Aaronovitch: How did the far Left manage to slip into bed with the

Jew-hating right.

This relates to the UK left moreso than the US left. Still, the questions are disturbing.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22369-1671715_1,00.html

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Next week the SWP begins the annual festival at which members, supporters and friends are spoken at and sung to on topics revolutionary and progressive. Marxism 2005 features grizzled Trots from the 1970s, Tony Benn, George Galloway, a poet or two and, for the third year running, billed at No 13 on the speaker’s list, a chap called Gilad Atzmon.

And that’s where the trouble starts. Atzmon is a well-known jazz-musician, an Israeli-born Jew and — as the SWP has previously described him — also a deliverer of “fearless tirades against Zionism”. But the tirades have got him into trouble with more than just the Jewish community. A Palestinian musician told me a couple of years ago that she would no longer work with Atzmon because, in her opinion, he was “an anti-Semite”. He had, somewhere, crossed the line.

In 2003, for instance, Atzmon, who makes many speeches and runs a very substantial website, said this about the idea of a global Jewish plot: “We must begin to take the accusation that the Jewish people are trying to control the world very seriously.”

Why? Because “American Jewry makes any debate on whether the Protocols of the Elders of Zionitic forgery are an authentic document or rather a forgery irrelevant. American Jews do try to control the world, by proxy. So far they are doing pretty well for themselves at least.”
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The article also discusses how Atzmon has been an advocate for vile racists like Israel Shamir and Paul Eisen.

The SWP is disgracing itself by giving this bigot a platform.

Did you read the article?

when it comes to anti-semitism.

The problem is that since PNAC helped push the agenda * is following, and since many in PNAC are Jewish, it only furthers their anti-Jewish seniments

I am Jewish, and the damage that is being done by these ultra-conservative zealots in our government will unfortunately reflect badly on most of the progressive/liberal Jews in this country thanks to Perle, Wolfiwetz(sic), etc. It won't matter that there are non-Jews in PNAC, the most outspoken ones are screwing us

They used to get into fights with racists and fascists.

Can you imagine the left of 30 years ago condoning Holocaust denial?

Now, the SWP is inviting them to its signature event.

the perfect example was Russia during the pograms.

the extreme right was nazi Germany

Fascist were often known to allege that Jews were responsible for the Communist movement.

Oh, the irony.

Gilad Atzmon's home pageGilad Atzmon, top proffesional jazz musician playing saxophone and clarinet. Performing all over the world. ENJA RECORDS. Playing with Ian Dury and the ...
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http://www.gilad.co.uk/

in a nanosecond.

Do you have any examples of such "racist filth" on that web site?

consider racist, but here it goes:

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The J’s are the ultimate chameleons, they can be whatever they like as long as it serves as some expedient. As soon as you criticise their expansionist militant national beliefs (Zionism) you hurt them as a race (Semites), they would insist that anti Zionism is in practice a form of anti Semitism. When you condemn their racist tendencies, they are transformed immediately into an innocent cultural identity (merely chicken soup consumers). When you criticise their exclusive cultural leanings, they then become a race again (it isn’t me it’s all down to my mother, she is Jewish, I am just a consequence of her racial belonging). But it goes further, when you scrutinise their racist and supremacist religious law (Talmud) they remind you that most of them are in fact secular (true by the way), but then, when you question their secular philosophy, they would immediately confess that, in fact, there is no such philosophy. You may push your luck and ask them what stands at the core of their ethnic belonging. A readymade answer would be given instantly: ‘it is Hitler rather than Moses who made us into J’s’. Hitler never asked for our religious beliefs, he killed us just for being J’s.’ When you remind them that Hitler is no longer with us, they would assure you that a new one is just about to be born. Basically you can never win. But neither can they. . . .

As it seems, they can neither win nor lose, Thus they are doomed to wander around engaging themselves in an endless metamorphosis. They move forward and backwards, from left to right, from right to left, from spirituality into materialism, from orthodox Marxism into hard capitalism. They are always at the cool side of game, when it was right to be a Socialist they were right there in the forefront of the Bolshevik revolution, now when it is hard capitalism that sets the tone, you read about them in the Wall Street Journal, they are the new prophets from Manhattan. Life is never boring for ‘J’ people. . . .

