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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 10:53 AM
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Egyptian analysts blame Israel for Sharm el-Sheikh terror attacks
Less than 24 hours after terrorists killed at least 88 people in attacks on the Sinai resort town of Sharm el- Sheikh, Egyptian sources claimed that Israel was responsible for the deadly bombings.

The claims were apparently based on the fact that most of the victims were Egyptian nationals.

Egyptian media analysts, sources in Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood and Egyptian parliamentarian Ala Hasnin, in an interview with the Qatar-based Al-Jazeera television network, all suggested Israel was responsible for the attacks.

One Egyptian analyst interviewed by Al-Jazeera said that is was in Israel's interest to carry out such a terror attack and thus Jerusalem was thus responsible for Saturday's bombings.

The Egyptian analyst also added that Israel wants undermine its own disengagement plan - yet another reason, he said, to carry out attacks in Egypt.

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/603652.html
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 10:58 AM
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1. didn't an al Qaeda affiliatie take responsibility for the attacks?
Before they did, I will confess that I thought disgruntled Israeli settlers may have been beind the bombings, in a sort of retaliation for having to leave Gaza. But since a non-Israeli group has claimed responsibility, I've discounted my idea. However, realize what a shock it must be to Egyptians to think that al Qaeda might be targeting Muslims. They can't wrap their thoughts around the idea, and so they look to their old enemies as the culprits. When they finally realize who is really behind the bombings,things will be clearer. And if it does indeed turn out to be al Qaeda, they may begin questioning what al Qaeda's true aims are in the Middle East.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:04 AM
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2. it is total bullshit
maybe a more likely a more like group would be those that want to overthrow mubarak

this is the same crap they did after 9/11, saying "no Jews" were killed because they were warned not to go to work

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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:10 AM
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3. Not out of the realm of possibility...
What do really know for sure about the Mid-East.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:18 AM
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4. And what makes you say its in the realm of possibilities?
what history of attacking egyptian resorts by israelis leads you to think that?
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Monkie Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:37 AM
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5. i will start with one example: a israeli "false flag" terrorist attack
False flag operations are covert operations conducted by governments, corporations, or other organizations, which are designed to appear as if they are being carried out by other entities.

"example of a false flag operation was the 1954 Lavon Affair, when Egyptian Jews recruited by Mossad firebombed a post office building and United States Information Services libraries at consulates in Cairo and Alexandria in an attempt to discredit the Egyptian government and disrupt British plans to withdraw from the Suez Canal. When one of the bombs exploded prematurely, the Egyptian police captured one of the bombers and soon afterwards the rest of the agents. The Israeli Defense Minister Pinchas Lavon was eventually forced to resign."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag

i can elaborate if you wish :)
but "realm of possibilities"
and "what history of attacking egyptian resorts by israelis leads you to think that?"
has been establised...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 01:18 PM
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 08:48 PM
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20. Follow the oil...
or in this case, BIG GAS!

PA, Egypt do gas deal without Israel

Someone here keeps ranting about how the energy concerns are at the root of all ME problems. But I'm sure we will all be treated to an explanation as to how it's no longer the case.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 09:58 PM
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22. Thank you.
Edited on Sat Jul-23-05 10:03 PM by Coastie for Truth
Natural gas is about as fungible as a commodity gets. More fungible then oil. (no sulfur or viscosity, or cyclic/alkane issues). It is traded on commodity markets.

Hopefully the revenue from this deal will be returned to the Palestinian people for services and infrastructure and investment - and not line the pockets of the power elites (as happened with crude oil).

I have posted on LNG issues --

Please explain how you are connecting the dots this time.

