Vero Beach: Maybe a center of the 911 story?

Already at the evening of 911 Vero Beach and it’s Flight school Flight Safety Academy was in the very center of the FBI investigation. Adnan and Ameer Bukhari, Abdul Rahman Al Omari and Ameer Kamfar were considered to have been one of the hijackers.
(See the thread: “Meet the four unknown hijackers”) The FBI searched their houses that were next to each other and went to Flight Safety Academy and analysed the records and documents of the school.
(Fort Pierce Tribune, 9/9/02)
All four suspects had been commercial pilots for Saudi Airlines and trained at Flight Safety Academy. But as the FBI realized that Ameer Bukhari already died in a flight crash on September 11, 2000 and that Adnan was still well and alive on 911 and Abdul Rahman Al Omari back in his home country and Ameer Kamfar on the flight with arms, the FBI had to withdraw their suspicion (Who they suspected theses four remains a clear mystery till today). As soon as the suspicion against Flight Safety Academy and Vero Beach emerged it disappeared again.
But maybe there are enough reasons to have a very close look at this city and it’s flight school nonetheless…

UA 23: almost a hijack on 911 and a very strange incident on 913
United Airlines Flight 23, bound from New York to Los Angeles:
“After the plane was boarded, United Airlines officials told passengers that had been cancelled.
Three males travelling refused to disembark.
The argument with a member of the flight crew became so heated that the crew member called airport security.
But before security arrived, the men had vanished, said the source,
who spoke on the condition of anonymity.“
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/09/14/national/main311250.shtml

When on September 13 the airport were reopened the following story happened:

Authorities detained two armed groups at New York airports yesterday, fearing they intended to hijack a pair of jetliners and mount another suicidal terrorist strike on a U.S. target, government officials said.
Both groups carried knives, false identification and open tickets to U.S. destinations dated Tuesday -- the day of the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, sources said. They also had certificates from a Florida flight training school attended by some members of the previous hijacking teams, who were similarly armed when they commandeered four aircraft..
Jim Hunter, a passenger on an American Airlines flight scheduled to leave John F. Kennedy International Airport for Los Angeles yesterday, said officers with guns drawn stormed the flight from the front and rear at about 8 p.m. They handcuffed and removed three people after ordering all passengers to the floor. The flight was canceled.
(Washington Post, 9/14/01)
http://911digitalarchive.org/crr/documents/1105.pdf

And it is précised:
ABC reported that four of them had open tickets to various U.S. cities dated Sept. 11 one was arrested for posing as a United Airlines pilot.
(Plain Dealer, 9/14/01)

The missing information is:
ABC News reported that some of the people detained Thursday also had pilot licenses from Flight Safety International, a flight school in Vero Beach, Fla.
(Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, 9/14/01)
(ABC, 9/14/01)

Vero Beach.

Intriguing information in FBI affidavit
In this thread I had shown that the FBI after checking “public database” “determined” that Al Omari lived in Vero Beach (while officially Abdul Aziz lived in Hollywood and only Abdul Rahman lived in Vero Beach. But Abdul Rahman is alive in Saudi Arabia today and Abdul Aziz officially the hijacker). Moreover Atta had the right to park before Al Omari’s house in Vero Beach. Theses information never made it into the news.
Again.
Vero Beach.

The finnlist
On October 3, 2001 “a CONFIDENTIAL FBI list of 370 people suspected of helping Osama bin Laden's terrorist network has leaked out. The names, addresses, telephone numbers, e-mail, and social security codes of the suspects were posted on the internet by Finland's Financial Supervision Authority (RATA). When the error was spotted, the website was shut down. The list was put together by the FBI and European counter-terrorism agencies for use in tracking down the bank accounts, assets, and money flows of the al-Qa'eda network.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/10/06/wbush106.xml

Administration sources confirmed to UPI Thursday that a list of "close to 400 names" had been circulated to European authorities, with a request for financial and other searches. Diplomatic sources said that the list initially had been circulated to them from the U.S. Justice Department.
(UPI, 10/11/01)

When I checked it out I came across the interesting information that Ahmed Al Ghamdi (UA 175), Hamza Al Ghamdi (UA 175) and Saeed Al Ghamdi (UA 93) all had (besides other addresses) the address “Flight Safety / Vero Beach”.
http://cryptome.org/Finnlist.pdf

Yet, when you check out the list of the hijackers from September 14 and September 27 you won’t find a word of Vero Beach.
http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel01/091401hj.htm
http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel01/092701hjpic.htm

Why? Why was this address not mentioned?