The only way to destroy Zionism, to dismantle ‘J’ power, is to embrace them to your heart, to make love to their ‘J spot’. To worship them exactly when they anticipate your ultimate aversion. Always overwhelm them with affection. A brief look into their history makes it very clear. By the time they were fully emancipated by their European host nations, they invented Zionism. When anti Semitism was thrown out of the window, it was the Zionists who reintroduced it. By the time Israel was praised by the world for its military success and murderous strategies, Zionism was in ruins. . . .

We must learn to accept everything they do. When they flatten a Palestinian village, rather than protesting, just look in their eyes and assure them that your love is unconditional. When they throw a bomb on a school in Gaza, just hold them close to your heart and express your sincere understanding. When their right wing American zealots take the West into war against Iraq, Syria or Iran just remind yourself that sooner or later peace will prevail. Don’t you ever forget, they are doing all those horrible things not because they are that horrifying, they just feel an urgent need to remind you that you really hate them. When you meet them in person you learn that they are not that vicious, they are just slightly immature beings due to the fact that they are not very competent in social life, they are born chosen. They live in a segregated mental ghetto. They never learned how to handle human company, they know very little about empathy. In the end of the day, they don’t live among others. They prefer to live alongside.

Love is the way to redeem the ‘J’ people and hopefully to save the world. It isn’t easy, some would even say that it is pretty impossible. But as sad as it may sound, love is the only weapon against those who are fuelled by negation.

And by the way, don’t you ever use the ‘J’ word.
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http://www.gilad.co.uk/html%20files/jspot.html

Making such blanket statements as "They are all such and such" rarely has any validity. He should say some or many rather than all, if he wants to be more accurate.
Raised as one I sometimes have rude things to say about Catholics and the Catholic Church, but one should never say all of them are a certain way.

he just overgeneralizes?

Let me repeat what he said, getting rid of his euphemism:

"Jews are the ultimate chameleons."

"As soon as you criticise the Jews' expansionist militant national beliefs (Zionism) you hurt them as a race (Semites), they would insist that anti Zionism is in practice a form of anti Semitism. When you condemn the Jews' racist tendencies, they are transformed immediately into an innocent cultural identity (merely chicken soup consumers). When you criticise the Jews' exclusive cultural leanings, they then become a race again (it isn’t me it’s all down to my mother, she is Jewish, I am just a consequence of her racial belonging). But it goes further, when you scrutinise the Jews' racist and supremacist religious law (Talmud) they remind you that most of them are in fact secular (true by the way), but then, when you question the Jews' secular philosophy, they would immediately confess that, in fact, there is no such philosophy. You may push your luck and ask them what stands at the core of the Jews' ethnic belonging. A readymade answer would be given instantly: ‘it is Hitler rather than Moses who made us into Jews. Hitler never asked for our religious beliefs, he killed us just for being Jews. When you remind them that Hitler is no longer with us, they would assure you that a new one is just about to be born. Basically you can never win. But neither can they. . . ."

" move forward and backwards, from left to right, from right to left, from spirituality into materialism, from orthodox Marxism into hard capitalism. are always at the cool side of game, when it was right to be a Socialist they were right there in the forefront of the Bolshevik revolution, now when it is hard capitalism that sets the tone, you read about them in the Wall Street Journal, they are the new prophets from Manhattan. Life is never boring for the Jews."

"The only way to destroy Zionism, to dismantle Jewish power, is to embrace them to your heart, to make love to their Jew spot. To worship them exactly when they anticipate your ultimate aversion. Always overwhelm them with affection. A brief look into their history makes it very clear. By the time they were fully emancipated by their European host nations"


"Don’t you ever forget, the Jews are doing all those horrible things not because they are that horrifying, the Jews just feel an urgent need to remind you that you really hate them. When you meet Jews in person you learn that they are not that vicious, they are just slightly immature beings due to the fact that they are not very competent in social life, Jews are born chosen. The Jews live in a segregated mental ghetto. The Jews never learned how to handle human company, the Jews know very little about empathy. In the end of the day, the Jews don’t live among others. The Jews prefer to live alongside."

You should've put that stuff in the Original Post. It goes much further in making him look like an overgeneralizing jerk.