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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 12:58 AM
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24. Let me see if I can make this simpler...
uuummmm.......
















































nope, I can't...sorry.
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Colorado Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 10:29 PM
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23. Oh, give us a break already.
I am so damned tired of this sort of thing. It was old hat in the 14th century and to see it on a 21st century "progressive" website is nauseating.
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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 11:51 AM
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6. Hey, I don't rule out the US. or Britain either.
After the last five years, maybe the West has concluded they need to fight this way. The point is-you can't jump to conclusions.
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 12:11 PM
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7. Tamil Tigers
Edited on Sat Jul-23-05 12:12 PM by pelsar
i've been doing quite a bit of reading about Sri Lanka and it seems that the timal tigers are pretty pissed that al quida has taken over the fame of the suicide bombers....so its pretty obviouse that the timal tigers are behind this one....
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 01:09 PM
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9. Kennedy assassination
I always felt that LBJ was behind it -- working with the CIA and Nixon.

And the "Specter Single Bullet Theory" of the Kennedy Assassination - Kramer demolished that on "Seinfeld."
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 01:06 PM
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8. Michigander3 is right
By the laws of Statistcal Thermodynamics one could suffocate in a room full of air because, it is statistically possible for all of the oxygen molecules to collect in one tiny corner of the room -- leaving behind nitrogen molecules.
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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 08:57 PM
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21. very funny
But, how do you explain WTC 7 falling down in its own footprint and the lack of air defense at the Pentagon. Why would anyone trust this administration on anything.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 01:23 PM
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11. No surprise
I am sure there are plenty of people who think it was Israel's fault...if not in deed, then by default. Just add it to the list of all the evils of the world, where Israel is at the top. I mean, really, there is no way it could have been militant Islamists? :eyes:
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Monkie Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 01:36 PM
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12. in this case i think its pretty obvious its most likely to be militant
islamic terrorists.Thats a no-brainer?
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 02:11 PM
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13. Islamic Terrorists?
I find that hard to believe. You sound almost paranoid.

Maybe those 88 dead tourists wished they looked under their bed. They might have found " a crazy wide eyed islamic terrorist with a bomb strapped to his body." (your words,not mine)


Here...have some fun with this....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/09/05/wosse605.xml
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 02:46 PM
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15. OMT......2,000 Islamic Radicals Rally in Pakistan
Edited on Sat Jul-23-05 02:49 PM by drdon326
More than 2,000 supporters of a coalition of radical Muslim groups rallied Friday in the Pakistani capital to condemn a crackdown on Islamic militants that has netted more than 200 suspects.

Chanting "God is great," and "Down with America," the protesters _ mostly Islamic students and members of a coalition known as Mutahida Majlis-e-Amal, or United Action Forum _ marched on a main road in Islamabad, briefly clashed with police, and demanded the release of all detainees.


There were no reports of violence at rallies elsewhere in the country, where hundreds of Islamic radicals also protested the crackdown on mosques and offices of outlawed groups that followed the July 7 suicide bombings in London.

Authorities say their aim is to purge the country of extremism.

Earlier, Hafiz Hussain Ahmad, a senior leader of the coalition, said the government has arrested a large number of innocent people to appease Western countries. He said no terrorists were arrested in the raids on Islamic schools, or madrassas, and mosques, and demanded the release of all detainees.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/22/AR2005072201349.html

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Maybe they should form a union and file a greivence.


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Monkie Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 03:04 PM
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16. pakistan is a military dictatorship?One of the USA's failed puppet states
Edited on Sat Jul-23-05 03:06 PM by Monkie
"Significantly, Sheikh is also the man who, on the instructions of General Mahmoud Ahmed, the then head of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), wired $100,000 before the 9/11 attacks to Mohammed Atta, the lead hijacker. It is extraordinary that neither Ahmed nor Sheikh have been charged and brought to trial on this count. Why not?
~snip~ (edit to denote i "snipped" from original)
With CIA backing, the ISI has developed, since the early 1980s, into a parallel structure, a state within a state, with staff and informers estimated by some at 150,000. It wields enormous power over all aspects of government. The case of Ahmed confirms that parts of the ISI directly supported and financed al-Qaida, and it has long been established that the ISI has acted as go-between in intelligence operations on behalf of the CIA."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1266520,00.html

why should i believe a WORD that comes out of the mouth of the pakistani government?or the american government for that matter?
sure..they hate us for their freedoms in Pakistan those millitant extremists
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 03:17 PM
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17. Yes, youre right.
thanks.
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