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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:36 AM
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Myspace Hacked by Anti-Bush Hacker
Has anybody posted a thread about this yet? Most of the profiles you go to visit will redirect you to this page

http://myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=93634373&blogID=144877075

that has a link to the Loose Change 9-11 video and a message about what really happened September 11.

Funny! A lot of people are plenty mad about it, some people are cheering it on.

If it's happened to your profile, just sign in and edit the "About Me" section.

~*Peace*~
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:40 AM
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1. My only problem with this is that I think Loose Change is shit.
Other than that, if it's anti-shit-for-brains it's okay by me.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:42 AM
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2. why? I'd really like to know. n/t
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:48 AM
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7. There are aspects of 9/11 that are simply beyond reasonable speculation.
The film boarders on being a Roswell deal. We would all be much better served had they focused their attention on matters related to how 9/11 was used to expedite the war in Iraq.
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otokogi Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:52 AM
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9. care to cite them
sounds like an anti democratic stance to me to silence debate
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:58 AM
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11. The list is long and the retelling is embarrassing.
But for the sake of argument, the part where it wasn't a plane that crashed into the pentagon, the part where they hid explosives in the WTC that really brought it down.

Look, discuss it all you want, just like Roswell, but do it as a hobby. It serves no practical purpose.
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otokogi Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:19 AM
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15. WTC7
is a clear example of CD (controlled demolition), imho which no official story explains at all.

CD is certainly a likely explanation and i doubt al qaeda has that kind of capability.

i for one am very glad (1 percent club) to see the public discussion spreading.
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FujiZ1 Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:21 AM
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17. I agree.
If loose change is bullshit fine by me so long as there was public discourse about the topic.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:22 AM
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18. The problem with conspiracies...
is the lack of proof.

:eyes:
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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:48 AM
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25. Proof?
There's so much proof it drives me crazy. Sometimes I think the only proof that a lot of people would ever accept would be an outright confession from *
A lot of blinders on.

I thought this was a very good video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iswVPEZvFZM
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 11:10 AM
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26. Lack of proof? How much do you need? The plane parts that were
displayed by the government to "prove" that it was a commercial jet liner, were not from a commercial jet. They even went to the trouble of identifying which plane they were from and showed them side-by-side with the parts they said they were, and it isn't even close.
How many engineers and physicists have to show and tell you why the physical results of the attack cannot be accounted for by the official story? How many outright lies have to be proved for you to open your mind enough to look?

And speaking of proof of conspiracies, are you familiar with the Jekyll Island Meeting? They took minutes outlining the meeting the process to reach consensus of how the conspiracy was to be carried out and by whom, and those minutes were published, and the actions decided were taken immediately afterward. Do you doubt that it happened? Gulf of Tonken? Federal Reserve Act? Iran-Contra? How many would be enough? Is there any number, or evidence, that will convince you that conspiracies do happen? Have in fact, created the world we live in today?
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 11:58 AM
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28. You mean like the lack of proof for the Official Conspiracy Theory?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:36 AM
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23. I'll give you WTC7, but first you would have to explain
why and how only WTC7. This kind of stuff is like the hemp movement, serious support for important matters melts away when these things enter the discussion.
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otokogi Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:40 AM
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24. thats the point
it wasn't just WTC7... the towers fell in their own foot-prints as well
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 06:54 AM
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31. none of the towers
fell in their own footprints. go look at the damage to surrounding buildings. look how WTC 1 and 2 falling damaged the world financial center, WTC 7, etc.

go read up on how long it takes to wire a building for controlled demolition (Weeks) and what needs to be done to the building for it to occur.


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Show_Me _The_Truth Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 11:16 AM
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27. And that sounds
Like an anti logic stance to silence any calls for you to make any concrete statements or show any proof.

All calls for concrete statements about what happened and proof aside from wild assertions that all the networks were in on it and superimposed planes crashing into the WTC are met iwth catalls of Fundie, Bushbot, etc.

SO who really is trying to quell the debate?