However, the entire Aaronovitch article establishes pretty clearly that something is clearly rotten.

and the "truth" about the Gulf of Tonkin. (Altho as a kid I remember my parents and grandparents were always discussing politics - in those days before TV and the Web)

My initiation was about the time that Democratic politics and Progressive Politics were being molded by the "Great Events" of the era--

---Brown v. Board of education
---The "All Deliberate Speed" doctrine to school integration
---The Civil Rights Act of 1964
---The urban riots

And I was in a Progressive Club in a "changing neighborhood" in an urban community in the heart of the Rust Belt -- and the Northern Tip of Appalachia-- so these are my rules.

I now apply the "Post-Brown versus Board of Education" rules of political discourse to all appenders I come across..

What are the "Post-Brown versus Board of Education" rules of political discourse -- well they became demeaned as "Political Correctness" but in practice they meant that if you so much as raised an eye-brow over even the silliest demand -- you were drummed out of the Progressive Movement.

If you even chuckled over the demand of a tiny group of minority EMT students (a four month course - my Mom taught it) that they be awarded a "Doctor of Medicine" degree - you were read out of the Progressive Movement.

If you questioned why the ACLU was not lead in Bakke - you were thrown off of the ACLU Board (actually happened to a Law School Assistant Dean who "wrote the book on Section 1983.").

And one of the rules -- the target got to determine what was offensive.

By the standards of the "Post-Brown versus Board of Education" rules of political discourse, many appends on I/P are personally objectionable. I really don’t care who it is conflating who with who – I apply the Administrators’ Rules ("Proper Use of Certain Words") in accordance with the "Post-Brown versus Board of Education" rules of political discourse – including "Political Correctness" and "It’s Is The Target’s Call as to what is (Anti-Black, Anti-Hispanic, Anti-Asian, Anti-Jewish, Anti-Muslim, Anti-Female, Anti-Handicapper, Anti-Eastern European Ethnic, Anti-Catholic, whatever)."

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...everytime someone calls Israel for its crimes against the Palestinians. I don't give a rat's buttocks that Israel is a jewish state-- I'm an athiest, for crying out loud, what possible reason would I have for singling out jews for religious distaste? I opposed aparthied in SA and I oppose it in Israel. I opposed racial discrimination and religious persecution in the US and I oppose it in israel. I oppose the forced occupation of any state by another. I oppose land theft by annexation, no matter who does it.

Israel is an oppressive, racist regime that was founded largely on land stolen from displaced Palestinians, and which continues to oppress the Palestinian people as a matter of state policy. That's my beef with Israel-- if you want to interpret that as religious in nature then we will NEVER be able to have a constructive dialog because we're not even talking about the same things.

Or did you just wrongly assume I was equating criticism of Israeli policies with anti-Semitism?

...with "you can go sit with David Duke," who is an avowed anti-semite. Don't go all disingenuous-- you know precisely what I'm talking about. Opposing Israel or AIPAC because they're jews is anti-semitism. Opposing their state crimes or their support for those crimes is another matter entirely.

to control the world through a nefarious conspiracy.

Are Israelis abusing Palestinians? Absolutely.

Is there an international Jewish conspiracy to control the world? Only bigots and loons think so.

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It's not AIPAC. It's APIPAC - American Petroleum Institute PAC. Here's a link to API's and .

Who is the API - the American Petroleum Institute - the political voice of ExxonMobil, and TexacoChevron, and BP, and Shell, and Oxy, and Unocal, etc.

Who is the symphony conductor - , Bush I's Secretary of State and White House Chief of Staff, Ken Lay's Lawyer, Neal Bush's Lawyer (Silverado S&L), the House of Saud's lawyer, "Power Broker To The Oil Plutocrats and Oligarchs".

It's APIPAC - not AIPAC.

How do you like $60/bbl oil, and $2.59/gallon gasoline, and Corporate Average Fuel Economy unchanged since Jimmie Carter, and "The Hydrogen Economy" (an even bigger and sicker joke).

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But in 2004 I did get the e-mail from the American Petroleum Institute PAC - to "Back Bush."

"The world" is two nations? You seem to be as myopic as those who pretend to despise.

David 'I'm-not-a-neocon-so-stop-saying-that' Aaronovitch?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Or does the fact that George Galloway's buddies decided to give a platform to a Jew-hating idiot not disturb you?

attempt to rebut said 'points' will result
in an hilarious game of Watch-the-moving-goalpost.

As for Atzmon,he sounds like a fuckwit,but not a racist.

