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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 12:34 AM
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Remains of Ziad Jarrah IDed by DNA At Shanksville
Edited on Sat Apr-11-09 12:35 AM by Bolo Boffin
http://911myths.com/images/e/ef/Team5_Box62_AliasesAndIDs-FBIIDsHijackers-2.pdf

That's a document that tells how the FBI determined the identities of the hijackers. Important enough, but there are two paragraphs to note especially:

The Bundeskriminalamt (BKA - German Federal Police) provided DNA profiles obtained from search warrants conducted on Ziad Jarrah's girlfriend (Aysel Sengun) residence. The FBI Laboratory compared the DNA profiles provided by the BKA, with DNA profiles from the four sets of unknown human remains recovered at the crash site of UAL Flight 93.

The DNA profiles provided by the BKA matched the sample of one of the sets of unknown human remains.


So for all you guys expecting that hijacker to show up alive one day, he's not.
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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 05:43 AM
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1. Still an interesting family those Jarrah's


Lebanese in Shock Over Arrest of an Accused Spy


By ROBERT F. WORTH
Published: February 18, 2009

MARAJ, Lebanon — For 25 years, Ali al-Jarrah managed to live on both sides of the bitterest divide running through this region. To friends and neighbors, he was an earnest supporter of the Palestinian cause, an affable, white-haired family man who worked as an administrator at a nearby school.


Ali al-Jarrah

To Israel, he appears to have been a valued spy, sending reports and taking clandestine photographs of Palestinian groups and Hezbollah since 1983.

...

It is not the family’s first brush with notoriety. One of Mr. Jarrah’s cousins, Ziad al-Jarrah, was among the 19 hijackers who carried out the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, though the men were 20 years apart in age and do not appear to have known each other well.

..

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/world/middleeast/19lebanon.html?_r=3&hp
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 10:40 AM
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7. So you accept this DNA identification of Jarrah on Flight 93? n/t
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 06:10 AM
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2. Well that's easy to debunk
Edited on Sat Apr-11-09 06:31 AM by LARED
The perps obtained Ziad's DNA and planted it along with the commercial airliner parts in Shanksville.

Ziad is now living it up in a government paid hiding place in South America. He lives next door to Eva and Adolph.
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planeman Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 06:27 AM
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3. typical mR LARED how you avoided ziad's connection to Israel.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 06:31 AM
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4. How was Mr Ziad connected to Israel? nt
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planeman Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 06:32 AM
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5. can you not read? mr lared- it is in the second post on this thread.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 06:39 AM
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6. I read it
Ziad Jarrah the hijacker had nothing to do with Israel as indicated in the post.

I seem to be missing your point?
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 02:22 PM
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9. Apparently through a distant cousin 20 years apart in age, whom he didn't know well
Edited on Sat Apr-11-09 02:23 PM by jberryhill
"the men were 20 years apart in age and do not appear to have known each other well"

You see, if a distant cousin of yours ever performed any work for hire for the Israeli government, it means you are connected to Israel.

This also means that Kevin Bacon, and of course you, through your connection to Kevin Bacon, are Israeli agents.

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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 08:09 AM
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12. I always wondered about Kevin Bacon.
If you watch "Footloose" with an audio version of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion playing in the background you can see Kevin's dances are timed to coincide with the good bits of the Protocols.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 10:41 AM
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8. So you accept that Ziad was aboard Flight 93 based on this DNA identification? n/t
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 02:26 PM
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10. Wait A Minute Mr. Planeman....

Let me make sure I have this correct:

The Flight 93 crash site was faked. Therefore the government could make up any identity whatsoever for the hi-jackers of the flight - since there were no "hi-jackers".

But given absolute freedom to make up an identity, they instead pick the twenty-year younger cousin of some guy who once provided information to Israel.

You believe these things, yes?
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RainaldGoetz Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 01:57 AM
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11. Absurd
Hi,
I find this article pretty absurd.
Do you seriously believe that the FBI in need for DNA doesn’t use the one they had collected themselves in the locations where the alleged hijackers had lived the last days and weeks, in the cars they used (remember Jarrah’s car?) but turns to the German federal police and asks for DNA samples? How believable is that?
And why was it nowhere reported in the news at the time?
And even if you accept all this without raising a single eyebrow then pray tell why weren’t the other eight alleged hijackers not identified when apparently with Jarrah on went through so much hassle and no obstacle was to high?
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:21 AM
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13. Getting DNA from a known verifiable source and comparing it to remains at Shanksville is absurd?
I have enjoyed speaking with you. Goodbye.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:26 AM
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14. It should be rather obvious that RG is...
a ''no-planer''. Watch out for the rabbit holes.
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