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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 10:45 PM
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Just saw "Loose Change, 2nd Edition"
If this criminal administration is not brought to justice then there is no justice. Watch the video and get pissed.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 10:54 PM
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1. That video is a POS
Edited on Wed Feb-14-07 10:54 PM by Ignacio Upton
Videos like 9/11 Press for Truth make a credible arguement without delving into controlled demolition and voice morphing technology. Plus, it's already been debunked for the most part:

http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 11:05 PM
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2. Fuckin' A.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 11:08 PM
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3. No offense (I hope) but that stuff is just nothing but idiotic bullshit.
...
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 10:45 AM
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9. That's not true. Loose Change is mostly very good and maybe
20% idiotic bullshit.

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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 02:25 PM
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11. Petgoat, even the makers of Loose Change have disavowed it.
The way you defend lost causes, your middle name must be Jude.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 03:50 AM
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12. They have disavowed it because it is not perfect. Still, 80% of
it is spot on. I was not defending Loose Change. I was
disputing the proposition that it is 100% bullshit.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 11:42 PM
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4. Thanks for the link, ignore the professional debunkers n/t
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vincent_vega_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 09:13 AM
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18. The only "professionals" I know of are the "9/11 Truthers"
who make money of their "product".
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 11:51 PM
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5. See 9/11: Press for Truth.
http://cooperativeresearch.org/911_press_for_truth.html">Click here.

I liked Loose Change, but it tries to get into explanations. When you just look at news clips and newspaper articles without comment, then you avoid problems.

You're right. This administration does need to be impeached. Criminal negligence if nothing else.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:32 AM
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6. I also recommend Press for Truth...
and "Everybody's Got To Learn sometime"!
911=MIHOP!
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 01:19 AM
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7. the alledged hijackers' flight training school...
Huffman Aviation

snip/

http://www.unobserver.com/layout5.php?id=1036&blz=1
Were the two of you, who purchased your flight schools less than a year before the terrorists arrived, operating as cut-outs for a clandestine operation? NOTE: In July 2000, the same month that the terrorists are said to have arrived, the real owner of Dekkers's Huffman Aviation, Wally Hilliard, had one of his planes (on a regular flight) impounded with 42 kilos of heroin on board.


http://www.bvej.freewebsites.com/news0031.htm

As we have reported in the past, the Venice Flying School in Florida at which the 9-11 hijackers were trained appears to have been used as a US 'terrorist' training school (BVEJ newsletter #0019 December 2001). Evidence is now emerging that it was also used as a drug smuggling centre to which DEA and FBI turned a blind eye.

/end snip

:hi:
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Big Pappa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 05:03 AM
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13. Sure it
always makes it easier to believe this crap when you do not have to have "explanations" or listen to "comments" that might make you use logic and a structured thought process. But then again, you like to "avoid problems".
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 08:39 AM
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8. LC and LC2 are old and have been superceeded
by much better, professional docus.

Such as "9/11 Press for Truth"
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MervinFerd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 10:50 AM
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10. LC is commercial propaganda, selling lies and hatred.
Even the (semi)rational faction of the Truthers denounce it as lies and idiocy. It also uses extreme Right Wing sources for much of its material.

Google ScrewLooseChange, for a second-by-second debunking.

But, if you can't see LC for Bullshit on your own, I doubt that debunking will do you a lot of good.

Now, run along.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:10 AM
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14. I've heard watching the entire LC video
can cause a persons brain to turn into oatmeal. Is it true?
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quickesst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:33 AM
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15. If you haven't watched it yet.....
then no, it is not true.:9 Thanks.
quickesst
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 08:30 AM
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16. Loose change is ok.
I commend Dylan Avery for his technical skills and film-making ability, he's a pretty smart kid.

I think a documentary needs to be made called "9/11: Follow the Money".

(If a hitman is paid to kill someone, isn't the paymaster also implicated?)
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Bushwick Bill Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 09:11 AM
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17. But, but...
Financing of the attacks is of "no practical significance" or some such nonsense.

"Who Killed John O'Neill" is a pretty good look into some of the players involved.
http://www.wkjo.com/
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