Do you believe Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld lied/planned to get us into a war with Iraq?

That war has killed more than 3,100 American soldiers.

There is historical precedent for wars being started in America for no good reason, the Mexican American and Spanish American wars are both of that type.

Why then may I ask is it impossible for Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld to lie about/plan 9/11, where fewer people than Iraq were killed?

Why is Osama still on the loose? Wouldn't he be top priority if we really cared about al-Qaeda?

Why are we funding Sunni terrorist groups connected to al-Qaeda, if our leaders truly believe al-Qaeda is the most important threat to us?

And now we have that video with the BBC reporting that building had collapsed, which was actually still standing in the background of the live shot. (And I'll note that the lighting in the scene is coherent, the WTC 7 lighting is also coherent with the angle of the lighting in the rest of the scene.)

We may not be able to forward a theory, and I don't think we should because there is no evidence to support it, but I don't think we ought to believe what they say. They being the people who've lied us into a war that's killed more people than 9/11.

I'll ask the opening question again:
Do you believe Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld lied/planned to get us into a war with Iraq?

But this time, I'll add a second to be answered along with it:
Do you believe Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld lied/planned 9/11?

:shrug:

but I did ask if they planned it, and that was a theory. :grr:

With every fiber of my being, I believe that the war was a complete sham. As for 9/11, I didn't really believe it, until I heard of the PNAC. I believe, that there was a quote like, " Nothing short of a Pearl Harbor type event, will sway the American public in our direction" (obviously not a exact quote). When I read that, something in my soul was convinced that these men were indeed capable of commiting such heiness crimes, in order to set there agenda in motion. Call me a conspiracy nut, but sometimes, you just feel things to your core, and for me, this is one of them.

if I were in their shoes, I wouldn't release my secret plan to the public years before it happened.

There are much better pieces of evidence, ones that would not be covered up on purpose and are the results of flubs or mere reality.

following up on 'instinct' will lead you (and others) to the truth/heart of a matter and cause you to work to find and provide FACTS for the 'less instinctually inclined' to follow....

Peace :-)
M_Y_H

I knew you could

sociopathic, elitist, fascist government... there is no such thing as conspiracy theories, just untested theories.

No crime or treason this government may have committed would surprise me. Nor will I discount any but the craziest of conspiracy theories (alien 2-headed baby type stuff) because I have no reason or duty to trust this or any government.

and finally believing LIHOP/MIHOP theories to some extent.

I have the theory that 9/11 was the result of blowback.