Why The Truth About 9/11 Is Censored By The Media

http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2005/10/hit-them-with-truth.html


You can see the same mindset happening right here on DU, that is why September 11 is in the dungeon. That is also why there are humorless operatives living down here to intimidate and confuse the posters.

I've know for a long time what really happened, but it was only in the last week I figured out a very important piece of the puzzle.
I don't normally post down here because either I am preaching to the choir or sparing with the operatives, which is a waste of time and energy.

sometimes we have socks to pair or such and have time for a little bickering :rofl:

can you share?

"The result was a secret program called Godzilla. This program is in part a secret building code by the terms of which structures deemed of concern must submit a plan for demolition that FEMA keeps on file. Planned buildings over a certain height must submit a demolition plan along with a construction plan and the construction plan must include facilities and features within the structure and machinery for the potential installation of demolition explosives."


http://investigate911.se/articles/godzilla.html

There is not a whole lot out there on this. I can't find the original article I saw, but it said basically the same thing as this one.

It would explain why there were work crews & temporally closed off floors in the Twin Towers in the months before 9/11.
The reason for the Godzilla Project was and still is originally good. But the criminals took advantage of it to start their war and the rest is history.
FEMA under Bill Clinton worked. bu$h fatally fixed that early on.

not necessarily because 9/11 was going to happen, the wiring was just a plus for the event.

The better to "shock and awe" you with.

I've read some persuasive articles about tactical nuclear weapons and recently Spooked911 posted some photos
which show shiny smoke that is said to be a signature of smoke caused by the use of nukes.

Lower Manhattan was ordered to be evacuated immediately after the explosions/fires erupted, so that lessened the
casualty/injury rates. Also, some researchers maintain that cell phones and various other electronic devices
were useless due to having been "HAARPed" - which would explain why only Faraday-protected TV network video cameras worked.

actually happened? I'm thinking no because, if you did, you'd present it. You're as hopeless as Spooked.

Nuking some city would have been a far, far easier and safer plot to execute. One obvious advantage is that nuking a city would have required far fewer black ops people than any of the 9/11 plots proposed by the "truth movement." And all they would need to do is put the bomb in place and set it off -- it doesn't get much simpler than that, with very little chance of anything going wrong. Both Hollywood and the news media had already primed the public to worry that terrorists might be buying Russian nukes on the black market, whereas flying hijacked airplanes into buildings seems to have caught most people by surprise. They could have put the bomb on a ship that was sailing into a harbor and set it off just before it docked, so there would be far fewer questions to answer about why our defenses failed. (If they did that, they could also have precisely controlled how much damage was done by where they set it off.) And finally, it would have been a lot easier to implicate just about any country they wanted to, if the intent was to create a justification for a war, rather than have "some guy in a cave" as their boogieman.

So, why did those boneheads instead come up with a far more complicated and risky (yet less effective) plot?

for the destruction of the WTC7 came from Peter Lance on a "Coast-to-Coast" radio
broadcast. This was broadcast in 2005, but he said that some foreign embassies
are rigged to blow should the need arise and he suggested the same for 7. He said
a ME type man on 9/11 went into an unmanned firehouse and put on a fireman's outfit
and was caught in the building. Therefore they had to blow it because it was compromised.
Bizarre much?

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2005/06/16.html
(Must be a subscriber to listen)

It's really good so far

or you wouldn't make such an absurd post.

That claim is utter garbage.

Have you ever actually seen a building rigged for controlled demolition? To claim that it could go on right under the noses of the occupants and they never noticed is absurd.

Scary dude

Don't mess with him (her?)

edit for spelling

:popcorn:

To clarify this is a joke, as I sure without the disclaimer someone will be calling me a liar.

Well played, LARED... :rofl:

I'll give you 10 points for that one...

:hi:

can you find any corroboration for this or didn't you even bother to look?

Hi ya, RC, welcome to the dungeon.

"There is not a whole lot out there on this" is quite an understatement. The very first mention of this "secret program called Godzilla" seems to be this anonymous comment left on a CommonDreams article earlier this year, which doesn't provide a single source. Is that right?

