right |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 01:15 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Historical views |
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tinnypriv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 09:26 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. My mistake |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 11:27 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. You quoted |
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tinnypriv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 11:50 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. You're right |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
28. Bulldozings and assasinations of easily arrested persons aren't |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 10:35 PM Response to Reply #28 |
53. Easily arrested? |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-04 12:20 PM Response to Reply #53 |
94. He's an invalid that has been arrested twice before. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-04 05:50 AM Response to Reply #94 |
101. Israel had to give him up in a prisoner exchange |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
33. Well, thank goodness there's no hypocrisy on the Israeli side. |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 11:31 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Might have been better |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-04 03:32 PM Response to Reply #35 |
46. "Jews didn't come as foreign conquerors." |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 06:03 AM Response to Reply #46 |
55. Sorry, but Jews were in that area for thousands of years |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 09:59 AM Response to Reply #55 |
59. What a lie! |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-04 05:49 AM Response to Reply #59 |
100. So, even in your statement you prove my point |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-04 05:57 PM Response to Reply #100 |
107. Waidaminute. |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-04 07:03 AM Response to Reply #59 |
232. The latest statistics |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-04 05:09 PM Response to Reply #232 |
234. This is mythical history. |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-04 02:15 AM Response to Reply #234 |
236. Absurd |
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Aussie_Hillbilly (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-04 03:23 AM Response to Reply #236 |
237. Priceless! |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-04 05:40 PM Response to Reply #236 |
239. Sometimes we expect statements like "factually wrong" |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 12:06 AM Response to Reply #55 |
78. So were the people now called Palestinians... |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 08:16 AM Response to Reply #46 |
56. "an alien people" |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 10:11 AM Response to Reply #56 |
60. You're a little off on that definition of "oppressed." |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 10:25 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. The many forms |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 10:31 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Really? |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-04 02:34 PM Response to Reply #46 |
67. A friend of mine was born in a displaced persons' camp in Europe. |
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Aussie_Hillbilly (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-04 11:07 PM Response to Reply #67 |
88. My congratulations to the family of your friend |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-04 10:30 AM Response to Reply #88 |
91. No moral equivilence intended... |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-04 06:01 PM Response to Reply #91 |
108. "Accepting and building a state of their own"? |
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LibertyorDeath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-04 02:51 AM Response to Original message |
99. When I stop laughing I'll give a cogent response |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-04 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
109. Try this analogy to help understand Palestinian "unreasonableness" |
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Aussie_Hillbilly (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-04 08:31 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. That is one of the best analogies I have read. |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 02:06 PM Response to Reply #109 |
126. Some answers |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 03:59 PM Response to Reply #126 |
139. Naturally, you assume that the US government would side with the Martians. |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-17-04 09:55 AM Response to Reply #139 |
226. If you're beat, you're beat |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 01:54 PM Response to Reply #226 |
227. Islam, "whose religious doctrines impel them |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 03:01 PM Response to Reply #227 |
228. Islam, whose religious doctrines impel them to |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 04:30 PM Response to Reply #228 |
229. The Crusades????!!!! |
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Aussie_Hillbilly (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-28-04 03:43 AM Response to Reply #228 |
238. Interesting. |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-04 10:31 PM Response to Reply #109 |
166. Seminoles were the aboriginal people of Florida |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-04 04:55 PM Response to Reply #166 |
182. No, the Caribbean Indians were there first. |
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ImperialistLackey (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-19-04 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
230. Force the Palestinians into their new State of what was Iraq |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-04 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
235. Europe reeks. |
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