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Abe Linkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:15 PM
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Question about voice recordings allegedly made on 9/11
Does anyone know if it's true that all (or most, if not all) of the recordings allegedly made on 9/11 by airline passengers/personnel/family members etc. are ALL of people who are somehow connected (either directly or indirectly, as a family member) to the airline industry...other than cell phone company personnel?
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:42 PM
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1. Don't really know. The airline employees talks would be recorded.
I can't believe the phone in the seats are recorded. And cell phone conversations aren't recorded. Note that the only person who called someone they knew was the one lady who was a journalist or something like that and called her husband that worked for the government.

I find that rather odd. Another thing is that cell phones don't work above 2-3,000 feet in the air because there are no microwaves up that high.

And lastly, I did hear there were no bills for the phone calls on the plane, but could never verify that.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 11:47 PM
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2. Let's see.....
Mark Bingham United Flight 93
Mother Alice Hoglan and aunt Candyce Hoglan are alleged to have been a United Airlines flight attendant.

Jason Dahl United Airlines Flight 93
Second wife Sandy is alleged to be an United Airlines flight attendant.

John Ogonowski Flight 11
Wife Peggy (Margaret) is alleged to have been an American Airlines flight attendant.

And then there are relationships that are complex and difficult to comprehend. One such example is the relationship between Leroy Home and the Potomac Electric Power Company.
In 1999, PEPCO entered the New Jersey markets and also sponsored the publication of a book by the then unknown
Melodie Homer RN MSN,
wife of Leroy Homer who was the co-pilot of United Airlines Flight 93.

Homer, Melodie. Chemo Crusader and the Cancer Fighting Crew. Pepco, c 1999. This booklet uses superheroes to explain cancer, its treatment and accompanying side effects. Ages 4 - 8.
http://www.enotalone.com/books/0967139600.html
Melodie Homer is a pediatric clinical nurse specialist with over a decade of experience as a pediatric oncology nurse. She currently works as an oncology nurse educator, and is dedicated to the learning needs of her youngest patients.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0967139600/categoricalgeome/ref%3Dnosim/103-9815347-3731055

The New Jersey energy markets have been deregulated since August 1, 1999 for electricity and since January 2000 for Natural Gas for residential and large commercial customers. You can now choose an alternative supplier for your energy supply.
http://www.pepco-services.com/deregulation/nj_dereg.htm
Pepco Energy Services, Inc. is not the same company as the Potomac Electric Power Company (Pepco) and prices and services of Pepco Energy Services are not set by the Public Service Commission.

Pepco Energy Services
Center for Resource Solutions (CRS) are pleased to announce that Pepco Energy Services has recently gained Green-e certification for two commercial electricity products. The state of Maryland selected Pepco Energy Services (PES), A SUBSIDIARY OF Potomac Electric Power Company of Washington, D.C., to supply green electricity for 6% of its electricity needs.
http://www.wapa.gov/es/greennews/2002/july1'02.htm

Pepco has been providing reliable electric service for more than one hundred years. Today, we work around the clock to deliver electricity to more than 700,000 homes and businesses in the District of Columbia and its Maryland suburbs. We're proud of the accolades we've earned for service, reliability and customer satisfaction.
http://www.pepco.com/about_frms.htm

On Friday November 2, 2001, a jury in the case of Alexander Wilson v. ACandS, in the Circuit Court for Baltimore City case # 24X99-002160, before the Honorable Richard T. Rombro, returned a verdict in favor of the Plaintiffs in the amount of $2,529,910.00. Plaintiffs in the case were the Estate of Alexander Wilson, Geneva Wilson, widow of Alexander Wilson and Tina Wilson, daughter of Alexander Wilson. Mr. Wilson was diagnosed with mesothelioma in 1999 at the age of 79 and died in 2000 at the age of 80. He is survived by his wife Geneva and daughter Tina.
Mr. Wilson was exposed to asbestos while working as a laborer for Bechtel Corporation during construction of the Potomac Electric Power Company (PEPCO) generating plant in Chalkpoint, Maryland during 1962 - 1965. Settlements were reached with a number of defendants prior to trial. Only the defendant ACandS went to verdict.
http://mesotheliomainfo.com/mesothelioma-news12.htm

Site Name:
EOFULA (Educational Organization For United Latin Americans)
Address:
1844 Columbia Road NW, Washington D.C.
Director:
Ana Maria Neris
Population Served:
35 to 70 Hispanic Seniors age 60 and older per day
Partnerships:
Inter-American Development Bank, Washington Gas, Verizon, PEPCO
Funding:
D.C. office of Aging and private organization assistance
http://www.ncela.gwu.edu/pubs/csle/against03/dc.htm

Since 1985, residents in the River Terrace community in Washington DC have been experiencing a range of health problems. Three out of every five residents based in this area have bronchitis, asthma, or cancer. At the local River Terrace Elementary School, almost a quarter of the children have asthma, and a 1989 health assessment showed that cancer was highly prevalent.
The people in this community organized beginning in 1989 to find out more about the links between their health and two major polluters in their community: the Pepco power plant, and a trash transfer station. The Pepco power plant has been known to send out black soot when it malfunctions, and sometimes this soot can spread out over three to four miles away. The River Terrace Community Organization was successful in getting a health assessment in 1989, and has been promised that the Centers for Disease Control and the Environmental Protection Agency will be completing another assessment soon.
http://www.communityhealthaction.org/SWshowStory.asp?sid=36