But when you read it, a lightbulb or little voice in your head allowed you to immediately fit another piece into your puzzle?

And if anyone points out the rather high probability that this story is total bullshit, he's probably a conspiracy agent, and if several people do that, it means you're definitely getting too close to the truth?

Are you really sure you want the media to give more attention to the "truth movement?"

"FEMA under Bill Clinton worked. bu$h fatally fixed that early on."

Hey the trucks heading to New Orleans under FEMA orders will be arriving any day now.

How can you doubt Bush, Brownie and Chertoff?

there were problems with the WTC buildings -- asbestos and other thigns --

they were going to have to go to very expensive lengths to build scaffolding to

take the towers down in reverse of how they put them up!

Again -- DEMOLITION WAS BARRED because of the contaminants in the buildings --

The people who wired the building were those involved in the "false flag" event --

and it was a military operation.

I'd especially love to hear how someone could construct 100+ story scaffolding.

And people wonder how the "truth movement" has self-marginalized.

Goebbels would feel like a chump.

too close to the truth, the wreaking crew comes out in force. The more damaging the truth, the more coordinated the attack.

The same people all the time to disrupt and sidetrack the thread. They live down here. They never or seldom go anywhere else. If I didn't know any better, I say they were assigned here. Hmmmm, now who would gain the most from keeping the information about 9/11 in confusion? By pushing the plausible denial to any and all provable facts contrary to the government line. In pushing the conventional wisdom put out by our corrupt^h^h^h^h^h^h^h government and our 'We Report, You Decide' news media? Any ideas? I wonder... Hmmmm...

why speculate?

Personally, I believe a certain voluminous poster is being paid by the publishing industry to help sell conspiracy books. And I beleive they're paid by the post, hence the incredible volume of posts that they make.

But since I've got no way of actually knowing that to be true, there's no point in speculating about their motives.

Sid

And the more they post, the stronger my conclusions. Think of a jig-saw puzzle with other people supplying the pieces. Some pieces fit, some don't. Some that don't fit now, sometimes fit later. And some pieces that don't fit are from other puzzles given to confuse and delay. There are some here with a ready supply of mis-fit pieces with either the shape or the color wrong.

of course pieces from the puzzle of logic, reason and science would be considered mis-fit when put into the puzzle full of woo that the truth movement is trying to construct.

Sid

Edit: improved post title.

The definition seems to be kind of muddied down here.

It's up to the "truth movement" to define itself. So far, is seems it hasn't uncovered enough "truth" to even convince each other of anything. If it hasn't been able to avoid getting into gang fights within itself and to avoid fracturing as badly as any religion, then it's no surprise that it doesn't have any clear definition.

A simple question with an easy answer. And you can't even answer that straight.
Do the Truthers (A)push the government line or are the Truthers the ones (B)trying to figure out what really went on concerning 9/11?

Answer - Check one:

A.

B.

That's why I always put "truth movement" in quotes.

They sticky together in a united challenge to hold the line by any means possible. And I might add they do a mighty fine
job. Congratulations. You must be awfully proud of your accomplishment.

people like you. Ever think of that?

Oh well, at least the 9/11 TCs here agree with us that Bush/Cheney are liars whose word can't be trusted.

While I can't say that this is any surprise, to hear it come from the horses' mouths (Brokaw and Rather) sums up what I have come to believe all along.

I have done quite a bit of reading and research on Joseph Goebbels - and after reading Al Gore's "The Assault on Reason" and Naomi Wolf's "The End of America", I am absolutely convinced that we are only being told what the powers-that-be want us to know/believe.

"Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play."
~~Joseph Goebbels~~

what many of already knew.

Since it is likely that this has been going on for quite some time, I am grateful that at least now we have the internet to help with correcting the misconceptions that often result from the propaganda.