And looking at this internal list one soon realizes which location had the biggest popularity for the listed suspects.
Vero Beach

Forty-seven of those named on the list apparently lived at one point in Vero Beach, Fla., the location of the Flight Safety International Academy
(UPI, 10/11/01)
There is exists another FBI list from September 2001. It’s a “list of nearly 250 people the FBI is seeking to question in its worldwide probe into the attacks Sept. 11”
(USA Today, 9/21/01)

Eight people on the FBI's watch list lived at a Vero Beach dormitory for Flight Safety International, a flight school. The same address was given by men using the names of hijackers Hamza Alghamdi and Ahmed Alghamdi, who were on the second jet that hit the World Trade Center. Six of those on the watch list are pilots certified by the Federal Aviation Administration.
(USA Today, 9/21/01)

An additional 18 of the 41 pilots on the FBI's watch list lived in the Vero Beach area , minutes away from the others.
(USA Today, 9/21/01)

Pretty impressive.
Almost half of all pilots the FBI wishes to question lived in the Vero Beach area.
And even eight lived at Flight Safety Academy.

And here comes the big questions:
How often was Vero Beach mentioned by the FBI itself?
How often figures Vero Beach in the Final Report of the Joint Inquiry?
How often is it mentioned in the Report of the Independent Commssion?
Not a single time.
Pretty strange for a city that somehow seems to have been the center of 911.

baseball team has Spring training.

I think it is close to Cape Canaveral/NASA, fwiw.

Vero Beach is certainily one of the centers maybe the center of the 911 story. And as it is completely omitted from all official investigation (no mentioning anywhere) it is a key of proving the official story to be a complete bunch of lies.

Can I ask a more general question?

How many of the 9/11 hijackers went to flight training school? It seems like a lot more than were the "pilots". Why so many? Just as a back-up or is there some other reason?

is Florida mentioned as the port for incoming drugs?
is it mentioned as home of CIA activities concerning
a) drugs
b) anti-Castro war
c) laundry of druf money

is it mentioned for flight schools and international airorts (Miami, Talahasse, Sarasota, Jacksonville, Orlando ... and so on and so on. It is full of air strips.

is it mentioned for Jeb Bush, the funny "elections" and other frauds?

Hopsicker put his smallest toe into that quagmire, and it was stinking like hell. Why should the Ommission point to the home of their friends? For sure they omitted that.

Everybody who studies a bit 911 has come across Venice (especially due to the amazing work of Hopsicker) and also the Commission Report mentiones Venice and its two famous flight schools.
But what's about Vero Beach?
It appears nowhere. And this is special about Vero Beach.
And the fact that from official side Vero Beach is completely neglected is especially striking as three alleged hijackers went to Flight Safety Academy over there. And that's what Richard Skovgaard, director of Flight Safety Academy in Vero Beach has to say:

Q: Backing up a little bit, how many of those foreign students were of Middle Eastern descent?

A: At that time, I would guess there were probably 25, give or take just a few.

Q: And they all had been screened by Saudi Arabian Airlines?

A: Yes. Most all of them were Saudi Arabian flight engineers. These are people who had been with the airline for close to 20 years. They were generally about 40 years old or so. When they came over, they would bring their wives and their children and were part of the community for, generally, about a 15-month period.

(Fort Pierce Tribune, 9/9/02)

Well, this sounds much more experienced than our poor Hani.

But this also implies: not only does the FBI completely neglect the fact that three alleged hijackers lived at Flight Safety in Vero Beach but that most likely they were Saudi Arabian flight engineers.
Should be an important info, shouldn't it?