Here's the rest of the SWP statement;

'21 June 2005
Gilad Atzmon and Marxism 2005

There has been some controversy surrounding our invitation for the musician Gilad Atzmon to perform at Marxism 2005. One or two small groups are claiming that Gilad is an anti-Semite and Holocaust denier. We would like to state the following:

* Gilad Atzmon is an Israeli born Jew who served in the Israeli Defence Force and who now lives in “self-exile” in Britain.
* He is an internationally acclaimed jazz musician whose album Exile won BBC Best Jazz Album of 2003.

The SWP would also like to make it clear, that we would never give a platform to a racist or fascist. Our entire history has been one of fierce opposition to fascist organisations like the National Front and the British National Party. We played a prominent role in setting up the Anti Nazi League in the mid-1970s and Unite Against Fascism two years ago.

One of our members, Blair Peach, was killed on an anti-fascist demonstration in west London in 1979. Our founding member, Tony Cliff, was Jewish and, like many of his generation, lost many members of his family in the Holocaust. Nazis in the British National Party and National Front have targeted our members for attack. In the last three weeks we have helped initiate two vigils in response to anti-Semitic attacks on Jewish cemeteries in Manchester and east London. Across the country our members are involved in campaigns to defend asylum seekers, oppose police brutality and defend communities from scapegoating.

We have a record of opposing fascism, anti-Semitism and all forms of racism, that is second to none.

The SWP does not believe that Gilad Atzmon is a Holocaust denier or racist. However, while defending Gilad’s right to play and speak on public platforms that in no way means we endorse all of Gilad’s views. We think that some of the formulations on his website might encourage his readers to feel that he is blurring the distinction between anti-Semitism and anti Zionism. In fact we have publicly challenged and argued against those of his ideas we disagree with.'

http://www.swp.org.uk/gilad.php

By inviting this racist wanker on stage, the SWP forfeits any right to describe itself as against bigotry.

I don't know about you, but when I see someone circulating Holocaust denial material and the work of other notorious anti-semites, I think "Jew-hating creep."


See this writing of his:

"Jews are the ultimate chameleons. As soon as you criticise the Jews' expansionist militant national beliefs (Zionism) you hurt them as a race (Semites), they would insist that anti Zionism is in practice a form of anti Semitism. When you condemn the Jews' racist tendencies, they are transformed immediately into an innocent cultural identity (merely chicken soup consumers). When you criticise the Jews' exclusive cultural leanings, they then become a race again (it isn’t me it’s all down to my mother, she is Jewish, I am just a consequence of her racial belonging). But it goes further, when you scrutinise the Jews' racist and supremacist religious law (Talmud) they remind you that most of them are in fact secular (true by the way), but then, when you question the Jews' secular philosophy, they would immediately confess that, in fact, there is no such philosophy. You may push your luck and ask them what stands at the core of the Jews' ethnic belonging. A readymade answer would be given instantly: ‘it is Hitler rather than Moses who made us into Jews. Hitler never asked for our religious beliefs, he killed us just for being Jews. When you remind them that Hitler is no longer with us, they would assure you that a new one is just about to be born. Basically you can never win. But neither can they. . . ."

" move forward and backwards, from left to right, from right to left, from spirituality into materialism, from orthodox Marxism into hard capitalism. The Jews are always at the cool side of game, when it was right to be a Socialist they were right there in the forefront of the Bolshevik revolution, now when it is hard capitalism that sets the tone, you read about them in the Wall Street Journal, they are the new prophets from Manhattan. Life is never boring for the Jews."

"The only way to destroy Zionism, to dismantle Jewish power, is to embrace them to your heart, to make love to their Jew spot. To worship them exactly when they anticipate your ultimate aversion. Always overwhelm them with affection. A brief look into their history makes it very clear. By the time they were fully emancipated by their European host nations"

"Don’t you ever forget, the Jews are doing all those horrible things not because they are that horrifying, the Jews just feel an urgent need to remind you that you really hate them. When you meet Jews in person you learn that they are not that vicious, they are just slightly immature beings due to the fact that they are not very competent in social life, Jews are born chosen. The Jews live in a segregated mental ghetto. The Jews never learned how to handle human company, the Jews know very little about empathy. In the end of the day, the Jews don’t live among others. The Jews prefer to live alongside."

He's every bit as anti-semitic and racist as your local BNP representative.