Thanks for posting this, RC. I see you have been here on DU for a LONG time. I haven't seen you post here in the dungeon before, and, am glad that you decided to venture "down".

so, if we take issue with your absolute lack of proof, we're "humorless operatives living down here to intimidate anc confuse the posters"? That sounds like propaganda itself. Why is it that when we try to debate on the facts, the instant reaction from the "truth movement" is that our motivation can only be suspect?

I'll match my liberal credentials against anyone here anyday. What I find truuly appalling is the object lack of critical thinking skills on the part of most of the "truth movement". It's truly embarassing to witness roundly debunked 9/11 myths recycled here over and over, especially when it's plain that the poster hasn't subjected the myth to a shred of critical analysis but simply swallowed it hook, line and sinker.

Here badger badger badger where art thou spelling mistake badger patrol.........Oh I see it was the almighty badger police man himself,

Will he relentlessly badger himself post after post? Stay tuned for more of "These are the Days of the Badger" staring SD as the badger with a badge. Will he drive himself insane tormenting himself over a simple spelling error? Only the Shadow knows.

All it takes is a mouse click.

:evilgrin:

they are closer to the real truth than what you are pushing.

I have been interested in information about 9/11 for the last almost 7 years. My interest began with the 6 or 8 thousand pounds/gallons whatever, depending on the source, of jet fuel that magically flowed straight to the elevator shafts, through doors that magically open to allow the flowing, burning jet fuel to flow the 7 sub-basement and burned hot enough to melt all 47 columns at the same time to collapse the towers, straight down, from the top down.

Never mind that most of the fuel load burned OUTSIDE the building on the second impact. That building came down first. Yeah, you're right, something's suspicious here.
They were telling us that all that burning jet fuel in the basement was the reason for all that molten steel at the bottom of the rubble pile, don't cha know. Ya sure, ya betcha. Bull Shit!

The second tower had as much molten steel at the bottom of other rubble as the other tower, without the fuel load to cause it. Where did the energy come from to melt all that steel and get it hot enough to keep it molten for weeks?

The above was in the news for weeks till people started saying "Hey wait a minute, how can that be?" Well, it can't be for several obvious reasons. But that was the official line at the time, that was what the news media and the government were selling. I didn't buy it then and I still don't. Why do you still push the government line?

Because Saddam personally flew both planes into the Towers so therefore we invaded Iraq? Do you believe that also? 9/11 is the excuse for the invasion of Iraq even though Iraq had nothing to do with it. Where is the tie?

When one gathers enough information on any one subject, pattern appear. There are plenty of patterns concerning 9/11 and the official line doesn't fit the reality.

They started several stories conflating the 9/11 attacks with Iraq, but the primary selling point was WMDs. As time passed and no evidence of an Iraqi angle materialized, both Bush and Cheney disavowed the idea.

Saddam-WMD and 9/11-Iraq were used in the same sentence for weeks as a means to tie Iraq to 9/11 without saying Saddam or Iraq was responsible.

not 9/11 had happened.

9/11 certainly didn't hurt the administration's case, but it was not essential to it.

Just my opinion.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/01/10/oneill.bush/

(CNN) -- The Bush administration began planning to use U.S. troops to invade Iraq within days after the former Texas governor entered the White House three years ago, former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill told CBS News' 60 Minutes.

Please be specific.

You're funny. I take my comment back about the operatives down here not having a sense of humor. :rofl:

You made the accusation. What exactly am I "pushing"? Is everyone who disagrees with you and calls you on your bullshit an "operative"?

Or the Truth about the fake moon walks?

Or the Truth about Bigfoot?

Same thing.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUKN1544880720080817

Sorry, Mr. "Scientist" -- I saw the photos and I believe my eyes.

for his support of the round earth theory. Interesting.

article by Paul Craig Roberts:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3737928

Of interest, I think is the following:



Roberts goes on to say:



And, wouldn't they use the media to spread those lies?

I think it is quite possible.

There are over 50,000 professional journalists in the US today. There are many more in Europe and Asia.

Each and every one of these professionals has the option and opportunity to resign their corporate positions and instantly become a millionaire by publishing the "truth" about 9/11.