Atta and Venice, Fl. , Rudy Rekker , drugs & flight school.

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http://www.madcowprod.com/vfcqt.html

in Sarasota 9/10? I'd be damn nervous with that flying circus down the road in Venice....

That is an amazing story, John Doe....whatever happened to those hijackers? If WP/ABC reported these events, surely there had to be a follow-up. Was it all just a misunderstanding? (/sarcasm)

And how come we never heard about arrests at the airports with regards to the hi-jackers'support teams? Didn't they have help smuggling boxcutters and guns on the planes?

However, if you want to understand Vero Beach, I think you have to look closely at Wail and Waleed Alshehri. It's a task I've recommended you to look into and I still hope you'll take it on one of these days.

Why? Because the FBI concluded not long after 9/11 that the people who studied flight school at Vero Beach were not the same people as the hijackers. It could all just be a case of mistaken identity, since many of the hijackers have names that are John Smith type names in Arabia. However, from Waleed Alshehri especially, we see so him having roommates with the names of other hijackers in the 1990's in Vero Beach so many times that it defies the odds.

Then you follow him and his father to Washington DC, and again one of his hijacker named roommates in Vero Beach lives with him in Washington, and the neighbors suspect drug dealing and all kinds of shady activity at his house. Then you find that the Waleed seen in the summer of 2001 with the other hijackers is extremely familiar with Florida, for instance being able to talk at length about his favorite team, the Marlins, suggesting he's lived there a long time. And he speaks very fluent English and German. Whereas the non-Vero Beach Waleed Alshehri was completely uneducated, couldn't speak any foreign language, and had never left his province before that summer. There's no way that guy could chat for hours about baseball with his landlord, in German no less!

So I think he is the key is getting to the bottom of the Vero Beach mystery, because if you can prove his Vero Beach background, you expose about six other hijackers as having the same background.

Here's what I suspect happened. Al-Qaeda's training of pilots began very early. For instance, an AP story notes that an al-Qaeda defector revealed to US intelligence in 1995 that there were 10 pilots being trained in the US by then. Florida would be one logical node for such training. Nabil Al-Marabh, in my opinion one of the masterminds of the plot, was secretly living in Tampa, Florida in the late 1990s until Feb. 2000, while pretending to live in Boston, and investigators suspected him of being an advance man for the hijackers.

These guys who trained at Vero Beach flight schools in the 1990's - Ahmed Alnami, Ahmed Alghamdi, Hamed Alghamdi, and Saeed Alghamdi - are the same bunch who all had the Pensacola Air Force Base as their address on their Florida driver's licenses, and trained with the US military. If I'm not mistaken, at one time or another, all four of those guys were roommates of Waleed Alshehri in Vero Beach in the mid 1990's!

After all those years in the US, they probably had all kinds of deep ties to all kinds of things, including other al-Qaeda cells. So a bunch of fresh faces are brought in the summer of 2001, either picked because of their name similarities with the existing, trained pilots, or they use stolen identities with those names. Al-Qaeda wants the cover story to protect their other people, and the US is happy to go along to hide the ties the US military training and other embarrassing facts.

I still think Waleed and Wail are the key to all this, but I just haven't had time to give it the attention it deserves.

Thanks Paul for the very interesting answer.
As bizzare as it is but theses two guys never crossed my way while examining Vero Beach. And after I've finsihed two issues I'm just working on I'll go for them...
Your explanation is interesting as it manages to explain several issues. Yet, the point that struck me most in the Vero Beach story isn't explained: The fact that Atta had a direct connection to Vero Beach and Abdul Rahman Al Omari. This puts the already incredibly unexplanaible story of Bukhari 1 Co in a different light. Somehow the only reason why Abdul Rahman shouldn't be the alleged hijacker of AA 11 is the fact that the very same person iss alive beyound a shadow of a doubt. And to let me stress this: Not somebody with the same name whose identity might have been stolen and that might be different from the alleged hijackers but the Abdul Rahman alive in Saudi Arabia is definitily the same person as the one who lived in Vero Beach.