The National Transportation Safety Board, which is investigating the
accident, previously announced that it had discovered "a vertical crack five inches long and half an inch wide" in pipeline under the
marsh area near the plant, which is on Swanson Creek. The NTSB has been examining the pipe in hopes of determining the cause of the leak.
In the days following the spill, the U.S. Transportation Department's
Office of Pipeline Safety issued an order requiring Pepco to shut down
the 51.5-mile pipeline that runs from Piney Point in St. Mary's County
to the Chalk Point plant.
Pepco officials said they had the leak under control about 30 minutes
after detecting it on the evening of April 7, but a storm with high
winds blew through the area the next day, pushing spilled oil past
barriers and into the Patuxent River. Pepco officials said the pipeline had never suffered any prior leaks. The pipeline was last inspected 18 months ago, according to a Pepco official, and it was being prepared for maintenance when the spill was found.
The Environmental Protection Agency has criticized Pepco's response,
saying that the company was unprepared to deal with the spill. Pepco has mailed letters to several thousand affected residents, apologizing for the incident. (The Washington Post, May 4, 2000)
http://bankrupt.com/CAR_Public/000505.MBX

EPA FINDS TOXICS: A preliminary report issued by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency substantiates some of the concerns regarding toxic contamination voiced for years by residents of River Terrace.
The report concludes that "further action...is warranted at the PEPCO Benning Road Facility" due to the presence of PCB-contaminated soil on the power company’s property, which is adjacent to the Anacostia River. Evidence of PCB contamination has been found in sediments of the Anacostia River, which the report called "a documented fishery" for area residents. Potomac Electric Power Co. stores decommissioned transformers containing cancer-causing polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs), which are now banned from use, on the grounds of its Benning Road power plant, according to the report.
http://www.thecommondenominator.com/100702_wardreports.html

Volume 8, Issue 4, January 2002
The River Terrace community organization will hold a mass demonstration on Saturday, February 9 at 11 a.m. at the PEPCO facility at 3400 Benning Road. The community is calling for closure of the purportedly cancer-causing major PEPCO electric plant in the residential area and for removal of a noisome and pest-attracting trash transfer station. Triggering the protest and subsequent action is a reported mayoral plan to expand the daily load of the trash transfer station from 250 tons to 1,250 tons. A reported 37 percent of D. C. trash passes through the pestiferous station. Regarding the electric power plant in the area, a recent community poll indicated that the cancer rate in the beset neighborhood is five times that in the rest of the city. A federal study has been mounted to verify the claim. The Sierra Club is assisting the community.
http://www.dcwatch.com/federcit/fed0201.htm

Posted on Sun, Sep. 07, 2003
Years ago, Melodie and LeRoy Homer made a list.
It said such things as "front porch" and "gourmet kitchen" and "fireplace." Their family was growing, and the Homers wanted a bigger place. The list added up to their dream home.
Then came 9/11, and the death of LeRoy, copilot on United Flight 93, which crashed over Shanksville, Pa.
It took until last March for Melodie to know she was ready to make her move.
She and Laurel, now almost 3, now live in a new two-story brick house, also in Marlton, Burlington County - with a porch big enough for two wicker sofas and a kitchen that any chef would drool over.
"That made me feel good," she said. "Like I was able to proceed with the plan."
For Melodie, 37, a nurse who works part time as a consultant for a pharmaceutical company (Ortho Biotech Oncology, purveyors of Procrit), life after LeRoy isn't often about feeling good.
http://www.culinary-career.com/culinary_college/culinary_art_education/culinary_art_education_msg22362/culinary_art_education_msg22362.shtml

According to that article,
Melodie Homer moved out of the PEPCO cancer house before September 2003,
which is why we are baffled by this bit of real estate news.

Posted on Sun, Jan. 04, 2004
These Burlington County real estate transactions were recorded June 12 to July 1.
Evesham
4 Sweetgum Ct Melodie Homer and Leroy W Homer Jr to Michael C and Stephanie Cascio, $206,000.
http://www.twincities.com/mld/philly/classifieds/real_estate/7620205.htm

It rather appears that one Michael C. Cascio is an attorney based in Marlton, NJ.
It rather appears that one Stephanie Cascio works for Multicell Technologies Inc.

MultiCell's majority-owned subsidiary, Xenogenics Corporation , is developing the Sybiol® biosynthetic liver device that optimally utilizes MultiCell's proprietary, immortalized human hepatocytes.
http://www.exten.com/about/

We can account for three of the names on that July 1 2003, real estate transaction.
As for Leroy Homer....
http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi
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Abe Linkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:25 AM
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3. Convenient for doing voice morphing, eh what?
I think it's more than a bolo-coincidence that the voice recordings just happened to be people whose voices would be easy to "capture" via recording phone or in-person conversations with them prior to 9/11...
then it would only be a matter of "cooking-up" the appropriate script and making the tapes.

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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 05:31 PM
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4. Abe's in the kitchen again...
...and I tell you what: if I were a paid disinfo agent sent to DU to discredit the 9/11 truth movement, I'd have to give Abe a share of my weekly check. Posts like that one, Abe, do more damage to the credibility of people asking questions about 9/11 than anything somebody from the Rendon group could throw together.

Keep up the good work, Abe. Maybe H&K will give you backpay for prior services rendered...
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Abe Linkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 06:55 PM
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5. And your goose has been cooked.
Otherwise, you would have tried to spin the substance of the message.

Since you seem to know something about them, what do those firms pay?

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