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Diane_nyc Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 11:31 AM
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Past history of U.S. government aid to Islamist terrorists
Edited on Sun Aug-03-08 11:55 AM by Diane_nyc
I'm looking now at the article http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_277.shtml">How our governments use terrorism to control us by Tim Howells, November 28, 2005.

This article begins:

The sponsorship of terrorism by western governments, targeting their own populations, has been a taboo subject. Although major scandals have received cursory coverage in the media, the subject has been allowed to immediately disappear without discussion or investigation. Therefore the appearance this year of two major studies of this subject is a welcome breakthrough, and provides essential reading for anyone struggling to understand the events of September 11, 2001 and the post September 11 world.

The studies are complementary. NATO's Secret Armies, Operation Gladio and Terrorism in Western Europe by Daniele Ganser concerns terrorism sponsored by American and British intelligence in Western Europe and Turkey between the end of World War II and 1985. The War on Truth, 9/11, Disinformation, and the Anatomy of Terrorism by Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed chronicles the cultivation and sponsorship of militant Islamic terrorism by the intelligence services of the United States, Britain and Russia from 1979 to the present. Both studies are models of scholarship -- meticulously documented and carefully reasoned -- but the world they reveal will boggle the mind of the most wild-eyed conspiracy theorist.


I would be interested to hear any substantive criticism of the two above-mentioned books, by anyone here who has read them.

Tim Howells then goes on to talk about the following topics:

- Operation Gladio

- U.S. aid to the Mujahedeen in Afghanistan during and before the Soviet invasion

- Ali Mohamed

- Al Qaeda in the Balkans, with help from the Pentagon

- Al Qaeda in the Philippines, with help from the CIA

- Ahmed's views on pre-9/11 warnings and what they imply

I would be interested in any specific, substantive comments that anyone here may have on Tim Howells's presentation of these topics.

At least some of these topics are also addressed in the following places on the History Commons site:

Later, I'll go through the above pages on the History Commons site and post further comments calling attention to specific events mentioned there.

Whatever it does or does not imply about 9/11, I think that the past history of U.S. covert operations involving Islamist terrorist groups is important for us to examine.
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Diane_nyc Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 04:26 PM
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1. P.S.: Another relevant category on the History Commons site
Edited on Sun Aug-03-08 04:27 PM by Diane_nyc
Another relevant page on the History Commons site, besides the ones already listed in post above, is http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&geopolitics_and_9/11=complete_911_timeline_philippine_militant_collusion">Militant-Government Collusion in the Philippines, part of the Complete 9/11 Timeline.
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Diane_nyc Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 06:25 PM
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2. Luai Sakra
Also on the History Commons site, while exploring the page about http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&geopolitics_and_9/11=complete_911_timeline_us_intel_links_to_islamic_militancy">U.S. Intelligence Links to Islamic Militancy, I came across a very interesting page about http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&complete_911_timeline_possible_moles_or_informants=complete_911_timeline_luai_sakra">Luai Sakra, a leading Al Qaeda member who was also an informant for CIA and for intelligence agencies of at least two other countries (Syria and Turkey) as well.

Apparently, Luai Sakra gave very detailed and specific information about the 9/11 plot to Syrian intelligence on 9/10/2001. It is unknown how much information he also gave to the CIA.

Sakra has also claimed that http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a112507sakraalhazmi#a112507sakraalhazmi">Nawaf Alhazmi, not Hani Hanjour, piloted Flight 77.
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