These are not cowardly people. Hundreds of professional journalists have ridden into the front lines of Iraq and Afghanistan with our troops. Over 200 professional journalists have been killed in Iraq alone.

Can you think of any reason why, among these tens of thousands of brave professionals, not one has published the story that exposes 9/11 for what you may think it is? This would be the story of the millenium.

in fact, it would end their job.

My point was that there are 50,000+ professional journalists out there. Do you seriously believe that each and every single man and woman among them is afraid to investigate 9/11 and publish the 'truth'?

Are there any documented cases of Bush murdering anyone who got too close to the truth?

Whoever could unravel the story would make millions, so they would not need their day job.

it is not about finding difficult, unpopular truths and reporting them.

it is about propaganda, disseminating it, discussing it and repeating it until it supplants even the truth one can see with one's own eyes.

Five, maybe as few as three, corporations effectively own ALL the major media in this country. They all are right wing, capitalist, status quo supporting entities.

An older, established, successful employee of the corporate media has far too much to lose to risk it by challenging the accepted script. Dan frigging Rather couldn't survive his mild challenge to the bush cabal over the bush AWOL issue. And that was FAR less momentous an issue than the truth about 9-11. No media star would risk their multi-million-dollar salary, perks, and privilege in order to report a story, especially one that would provoke as much outrage as support among the public. (Never mind that the stars succeeded in their careers because of a complete lack of scruples in the first place.) They'd be marginalized, if not outright assassinated--professionally if not literally--within one news cycle.

Younger, less-established employees of the corporate media would not have the power, gravitas or reach to expose a story of that magnitude. They would be immediately marginalized or outright banished. Ashliegh Banfield was "disappeared" for making mildly critical remarks about the sanitized coverage by the corporate media of the invasion of Iraq. Her career has never really recovered, certainly not in news.

I think the truth about 9-11 is yet another loose thread in the history of this country, that if pulled, would unravel stories that no one would believe or want to believe. Things are far worse than even we "conspiracy nuts" hypothesize.

seem to be assuming that every journalist is somehow being forced to present a RW agenda. In reality, I would expect the distribution of political bias among that population to more-or-less mirror the distribution among the general population, ie, some are RW, some are LW and the vast majority are in the middle somewhere.

In addition, there are large numbers of free-lancers who do not have any corporate masters. These folks do not depend on Rupert Murdoch for a paycheck. They investigate and find a publisher for their work.

Are you seriously suggesting that a thorough, well sourced expose, complete with irrefutable smoking guns, would not see the light of day?

Just none in the mainstream American corporate media. Are you aware of any thorough, well-financed expose?

For starters, most of the evidence has been destroyed and people have died, moved on, forgotten...

Plus, we've had 7 years of disinformation and propaganda shoved down our throats 24X7 so that the small percentage of Americans who pay attention now "know" things that aren't true.

It would take a huge effort to properly investigate this and discover the truth.

but the numerous publications not part of the "mass media" who foster skepticism of government claims. Does anyone seriously think of The New Yorker, The Nation, Mother Jones, the various indies - that they all bow to some right-wing corporate master? If so, whoever is in charge of the Tucson Weekly better keep a closer eye on them - they seem to be out of step with the right-wing program.

It has been numerous time and it get buried and/or the authors find themselves unemployed in their chosen profession. You either forget or don't know who controls the media in this country. And it ain't the Liberals.

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” Upton Sinclair

Without the internet we would never have gotten enought facts to figure out the government line was pure lying bullshit.

And so, the rest of the world is better informed about 9/11, Iraq, Afghanistan, and the bu$h administration's part in 9/11, than the average American.

And what does being a journalist in Iraq or Afghanistan have to do with anything here? It's a straw man argument.

This story of the millennium has been published, numerous times, only to get derided and beat down as the creative imaginations of lunitics, such as you are doing.