He seems to have gone over to the the extreme end of apostasy.
You have to wonder what he is so pissed off about.
Is that a translation, or did he write that in English?

http://www.gilad.co.uk/html%20files/jspot.html

He links to Israel Shamir, which is more than enough for me.

was outraged over the Israeli treatment of the Palestinians, and let that outrage consume him until he rejected not only the occupation, but Israel and Jews/Judaism as well.

If you think he's comparable to the BNP,who,
thankfully aren't active nr me,you're not aware
of the hate-mongering of the BNP.

The BNP are actual fascists,neo-nazis,holocaust deniers,
& racists. I think if you really believe that Atzmon is
comparable,or in anyway similar,you're not aware of the
antics of the BNP.

Searchlight magazine on the BNP;

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The BNP jackboot: from theory to thuggery

The BNP's racism is its most public expression of bigotry. However, what distinguishes the BNP as a fascist organisation is its fusion of nationalism, anti-communism, anti-rationality and crucially antisemitism and racism. The fact that its entire world view is refracted through the prism of antisemitism and race distinguishes it from all legitimate political parties. Yes, the other political parties have racists in them, they even pass racist immigration laws, but they don't reduce everything to race. This was the Nazi contribution to European fascism - where race is all. This makes the BNP not only a fascist party but a nazi one.

Having said that, it would be a mistake to get hung up on the "theory". Fascist theory, such as it is, is a mish-mash of racism mixed with socialist rhetoric, unper-turbed by its internal irrationality because rationality isn't considered to be a virtue anyway. For fascists what is important is racist intuition and "action".

What this "action" means in practice is plain to see in the form of the violence and intimidation that it metes out to its political opponents, who are often white trade unionists or other political activists.

Violence is endemic to fascism, even among those such as the BNP who are going for respectability and trying their utmost to shake off the skinhead boot boy image in favour of suits and electioneering. While the BNP avoids public clashes with anti-fascists so that it can keep a clean image, out of the public eye its activists intimidate and attack their opponents. During the local election campaign in May 2003 these incidents occurred in so many places across the country that they demonstrated how coordinated the campaign was.

A key part of the BNP's campaign of intimidation is the Redwatch internet site where details of the BNP's are opponents are published so that they can be lined up for physical attack. BNP activists and organisers regularly pass information to the website, which is linked to Combat 18, and threaten anti-fascists with putting their details on it. Several BNP activists, including Tony Wentworth, the Young BNP organiser, have taken photographs that later appeared on the Redwatch site. '

http://www.stopthebnp.org.uk/index.php?location=election&link=BNP36.htm

view is "slightly different." He promotes a virulent Jew-hater named Israel Shamir, a Swedish fascist who pretends to be a Russian ex-Jew.

Also, read the filth of his that I posted on this thread.

It very well could have been written by Lord Mosely or David Duke or Joseph Goebbels.

Like this, for instance:

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c. Zionists are not happy at all with the recycling of some old 'Anti-Semitic slogans and images'. They are especially annoyed when they are blamed for the death of Jesus. (I am referring here to the Jewish American organisations' reaction to Mel Gibson's The Passion. Many people around the world regarded the Israeli siege of the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem as an attempt to kill Jesus 'again'.)

I would suggest that perhaps we should face it once and for all: the Jews were responsible for the killing of Jesus who, by the way, was himself a Palestinian Jew. But then two questions should be asked:

1. How is it that people living today feel accountable or chased for a crime committed by their great great great ancestors almost 2,000 years ago? I assume that those Jews who get angry when blamed for killing Jesus are those who identify themselves with Jesus's killers. Those who would commit this murderous act today.
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In Atzmon's view, the only Jews who don't like being called Christ-killers are Christ-killers.

He's BNP material all the way. And the SWP is giving him a platform.

The "No Platform!" policy is dead, as is the SWP's principled opposition to racism and bigotry.

'He's BNP material all the way.'

Isn't Atzmon Jewish?

:think:

The BNP make Atzmon look like an amateur in their
anti-semitism - it really is absurd to try & compare
the two.

You're really not helping yer case (in my opinion) if
you're saying that Atzmon's idiocy is comparable to
the British Neonazi Party.

The BNP don't just talk it,they walk it,ie they're thugs.

