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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 03:23 PM Original message |
Doesn't it hurt our credibility to bring up the crazy conspiracies with the realistic ones? |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. We should consider all legitimate evidence... |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. And that, my friend, is the anti-truther modus operandi in a nutshell |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Exactly... |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:21 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. Oh yes. Down to a science. You speak truth. Real truth. |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
24. I agree, but would amend it slightly. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. So which theories did you have in mind specifically? n/t |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Oh, for example... |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:53 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I wanted something more specific than "the case for MIHOP".... |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. The example was specific. But it is just an example. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Keep in mind the history of the CIA... |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Could you please provide evidence of your.... |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #44 |
60. From an interview with Bill White... |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #44 |
61. Here's a NY Times article about the Al Qaeda-Pakistani intel links.... |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:47 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. What about your other claims? |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:24 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. John Kerry's BCCI investigation may shed some more light on these connections.... |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:27 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Again, no direct proof of your... |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:36 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. I never claimed to have direct proof... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:53 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Poppy Bush was also actively involved in setting up the Saudi Air Force and intelligence. |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:25 AM Response to Reply #43 |
59. Yes, frankly I have no chops on this. But I do have a brain. |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yes it does. |
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travis80 (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. don't you think all inside jobbers are crazy? |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. debunking helps the truth by definition |
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travis80 (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. that's not what the topic is about. |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. huh? |
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travis80 (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. i interpreted the OP as staying away from crazy sounding theories. |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. as far as I know, we all go where the evidence points us |
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travis80 (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. keypoint: more plausible |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. this is remarkable |
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travis80 (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. i'm not |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. then what IS your objection to the OP? |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Interesting. This meta conversation has the same problem as the main discussion. |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. well, I'm a bit lost |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Well, yes, my point *was* that they are possible but, unfortunately, rare. |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:54 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. oh, I see |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Well, sure... |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. yes, discussion here tends to be painfully bad |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:12 PM Response to Reply #37 |
49. Excellent observation . . . |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:18 AM Response to Reply #49 |
58. Yes, I started to elaborate on some of that but pulled back several times. |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
40. You are throwing around a bunch of terms there. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
48. Well, then we have a lot of "crazy" firemen and police officers -- ???? |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
3. there was no big plane at the Pent |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 08:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. There are plenty of eyewitnesses that would disagree with you. nt |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 09:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. plenty of witnesses that disagreed with them! |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 10:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Not really |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
50. True . . . like jet pilot sent over by Brig. Gen. Larry Arnold, Cmdr Aviation-NORAD -- |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
4. Who's "We"? Who defines "crazy" when it comes to conspiracies? |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-14-09 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
7. Gotta look at the entire harvest to seperate wheat from chaff. |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:03 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. See, we've looked at the harvest and people still think it's a sunflower field. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
51. Eh . . . no, there is no "photographic evidence of a plane at the Pentagon" . ..!!! |
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RetiredTrotskyite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
10. We Need to Check Out ALL Theories. |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Disprove that space aliens made it happen by mind controlling the participants. n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
65. Hey , , , could be "space aliens" in that Pentagon photo . . ..??? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
52. So true -- |
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travis80 (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
13. cbdo2007, why do you think 9/11 was an inside job? |
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travis80 (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
19. your WTC 7 maybe / WTC 1&2 no way theory |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
41. Um no. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:40 PM Response to Reply #19 |
53. Good catch . . . |
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Twist_U_Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
27. thats why theres a dungeon silly. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
55. Just a reminder . . . |
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Twist_U_Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:43 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. and this applies to my post how? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:48 PM Response to Reply #55 |
64. Misplaced - too late to edit |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
36. Isn't this the kind of question that essentially answers itself? |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:10 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Hey SD... |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Only to a "truther"....n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:41 PM Response to Reply #42 |
54. And such modesty . . . |
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Twist_U_Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:42 AM Response to Reply #42 |
56. keep telling yourself that |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
46. One of the craziest theories was the "Magic Bullet" . . .but they used it because they had to . . |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
63. Just a reminder . . . |
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