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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 08:39 PM
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Interview with Former MI5 Agent Annie Machon-- False-Flag Attacks and Intel Control of the Media
A fascinating, must-see interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PgQr6uYF00
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 01:09 PM
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1. An oldie but a goodie...
thought I'd recognized the name of Annie Machon.

Meet The No Planers by Brendan O'Neill

At first sight, David Shayler and Annie Machon's home in Highgate - the leafiest of London's leafy suburbs - looks like a picture of middle-class respectability. There are Japanese landscape paintings on the living-room walls. Shelves groan under the weight of hardback novels and books on politics. An Alsatian with a well-kept, glossy coat looks on curiously as Belinda McKenzie - the grandmotherly landlady of the house - serves tea in china cups with a plate of delicious shortbread biscuits. "Enjoy," she says in a soft, plummy English accent.

Then you notice the curiosities. On the table sits a document about the "controlled demolition" of the twin towers. The shelves hold books titled The 9/11 Commission Report: omissions and distortions and The New Pearl Harbor: disturbing questions about the Bush administration and 9/11. There's a stack of colourful leaflets advertising a club night called Truth 9/11, to take place in Brixton in a week's time, the "11" in "9/11" represented by two tall stereo speakers. DVDs litter a work desk. One is called 7/7: mind the gap. The cover of another, titled Loose Change, asks: "What if 9/11 were an inside job rather than the work of al-Qaeda . . . ?"

This cluttered house in the heart of respectable, latte-drinking Highgate doubles as the hub of the British and Irish 9/11 Truth Campaign. It's a loose group, founded in January 2004, which suspects precisely that 9/11 was an "inside job", organised and executed by a "shadowy elite" made up of individuals from the FBI, the CIA, the arms industry and politics. Shayler and Machon - the boyfriend-and-girlfriend former spies who famously left MI5 in 1996 after becoming disgruntled - are its leading lights. They've gone from being the Posh and Becks of the whistle-blowing world to something very like the Richard and Judy of the 9/11 conspiracy-theory set.

Sitting on the comfy couch, their cups of tea in hand, they try to convince me that the 11 September 2001 attacks were executed by elements in the west who wanted to launch wars and "make billions upon trillions of dollars".


Article from 2006. http://www.newstatesman.com/200609110028

Sid

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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 01:33 PM
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2. she's in wikipedia too
and her partner Shayler did go certifiably crazy.

But clearly the important thing is to try to discredit someone without bothering to listen to them.

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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 03:44 PM
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3. Maybe because when someone says something absolutely insane...
it's hard to take their "theories" seriously.

It's like if someone said "We never went to the moon, the moon may actually be a giant spaceship, and the Earth is under quarantine by an alien race".
If someone said that, you would think them crazy, right?
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 08:07 PM
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4. she didn't say anything insane at all
her former boyfriend did.

Nice try though!
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 08:54 PM
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5. of course it isn't insane to you
ever wonder why?

"The Pentagon's anti-missile defence system would definitely have picked up and dealt with a commercial airliner. We can only assume that whatever hit the Pentagon was sending a friendly signal. A missile fired by a US military plane would have sent a friendly signal."

Really? Seriously?
Crazy talk.
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-11 09:03 PM
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6. I was referring to the YouTube interview
that anti-missile defence quote is a bit dumb, but not exactly what I would call crazy.
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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 04:28 AM
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7. "Former MI5 Agent Annie Machon"
Edited on Wed Oct-12-11 04:29 AM by OnTheOtherHand
That certainly looks like an appeal to authority. Even if it's somehow something else, it's reasonable for the rest of us to look for evidence about whether she is a reliable source before we sit through the interview.

Even if she isn't a reliable source, she might convey some useful information. But if you think she conveyed some useful information, why wouldn't you present it, instead of merely telling us that her interview is "must-see"? It's an hour long, and I don't see why anyone should have to take your word for it.

(edit for clarity)
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 09:47 AM
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8. I conveyed the "useful information" in the title
if you want more, I can tell you she talks about MI5 committing false-flag operations, and what happened when her and Shayler left and became whistleblowers. How the trial was rigged and how the media was made to mislead the public. You're certainly in your rights to question her story, but the fact is she was an intel agent and seems to have direct knowledge of various conspiracy matters. Plus, personally, I loved the way she talks.
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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 11:22 AM
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9. your comment here is more helpful
Even saying that "she talks about MI5 committing false-flag operations" is more informative, but examples would be more informative still.

I've noticed that many people who present themselves as experts end up repeating assertions that are well outside their expertise and aren't well reasoned. (For instance, Stephen Spoonamore presents himself as a computer security expert who believes that a man-in-the-middle attack was responsible for the Connally anomaly. Since I know that there wasn't a Connally anomaly, whatever expertise he possesses isn't as edifying as one might hope.) I'm not saying that's the case with Annie Machon, just that it's a reason I would hesitate to sit through an hour-long YouTube on "False-Flag Attacks and Intel Control of the Media." The closer she sticks to first-hand knowledge, the more interested I would be.
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:18 PM
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12. she does a nice job of explaining why her and Shayler left MI5
(false-flag attack in Libya) and what happened afterwards. Certainly the info from her direct experience is more reliable and interesting than the other parts. She doesn't have much enlightening to say about 9/11 or 7/7, but still I found her viewpoint worthwhile.

Usually for these videos, I play them on my phone while I drive to work or back home, since I rarely have time to sit through an hour of video otherwise. Since it's just two talking heads, there's no problem just listening to it.
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terrafirma Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 04:56 PM
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10. How is she still alive??
Why are her former employers just allowing her to spill the beans like this?
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 07:03 PM
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11. she addresses that in the interview
if you maintain a public presence, it's harder for them to knock you off
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