1. Can you cite the multiple authors who have uncovered the 'truth' of 9/11?

2. Do the stories agree in most salient respects?

3. Have they been independantly vetted by scholarly sources?

If the answer to all three is 'yes', then I will cede that there is a massive conspiracy to bury the story.

Campbell Brown
Campbell Brown Fascist Mouthpiece
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdrhDrU_wOc



Airhead CNN Reporters try to Belittle Impeachment Hearings
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR-6jAfc-Bg

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a year-old thread kicked from the basement of the dungeon, by a now deleted post. That's pretty freakin' funny. :rofl:


Sid

The harrassment of people, putting their power down, denying them of their right to free speech and interpretation of such a terrible event, one that shocked me and made me cry when I saw it on the TV in Australia.

And how much do people fear it happening again anyway? Even without the pressures to maintain conformity to reporting with the major news like CNN.. it still disturbs the people so terribly. It disturbs me over here in Australia. makes me wonder where they will try next? Europe? In Redfern there are two towers. I had picked up on this being a disturbing thing years before in 1999. TNT towers actually and I recall now I thought - they're going to blow them up! I am so sorry to the families and friends, and lovers who lived close to the mass of people who died. The image of the towers haunts me the most when I think of the tiny people free falling down the side.

This is my first opportunity to say anything about 9/11 more directly over the net.

the anonymity seems to make people less than charitable.

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when people spout idiotic 9/11 nonsense.

not a clue of ypurs you think in insults and think and don't acknowledge feelings of others...

What I don't understand is why my comment was deleted.

He called a new member dumb for speaking from the heart, and I call him mean. So my comment was deleted.

Yeah, I starting to get the picture.

Please get your facts accurate. Accurate facts lead to accurate pictures.

I meant to say that this person who I assume to be male telling me that my post about 9/11 was dumb. To be unspoken..to be unspeaking..to be silenced..to be forced to shut up..now that is a definition of dumb for me as I am not a dumb or unspeaking person and do not need sign language to convey my opinion. Now I am aware of yet another person who has the will to shut me up. Your intent seems to say this as a negative, which it can hardly be sensed as other than negative and derogatory. Why post something so deprived of originality?!! I am not just saying something that appears like lazy texting, or anything mindnumbing, so why your target of me? What do you not reflect to yourself about?!!

the two little girls and the gift ponies...and the one with the little girl and a bicycle?

it does not identify your statement as you have one of only a - sign...no matter who you are connected with...get lost.

to say that the "- sign" is of negativity. And then for them to get lost, quite clear.

What does ""- sign" is of negativity" mean?

"no matter who you are connected with...get lost."

"humorless operatives living down here to intimidate and confuse the posters."

They're sounding more confused than confusing.

without having to wade through insults and derisions. I'm amazed by the all the screamers and I keep on wondering, what the hell are they afraid of? Could it be that the truth would burst their delusional bubbles? Just things I ponder but I sure do appreciate the information RC :-)

First of all: Nostradamus demolishes "atheism"


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wait, wait...


I forgot something...


you little shits even talk about me....


GOATS ON FIRE....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssFaIhJkLsk



LIBERATION!


Sing from the rooftops:

"Atheism is dead!"

http://www.conspiracycafe.net/forum/index.php?/topic/25104-atheist-apocalypse/page__pid__117856_




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK50So-yYRU

BYE BYE ATHEISM

WTF?

Sid

WTF?....

Let's posit 10 levels of political truth-telling:

10 Absolute propaganda (see Stalin's Russia or Nazi Germany)
9
8 Bush-Cheney Administration
7
6 Normal political spin (Clinton administration)
5 Candidate Obama
4 Wesley Clark (more truthful than most politicians, disliked by the MSM)
3 "Truth to power" politician (e.g. Dennis Kucinich)
2
1 Deep politics (i.e. what's really happening)

:thumbsup:

Meanwhile, that they have to maintain a heavy cover on this shows how vulnerable

the right remains to any pebble of truth hitting their mirror of myths!!!

It's not just 9/11 . . . it's all the violence, all the fakery -- all the right wing BS

and cover ups that would fall if questioned.