Because the evidence, i.e. his own filthy, bigoted words, overwhelmingly demonstrates that he is one.

which'll be a shame,'cos he gets 4-star reviews;


' Jazz CD
Gilad Atzmon, Musik - Rearranging the 20th Century

(Enja)

John Fordham
Friday October 8, 2004
The Guardian

With last year's Exile album, expatriate Israeli reed virtuoso Gilad Atzmon cemented his reputation as a dominant figure in European and Middle Eastern-influenced world-music. The disc was an evocative flight across the music of Palestine, Romania, Israel, Britain and Italy, with American jazz still powering its engine. It also featured the spine-tingling sound of the Palestinian singer Reem Kelani.

This set similarly draws on many cultures, and is fired by Atzmon's campaigning urge to resist the globalisation of musical taste. Kelani is absent, but Argentinian singer Guillermo Rozenthuler opens a different window on Latin-American sounds for Atzmon, and Robert Wyatt makes a memorable guest appearance to furnish an idiosyncratic link to jazz in explaining how the devil got the best tunes: "In the beginning there was the bird and the bird was bop/ That's bebop, short for Beelzebop."

Rozenthuler's sad-cafe song draws you into something like an Almodóvar soundtrack, bursts of frantic tango open with Atzmon in wedding-party mood, but turning ever more Coltrane-like on soprano. Forlornly romantic slow dances against sighing string ensembles are elbowed aside by diversions into Roll Out the Barrel (full of cop-siren sounds from Atzmon's sax, and roaring abstract street-noise), Mac the Knife, a collective New Orleans-like jam, slow and spookily atmospheric clarinet against reverberating low drones, and a whooping account of Lili Marlene against edgily metronomic drums. Jumpier, a little more indulgent of Atzmon's literary side, and a little less resolved in shape than Exile, but the work of an independent and unruly spirit still in turbulent evolution. '

http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/critic/review/0,1169,1322124,00.html

:)

Like Bobby Fischer.

That said, I'd never let a dime of mine go to a repulsive tool like Atzmon.

One of our neo-Nazi revivalists over here (his name escapes my recollection at the moment, but he was the one who promoted the notorious march to Skokie some years back) turned out to have a Jewish parent....

name, this should hardly come as a shock.

He's shockingly ignorant about Israelis.

A few charmers:





This is after he claims there is no difference between Tel Aviv and West Bank settlements, describes how Hitler developed his anti-semitism from Jewish writings, and pretty much lays out a plan intended to bring about (or hasten, since he thinks it's inevitable) Israel's collapse.

http://www.gilad.co.uk/html%20files/mistakes.html



http://www.gilad.co.uk/html%20files/sitinthedark.html



http://www.gilad.co.uk/html%20files/yassin.html

Then there's this: http://www.gilad.co.uk/html%20files/jspot.html, mentioned above.

And so on.

Bastards.

I wonder what they think about this comment:

http://www.aljazeerah.info/Opinion%20editorials/2004%20opinions/October/19%20o/On%20Anti-Semitism%20By%20Gilad%20Atzmon.htm

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a. The 'Elders of Zion' syndrome: Zionists complain that Jews continue to be associated with a conspiracy to rule the world via political lobbies, media and money.

Is the suggestion of conspiracy really an empty accusation? The following list is presented with pride in several Jewish American websites.

Jews in Bush's Administration:

Ari Fleischer White House Press Secretary

Josh Bolten Deputy Chief of Staff

Ken Melman White House Political Director

David Frum Speechwriter

Brad Blakeman White House Director of Scheduling

Dov Zakheim Undersecretary of Defense (Controller)

Paul Wolfowitz Deputy Secretary of Defense

I. Lewis Libby Chief of Staff to the Vice President

Adam Goldman White House Liaison to the Jewish Community

Chris Gersten Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary, Administration for Children and Families at HHS

Elliott Abrams Director of the National Security Council's Office for Democracy, Human Rights and International Operations

Mark D. Weinberg Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Public Affairs

Douglas Feith Under Secretary of Defense for Policy

Michael Chertoff Head of the Justice Department's criminal division

Daniel Kurtzer Ambassador to Israel

Cliff Sobel Ambassador to the Netherlands

Stuart Bernstein Ambassador to Denmark

Nancy Brinker Ambassador to Hungary

Frank Lavin Ambassador to Singapore

Ron Weiser Ambassador to Slovakia

Mel Sembler Ambassador to Italy

Martin Silverstein Ambassador to Uruguay

Jay Lefkowitz Deputy Assistant to the President and Director of the Domestic Policy Council

Let me assure you, in Clinton's administration the situation was even worse. Even though the Jews only make up 2.9 per cent of the country's population, an astounding 56 per cent of Clinton's appointees were Jews. A coincidence? I don't think so.

