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Theobald Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 01:57 PM
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Planes, trains and apples and oranges
How is it that the perpetrators of 9/11 were able to get their hands on all those videos to insert the CGI planes to show that planes supposedly hit the WTC towers, yet they were only able to create a couple of crappy videos for the pentagon strike? Why didn't they put CGI planes in the video from the gas station (Which would have a camera pointed at the pentagon why?) or from the nearby hotels (which would have had camera's pointing at the pentagon why?) or from any of the gravestones across the street at Arlington National Cemetery. Somehow the sneaky bastards were able to be minutes away from the gas station to confiscate the tape after the plane supposedly hit the pentagon, but they weren't as technically advanced as their brethren in NY who were able to put CGI planes into dozens of videos, from amateurs and professionals alike?
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 02:03 PM
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1. They haven't released them yet...
so maybe they've been working on them getting them ready. :shrug:
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 02:34 PM
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2. OK, there's that idea...
...and then there's the idea that, hey, they haven't faked any footage whatever, and what we've got is what there is.

Which do you think is more likely, wildbill? The master fakers of the WTC footage not being able to crank out a fake Pentagon video at all in eight years, or that there is no fake footage?
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 03:35 PM
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3. What a great example you have there...
of someone drawing a conclusion and then trying to force the evidence to fit it.

8 years to get those videos ready but the others were ready to go strait off the bat.

Sure Bill, Sure.
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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:18 AM
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4. The FBI released the doubke tree video in 2006, I think


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mseU9tpwxsA


And the weird time stamp skips before and after the impact, don't give me much confidence that the footage hasn't been altered.


Reminds me bit of destroying pictures of the RFK assasination.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x249336
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:29 AM
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5. That still fails to address the issue raised.
Please try to follow along.
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Theobald Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 10:30 AM
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7. Why doesn't it give you much confidence?
Surely after five god damn years they would fix whatever obvious glitches there were before they released it to the public. The only reason there are obvious glitches is because they didn't alter the video. Surely people who planned such an intricate attack on the US wouldn't release some crappy ass video with obvious 'glitches' when they had all the time in the world to fix it.

Your reasoning is faulty, your logic is non-existent, and your capacity for critical thinking is highly suspect.
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Theobald Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 10:25 AM
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6. That's the best you got?
They had fake videos ready for New York, but they forgot to make fake videos for VA? They had 8 years to make the fake videos, but they haven't come out with them yet?

You can't have it both ways, if the videos were faked in NY (poorly in a number of peoples opinions)than certainly they would have planned to have fake videos in DC and surely they would have come up with better quality fakes then the Pentagon video and the hotel video, which show a whole lot of almost nothing.
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 10:30 AM
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8. Conspiracy theorists can always have it both ways.
One of the many areas of basic logic and reasoning that they ignore or are incapable of understanding. I lean towards the second, partly because I think it better fits the evidence and partly so I don't get too depressed.
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Theobald Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 04:05 PM
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9. Come on where are the CGI people? Stand up and defend yourselves!
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