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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:36 AM
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Calling all witnesses, experts, pros in any field related to 9/11.
Post your expertise, stories, credentials, or other experiences here.
One or two, or more if you choose.

This could be very helpful to the investigations on DU, or in Congress, or even to the DHS.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:42 AM
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1. Try Googling "9/11" and report back to us Tngledwebb...
...there is a ton of stuff out there. For any eye witnesses or whistle blowers to post their stories and credentials here on DU would open them up to exposure and unfortunately lock-downs by sinister non-DU forces :tinfoilhat:

I'd welcome anything you might be able to throw some light on though.
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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:55 AM
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2. All types of eyewitnesses and experts invited.
Might be inside, outside, on our side, or t'other.

And the reason I'm asking is precisely because I once googled 9/11, way back in early 2002, almost as soon as I got a google machine. Would that every American household had the same luxury, and curiosity.
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:30 PM
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3. you have GOT to be kidding...
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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:44 PM
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4. No, not at all.
I know the true insiders/whistleblowers will be very careful, if there are any, or any left.

But there must be plenty who have some related expertise or even eyewitness testimony that would help piece the story together.

Just thought it'd be useful to have their input in one thread.
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:10 PM
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5. the entangles web of 9/11...
is much too vast for one thread

you could have a thread on warnings
on pentagon games
on faa
on software for pentagon games
one for each of the buildings
one for each of the aircrafts
one for the whistleblowers
one for the money trail...no make that many for the money trail
one for the cia
one for the fbi
and it goes on and on and on....plus they are right in previous posts

no one will spill all on a blog..

people's lives are being threatened over this any many other crimes of this administration
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 05:42 PM
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6. What make you think anyone that has expertise will
Edited on Tue Dec-14-04 05:57 PM by LARED
respond?

All they are in for are hordes of true believers questioning every statement they make.

There is a ATC posting here that is consistently told he doesn't know what his talking about.

There have been a number of engineers (myself included) and Architects that routinely have they opinion given no respect,or worse called some sort of BFEE plant.

There is or was a gentlemen actually involved or at least had contacts in the WTC investigation that suffered the same.

Another gentlemen was part of the actual construction of the WTC complex is ignored.

As far as I can tell to get any respect you must be have a CV that starts off with graduate of google.com, expert at finding non-expert opinion only found on kook web pages. -- Oh and pretending you are just a skeptic.

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Abe Linkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 05:59 PM
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7. Do you have a degree in engineering? If so, in what...
and, if you don't mind..from what college or university?
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 06:10 PM
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8. Sure thing Abe
Mechanical Engineer, Drexel University

http://www.drexel.edu/coe

So tell me Abe, what's your background? Degrees? Experience?
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:36 AM
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9. What's the matter Abe?
You asked me for a bit of info about myself and I told you. I asked you for some info about you and get nothing.

What gives?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 05:42 AM
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:29 PM
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11. Why hit the alert?
I only asked you for some background info.

You speak with authority on these matters. You state without equivocation that it as an inside job. You offer opinions on all sorts of issues dealing with the collapse.

All that bluster must be backed up with some experience in these matters.

Is there any reason to believe you?

If you would rather not give any personal info, no matter how trivial, that's understandable, but at least have the courtesy to decline to answer.

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Sweet Pea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 05:35 PM
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13. I've asked him, as well....
in the past with no response. With such strong opinions that are diametrically opposite to proven, acknowledged experts in the fields that make up the Pentagon attack, I am just curious as to his background, training, education and expertise. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, of course, but a well informed, educated opinion based on experience, training and logic is what I look for when someone questions a subject matter expert.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 02:30 AM
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14. Sweet Pea, Look at who's willing to post their credentials and who's not.
I'm an air traffic controller of 14 years at Cleveland Center. Try to get the same info from any of the prolific conspiracy theorists here.

I don't have all of the answers, but I know the 9/11 elements that overlap my area of expertise. There are professional engineers and pilots here, also.


We're always available to help...
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Sweet Pea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 10:27 AM
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15. Exactly
I have 10 years experience as a military aviator and have worked in the Pentagon and surrounding areas for 5 years. I may have talked to you at some point during a cross-country as we were passing through Cleveland Center. I am an engineer by designation and training, albeit a systems engineer, but having been in and around aviation for most of my adult life I have more than a passing interest in all this.
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Abe Linkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 10:35 AM
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16. I thought so. Thanks. Now, it all makes a lot more sense. n/t
n/t
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 11:34 AM
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17. I, for one, am glad you're here.
Some may think that your background automatically makes you some "government plant" (see the post above this one), but they make the same claims about anybody with some actual qualifications.