Wait for it........
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 02:51 PM
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29. 911Research has a good list
"Sifting for Gold in Loose Change . . . "

http://911research.wtc7.net/materials/supplements/loosechange.html

I'm looking forward to Loose Change 3. LC2 gets the issues into
public discussion; maybe LC3 focusses on better-selected issues.
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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:44 AM
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3. Oops, that fix doesn't work
I changed mine and it was working for a while, now it's back to redirecting again.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:44 AM
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4. Finally!
why should all the repug hackers have all the fun? :popcorn:

:evilgrin:

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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:45 AM
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5. I couldn't resist the opportunity...
I posted THIS in the comments section...

I'm sick of listening to the lies. I'm sick of reading the lies. I'm sick of trying to refute the lies.

Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11. Saddam and OBL hated each other. Saddam was an asshole, but there are a LOT of assholes out there.

Telling the truth is not treasonous. It's telling the truth. Something more politicians should try now and again.

The "liberal" media is anything but liberal. It's beholden to the advertisers, who have their OWN fucking agenda. It's entertainment, and not even GOOD entertainment. It's not remotely connected to the truth anymore. It's all about ratings, and ratings are all about commercials, and commercials are all about corporate advertising. It's a no brainer.

People need the help of their community to succeed. There's no such thing as bootstrap levitation. No man or woman is an island, and without community support, people are lost...or crawl off into the woods to mail letter-bombs.

Everyone deserves decent healthcare, and socialized medicine actually works! The ONLY flaw in the system at that point is if fewer people can afford to become doctors because they go into debt trying to pay their way through medical school on student loans.

What part of "you can't fight an enemy you can't even identify" don't these people get? Not all Iraqis, Arabs, or Muslims are the enemy. The enemy is a mindset--and it's the same goddam mindset our current government seems to embrace. Violence is rarely an answer to anything without sincere attempts at diplomacy and compromise to go along with it.

People who've never been to war should not be allowed to play army with REAL SOLDIERS.

Gay marriage is only a threat to people who don't understand that marriage is a partnership, not a ownership contract.

The PEOPLE own themselves--their bodies and souls do not belong to the State, their employers, their church, or anyone else.

Freedom of speech is sacrosanct. Mess with it at your peril.

We OWN the government. Not the other way around.

You can oppose abortion or effective birth control and sex education. Pick one.

If I want to hear about Jesus, I'll ask.

Higher wages for the lowest classes means more money to spend. More money for the upper classes means LESS money spent. Which do you really think stimulates the economy?

Marx called religion "the opiate of the masses." These days in America, it's probably sports. Religion is more like a hullucinogen.

"Don't do drugs. Except these. And these. And these. And these."

"Alternative energy is a pipe dream." Yeah, kinda like the moon landing.

"America. Love it or leave it." You first.

The Death Penalty is retroactive abortion.

If this administration gave a SHIT about education, they'd fund it. Talk is cheap. Education isn't.

People shouldn't have to go deep in debt just to become more productive members of society.

Minimum wage jobs do not contribute to the tax base.

A stellar teacher is worth a hundred times more than a sports star. It would be nice if they made even a tenth of the salary.

A tiny fraction of the population is getting a free ride on everyone else's labor. And complaining about everyone else while they're getting it. Must be nice.

"Freedom isn't free." As soon as someone explains to me how killing and dying in a dusty place across the ocean contributes to OUR freedom, I might be inclined to agree. Near as I can tell, with illegal wiretapping, illicit surveillance, and 'free speech zones,' we're paying one hell of a high price for increased restrictions on freedom. Tyranny isn't free either, apparently.

What makes some people think big business is more benevolent than 'big government?' Were they repeatedly dropped on their heads when they were little?

Okay, I agree with you. Bush isn't stupid. He's just an asshole. Feel better?

If unscrupulous employers didn't HIRE illegal immigrants, they wouldn't be rushing the borders. Who do you think's really to blame? People who will risk everything to have a better life, or those who already have everything but want cheap labor to exploit so they can have more?

The political divide in this country will never be healed as long as people like Ann Coulter are running around spewing shit. Maybe if she actually ate something once in a while she wouldn't be so damned nasty all the time.

Hey, if the CEO of Pollution Inc. wants to take a crap in the corner of his own living room, that's okay with me. But the minute he tries to crap in my house, I'm going to smack him in the head with a big stick. I don't care WHO his friends are.

I'd rather be friends with a spotted owl than an ignorant logger.

I'm more worried about Grand Theft America than Grand Theft Auto. Call me crazy.