We have to ask ourselves what motivates American Jews to gain such political power. Is it a genuine care for American interests? Soon, following the growing number of American casualties in Iraq, American people will start to ask themselves this very question.

Since America currently enjoys the status of the world's only super power and since all the Jews listed above declare themselves as devoted Zionists, we must begin to take the accusation that the Jewish people are trying to control the world very seriously. It is beyond doubt that Zionists, the most radical, racist and nationalistic Jews around, have already managed to turn America into an Israeli mission force. The world's number one super power is there to support the Jewish state's wealth and security matters. The one-sided pro-Zionist take on the Israeli­Palestinian conflict, the American veto against every 'anti-Israeli' UN resolution, the war against Iraq and now the militant intentions against Syria, all prove beyond doubt that it is Zionist interests that America is serving. American Jewry makes any debate on whether the 'Protocols of the elder of Zion' are an authentic document or rather a forgery irrelevant. American Jews do try to control the world, by proxy. So far they are doing pretty well for themselves at least. Whether the Americans enjoy the deterioration of their state's affairs will no doubt be revealed soon.
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c. Zionists are not happy at all with the recycling of some old 'Anti-Semitic slogans and images'. They are especially annoyed when they are blamed for the death of Jesus. (I am referring here to the Jewish American organisations' reaction to Mel Gibson's The Passion. Many people around the world regarded the Israeli siege of the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem as an attempt to kill Jesus 'again'.)

I would suggest that perhaps we should face it once and for all: the Jews were responsible for the killing of Jesus who, by the way, was himself a Palestinian Jew. But then two questions should be asked:

1. How is it that people living today feel accountable or chased for a crime committed by their great great great ancestors almost 2,000 years ago? I assume that those Jews who get angry when blamed for killing Jesus are those who identify themselves with Jesus's killers. Those who would commit this murderous act today.
<snip>

B-I-G-O-T. It is completely dishonest to pretend otherwise.

http://www.gilad.co.uk/html%20files/Londonelders.html

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n a very small segregated cyber shtetl somewhere in the north-west side of yahoo (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/justpeaceuk/ ), a tiny cell of so-called ‘liberal’ Jews meets in the wee small hours. Night after night they are trying to save the Palestinian people from those who devote their lives to the Palestinian cause. There is one man who they really detest; his name is Israel Shamir ( http://www.israelshamir.net/ ). An ex-Jew, Shamir is a very civil and peaceful man and probably is the sharpest critical voice of ‘Jewish power’ and Zionist ideology.
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We shall start with what is the authentic voice of the Marxist Tony Greenstein. Greenstein suggests that “anti-Zionist Jews, maybe under the banner of Return or JAZ, should sign an open letter to the PLO/PSC etc. insisting that they categorically repudiate Shamir and all his works and calling on Deir Yassin Remembered to break its links. What is important is that those Jews who sign are seen, without any qualification or equivocation, to be opposed to Zionism root and branch AND opposed to Shamir”. (Tony Greenstein)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JustPeaceUK/message/15068

Reading those lines by Greenstein, I wonder whether I am allowed to guess that ‘anti-Zionist Jews’ are basically a bunch of ‘Just Peace UK’ (a left Zionist group). If this is the case we should never take JAZ seriously again. If this is the case, Jews Against Zionism are operating as undercover Zionist agents. If true, and I still suspect it, it is very disappointing but not really surprising.
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In Atzmon's view, opposing a virulent racist like Israel Shamir (a Swedish fascist who pretends to be a Russian ex-Jew) makes one a Zionist stooge.

http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=6472

Comrade Aaronovitch Strikes Again
'Former' Stalinist is up to his old tricks
by Justin Raimondo

David Aaronovitch, formerly a Communist Party youth leader and now the freshest shoot in Britain's bumper crop of Blairite neocons, tried to smear me once before, and I dealt with him here. The Stalinist school of falsification never sleeps, however: its practitioners just keep churning out lies, in the hope that sheer repetition will do the job. So Comrade Aaronovitch is up to his old tricks again, writing now in the Times of London, wherein he pens a screed ostensibly directed against the decision of Britain's Socialist Workers Party to invite one Gilad Atzmon to its "Marxism 2005 festival." Atzmon is an Israeli-born IDF veteran who is now an expatriate jazz musician – and an outspoken opponent of Zionism. So outspoken that he routinely suggests that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is "irrelevant," because, after all, in his view, "American Jews do try to control the world, by proxy. So far they are doing pretty well for themselves at least." Brought up in a right-wing ultra-Zionist family, Atzmon appears so enamored of his own ability to provoke that he has lost sight of either truth or common sense. This often happens to people who rebel against an orthodoxy: they go in the extreme opposite direction and wind up becoming a caricature of themselves.