Welcome!

:hi:
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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 11:04 AM
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19. A confession.
My sole interest in posting on DU is in countering all and sundry 9/11 skeptics. I have all necessary credentials, as follows:

1. I have soi-disant expertise in a relevant field, and they don't.

2. I have read all the latest official gov't reports proving most 9/11 issues have been addressed and answered satisfactorily by the same govt, and I more or less wholly concur with their conclusions.

3. No CT's in history hold up to scrutiny, except for my favorite, the 9/11 Official CT. I have no real interest in what happened to JFK, reading up on the Warren Commission, or any other previous official investigation.

4. Elections are always corrupt. The 2000 election and the most recent are par for the course. Nothing to be overly concerned with, save some possible irregularities in Florida.

5. I very rarely criticize or find fault with the present illegal occupant of the White House, or provide clear answers to any queries re my politics simply because it isn't relevant. But remember, my professional expertise gives me more credibility than you, because I say I am a professional.

5. I am a liberal Democrat. I am only interested in the truth.

SIGNED: your user name here
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Abe Linkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 11:24 AM
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20. 2nd that emotion, tangledwebb.
May I just add that I voted for Kerry, so you know I'm honest...mostly.
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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 11:50 AM
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21. But have you been to coledge?
Or driven by the P-gon, or flown in airplanes? Moi aussi.

I DID vote for a Republican, once, years ago, and on the local level, but never for a Republican prez- though Teddy Roosevelt might have been acceptable.

I know that may seem a strange confession from ex-CIA physicist/demolition expert/jet pilot/ architect/ photograper/ reporter/ eyewitness/ leftie lawyer...but trust me, it's true.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 04:29 PM
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Sweet Pea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 05:42 PM
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24. A little credibility....
goes a long way I have found, when you speak of things you are familiar with. Nothing more than that offered - nor expected.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:26 AM
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25. I'm glad you guys are here as well.
It's truly a fascinating breed who selflessly spend hour after hour monitoring public forums for any potentially explosive deviation from conventional groupthink and have both the will and skill to utilize all means of rhetorical sophistry in their tireless quest to quell any and all who would dare think so ill of authority as to question it.
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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:38 AM
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26. Well put.
Now if only the self-same soi-disant experts in relevant fields would please post their stories on this thread.
No need to wait for OBL and his band of evildoers to chime in, I'm really not too concerned about them.
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vincent_vega_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:00 PM
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27. I would love to know your credentials stickdog.
Honestly I would.
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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 12:03 PM
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22. How do you know who hit the alert?
n/t
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 11:12 PM
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12. 9/11 Truth Justice --Google!
The best Google search you can possibly run is just those three words "9/11 Truth Justice". That search will give you page after page of revolutionary, informative, enlightening results!
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 10:15 AM
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18. Separate Thread for each major actor
How about a separate thread for each major player in the 9/11 charade, complete with a unique timeline for that person, along with their public statements and news reports that either confirm or contradict the statements.

The timelines would go back as far as necessary for each individual and continue to the present.

As a starter list: GW Bush, Cheney, Rummy, Gen. Meyers, Rudy Giuliani, Mohammed Atta, Osama bin Laden, Condi Rice, Richard Clarke, George Tenet, Porter Goss, Mahmud Ahmad, etc., etc., etc.

Threads also needed:

1) indsider trading on the days just before 9/11

2) the 9/11 Commission - complete bios of each member of the commission including a discussion of their conflicts of interest

3) the role of the international drug trade in all this - especially the Taliban's destruction of the Afgan poppy crop in early 2001

4) War games, drills, and other military exercises on or in the months before 9/11
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vincent_vega_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:12 PM
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28. I am
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 09:13 PM by vincent_vega_lives
http://www.northeastern.edu College educated

http://www.benning.army.mil/airborne/airborne/ Parachute educated

http://www.knox.army.mil/school/ Heavy metal educated

Also educated in the finer arts of http://www.branchorientation.com/fieldartillery/home.html things that go bang

18 years of education all told.
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