I don't know if this administration had anything to do with 9/11. But I do know they've screwed up just about everything they'd done since. I've never seen any bunch of people more deserving of walking papers in my entire life. And I've worked with some real losers.

If we're depending on the Supreme Court to defend the Constitution, we are in some DEEP shit.

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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:50 AM
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8. I can't even get through to the comments
I think a lot of them are coming in all at the same time.

:P
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DianaForRussFeingold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:08 AM
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12. Great post, I would reccommend it for greatest page!
Here is one more, If you think the Economy is so good, why not invest in it! I wish someone would ask Cheney this ???http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1642021
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otokogi Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:47 AM
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6. great way to get the word out
:evilgrin:
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 12:58 AM
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10. Oh for cripes sake.
Edited on Sun Jul-16-06 01:05 AM by drm604
Nobody should commit this kind of illegal act, but if somebody was going to do it I wish they would have pointed it at something real like RFK Jr's Rolling Stone article on election fraud and not this Loose Change nonsense. :eyes:

In any case, if you read the comments it doesn't look like he's achieving anything except pissing people off.
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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:12 AM
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13. Don't see why you call it nonsense
I wish he/she would have posted something shorter and more concise, but I think this is good viewing. I learned some things I didn't know before.
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FujiZ1 Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:19 AM
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14. I love this guy!~
Edited on Sun Jul-16-06 01:28 AM by FujiZ1
This guy is simply doing the same thing television, or msm does, he's just being honest about it.
Btw, myspace is owned by the same people who own fox (technicalities oh my goodness). =P
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:25 AM
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19. No, its not owned by Fox.
It's owned by NewsCorp (Rupert Murdoch), which also owns Fox.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:27 AM
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21. Think about it.
For the sake of argument, let's assume that there was such a plot. They managed through whatever means, to fly two jumbo jets into the twin towers. They take control (at least temporarily) of a third jet but the passengers rebel and it crashes in Pennsylvania (or maybe it was shot down, whatever). Now, as far as I know, nobody disputes that planes (rather than missiles) hit the towers, there's simply too many eyewitnesses. Likewise for the Pennsylvania crash; eyewitnesses and debris on the ground.

So they obviously had the means to fly large aircraft into buildings. But they then greatly complicated the plan by instead using a missile against the Pentagon. I don't know the logistics of doing this but it seems like they would have to involve a lot more people and potentially have eyewitnesses to whatever aircraft, or ground vehicle, or whatever, fired that missile.

Why would they do this? Why complicate things and leave potential loose ends when they could instead simply fly a fourth aircraft into the building like they did with the others. It makes no sense!

And what happened to American Airlines flight 77 if it didn't crash into the Pentagon? What happened to the 64 passengers?

And how the hell could they plant all of those explosives in a building without getting caught? Why would they even take the chance? If their goal was to create an excuse for attacking Iraq, simply crashing the planes into the buildings would have achieved this whether they completely collapsed or not. Again, why would they unnecessarily complicate things and greatly increase the chance of being caught when it's not necessary to do so?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:21 AM
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16. That's a seriousu hack. How long was it up.
Wish he'd put in the Power of Nightmares but hold shee yatt...that's very serious.

I wonder if they told the "boss," old Rupert? Probably not.

Thank you so much...

...maybe it was JeffK (lowtax)
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:26 AM
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20. Lame.
How would DU'ers/liberals feel if MySpace had been hacked by someone anxious to spread Clinton conspiracy theories that also didn't have any basis in fact?
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FujiZ1 Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:33 AM
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22. Well,
While I don't defend it Loose Change does contain sources and evidence, scientists, experts at popular mechanics, firemen present at the WTC, it is something to at least discuss. If the same thing happened to myspace about Clinton I would give it my time, make an opinion and move on. I don't see anything wrong with forcing hundreds of 16- 20 somethings to do the same, especially with something as irrelevant as myspace.
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mrgerbik Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 10:14 PM
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30. Does anyone actually like Clinton? This partisan debate is bullshit
Most officials (whatever "camp" they reside in) are basically the same, working for the same people. They were subverted a long time ago.
Hopefully someone will come around in the political arena who has some balls to make some REAL change. :pray:
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hpot Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 03:53 PM
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32. Proof of Government Foreknowledge 9/11
Here are some interesting facts to enjoy.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6757267008400743688
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