In his piece for the Times, Aaronovitch points out that one of Atzmon's "heroes" is a writer named Israel Shamir, who "claims to be a Russian Jew from Jaffa," but is apparently a "Swedish anti-Semite" of indeterminate ethnicity. Having set the stage for his smear, with all this elaborate linkage, Comrade Aaronovitch moves in for the kill:

"Shamir both buys the world plot and has some very strange allies. 'For as long,' he wrote, 'as Richard Perle sits in the Pentagon, Elie Wiesel brandishes his Nobel Prize, Mort Zuckerman owns the USA Today, Gusinsky bosses over Russian TV, Soros commands multi-billions of funds, and Dershowitz teaches at Harvard, we need the voices of (David) Duke, (Justin) Raimondo, (Pat) Buchanan, (Horst) Mahler, (Nick) Griffin and of other anti-bourgeois nationalists.' For those who don't know, Mahler is ex-Baader Meinhof turned neo-Nazi, David Duke is a former leader of Ku Klux Klan, and Nick Griffin is our very own Welshpool Duce."

When I read this nonsense – a prime example of the Stalinist smear technique of making an amalgam out of disparate elements – I wondered: Who the heck is Israel Shamir? I Googled him, and one of the first items I came up with were articles attacking… me! In a piece entitled "Justin Raimondo Does Not Go Far Enough," Shamir writes:
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This passage demonstrates two things about Shamir: (1) He knows nothing about me or my views, and (2) he knows nothing about the American antiwar movement, which consists of a large number of Jews as well as Catholics and nonbelievers. I never supported Kerry, or thought his election would change U.S. policy for the better in the Middle East, and support for that war within the administration had nothing to do with putting Jews in an "exalted position," but everything to do with putting the nation-state of Israel in such a position. That Shamir doesn't make any distinction between these two very different motives is what makes him an anti-Semite and sets him very far apart not only from my own views but from the broad antiwar movement as well. Shamir goes on to berate me:
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doesn't actually counter anything the original piece said about Atzmon; the writer just tries to prove he's not associated with Shamir, which wasq a very incidentel point in the OP (Raimondo is referred to in a single entence in passing).

Raimondo doesn't have anything positive to say about Atzmon.

But does have something to say about Aaronovitch rhetorical tactics
especial when it came to smearing him by associating him with
people he finds reprehensible.

I don't have anything positive to say about Atzmon other
than he is a good musician.

proves is that even the most virulent critics of Israel, so long as they're not bigots, are offended to be included with the likes of Shamir, Eisen, Atzmon, etc.

Which raises the question: Why have the SWP leadership given a prominent platform to this racist bozo for three consecutive years?

But I would ask you to remember that many members of the SWP (and I am not a member, before anyone asks or implies or concludes) have condemned this, that many other far-leftists have condemned this, and the the UK left in general is appalled at this. Here is a link to a condemnation of Atzmon by Jews against Zionism, for example:

http://jewssansfrontieres.blogspot.com/2005/06/now-thats-what-i-call-jaz.html

on edit: I find it surreal that some people want so badly to defend Atzmon. The fact that accusations of anti-semitism are often used to smear progressive anti-Zionists just means that we must condemn true anti-semitism all the more strongly, because the point is that the left does know the difference, does know that there is a line in the sand, and knows precisely which side of that line it wants to be on.

It's not like Atzmon's bigotry has been concealed or made "off the record."

they made a serious error of judgement. As I say, no leftist should spend any time at all defending this.

"It was easy."

He's simply a scumbag of the first order. Mercifully however the SWP - despite it's own boundless pretensions - does not by any stretch of the imagination speak for the British radical left as a whole. But it's mind bogling that ANY supposedly left-wing group would involve themselves with this individual.