I don't see the link you're talking about. The fact that Atta had the right to park in the same neighborhood? That's hardly any thing significant.

You have to figure this: the hijackers must have had at least some passing connection to the Bukharis, this other Abdul Rahman, etc, to know they were the ideal people to steal identification from to create at least short term identity confusion. For instance, knowing that a couple of them were moving back to Saudi Arabia just before 9/11. I'm sure with several hundred or maybe thousand Muslim flight school students in the area, it wouldn't have been hard to learn about such things and bump into each other.

Another point to keep in mind: I think the flight schools in Vero Beach teach something like one fourth of the highest level of flight training in the US, so it isn't that surprising for there to be so many hijacking connections there. What's surprising is that the investigators stopped looking there.

Re-reading a FBI-affidavit that was written in the morning of September 12, 2001 in Portland I came across two very intriguing pieces of information that completely contradict everything the FBI has said publicly since September 14, 2001.


"A review of the public database for Al Omari has determined that his adress is reported as 4032 57th terrace, Vero Beach, Florida." <:i>
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/atta/resources/documents...

So, surprise surprise « A review of the public database for Al Omari » didn’t « determine » that ha lived in Hollywood as stated by the FBI on September 14 http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel01/091401hj.htm
and on September 27
http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel01/092701hjpic.htm
No, “ review of the public database for Al Omari” didn’t come up with the address of Abdulaziz Al Omari, the “official hijacker”, but with the exact address of Abdul Rahman Al Omari!
Please keep in mind that the very same affidavit also mentions the items found in Atta’s two bags that didn’t make the connection flight in Boston.
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/atta/resources/documents...
So even if according to the FBI Al Omari was listed with the first name Abdul
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/atta/resources/documents...
on the flight manifest the total error of the FBI can hardly be explained as they were in possession of Al Omari’s passport.
http://www.9-11commission.gov/archive/hearing7/9-11Comm...


And here's a strong link that ties Atta to Abdul Rahman and Vero Beach:


"Alomari had listed two vehicles as authorized to park in his parking space. One of this vehicles is registered to Atta.
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/atta/resources/documents...
and
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/atta/resources/documents...

So, Atta doesn't have a random parking place in Vero Beach but the one of Al Omari. And Atta is not just one of many people who have the right to use the parking place but just one of two.

Therefore it doesn't seem that Atta just randomly knew Abdul Rahman but very well.
Why then was Abdul Rahman never interviewed. Nor any neighbours (Bukhari etc): They all should have seen Atta?

Abdul Rahman was interviewed on CNN and he says about having been considered as a 911 hijacker till September 14:

ABDUL RAHMAN ALOMARI, SAUDI ARABIAN AIRLINES: It was painful for me, for my family, for my kids in school. My pictures were all over the world.
(CNN, 9/21/01)

Even with the kind help of Paul Thompson I wasn't able to find a single photo of Abdul Rahman. Why?
The only explanation that seems logical is that in fact the photo is all over the world, the photo from Abdulaziz from Hollywood, is in fact the photo from Abdul Rahman.
And what does this say about him being with Atta in Portland taking cash from a bank machine as clearly seen on the only close up photo of him from Portland....?

I dont know if this quote of Chicago Tribune was alsready presented:
Abdulaziz Alomari--The FBI believes Alomari was a pilot and possibly lived in Hollywood, Fla. The Boston Globe reported Thursday that Flight 11's passenger manifest showed that an Abdulrahman Alomari was sitting next to Mohamed Atta in the business section.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0109150152sep15.story

Does anybody knows the Link of the Boston Globe article?

On this page are photos of Alomari:
http://www.freespeechradio.net/tinfoil.html

The left Alomari is the survival.


On the ATM-Photo we can see clearly a scar on Alomaris left cheek. On the FBI-picture we can recognize the scar also on his left cheek.
When the Photo of the survival Alomari is mirror-inverted, we can see this scar exactly on the same place on his cheek!
Only the head of the "dead" Alomari looks to me a little bit smaller, but it can deceive me. The nose looks similar to me.

Is the dead and the survival Alomari one person?
What do you think?