One-Time GOP Insider Claims He Has Sept. 11 ‘Smoking Gun’

A former Republican Party insider turned Bush basher thinks he has stumbled across what may be the “smoking gun,” proving the U.S. government’s official story about the WTC attacks is an “unequivocal lie.”

Karl Schwarz of Little Rock, Ark., who several years ago began exposing corruption amongst the neo-conservative movement in a book entitled A One-Way Ticket to Crawford, Texas, now has set his sights on proving government complicity in 9-11.

For years, the successful business entrepreneur and conservative Republican, once asked by the RNC to run against Bill Clinton for Arkansas governor, has been using his inside political and business clout to expose corruption among the neo-cons in the Bush administration.

He strayed away from the Bush agenda two years after being one of the lead orchestrators in the Republican Party takeover of Congress during the Clinton administration.

“I designed the strategy that took the House and Senate from Clinton,” recalls Schwarz, also a strong supporter and strategist for President George H. W. Bush. “I designed that takeover two years before I realized the Republican ‘Contract with America’ was actually a ‘Contract on America.’ ”

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Now, moving away from financial corruption, he has turned his attention to the 9-11 truth movement, saying he has found a piece of obscure video footage that shows that the government lied about what type of plane struck the south tower of the WTC.

Schwarz admits he had a “whole lot” of luck when running across the video footage in a French foreign film entitled The Barbarian Invasion.

Contained in the film unrelated to 9-11, is a 1 minute, 52 second, video segment, shot by an unknown amateur photographer at the WTC, which Schwartz says clearly shows a Boeing 737 airliner striking the south tower.

“We tracked down the filmmaker and he acquired the original WTC segment from the Canadian News Service,” said Schwarz, adding that he has had the tape analyzed by experts proving it’s not a fake. “We are tracking down the original photographer and want to get to him before the government does in order to prove its authenticity.

“This segment, however, conclusively shows a 737 hit the south tower, not a 767 as previously reported. This in itself should be the smoking gun, which proves the whole story given to us by the government about 9-11 is untrue.”

Originally, the government claimed the second jetliner en route to Los Angeles was a Boeing 767. However, Schwarz said the video will not only show the airline dimensions to be those of a 737, but that he also has evidence that the engine recovered in the WTC wreckage was a model type CFM56, which propels a 737, not a 767.

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http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/one-time_gop_insider.html

Why is it so important that it was a 737 and not a 767?

:shrug:

I think it has always been reported that these were 767s with flight details. So why lie about the type of plane???

that they lied about other things as well. If they'd lie about something like this who knows what they could lie about. Remember when Cheney lied about not knowing Edwards? So they'd lie about anything to protect their own asses. This could help to open up the case again. Who knows what else this guy knows.

And the FAA is positive what took off, a 767. Also the towers were designed to withstand the strike of a 707 which is very close to the size of the 767 and much larger than a 737. That factor would substantially alter the dynamics of the tower collapse.

The towers were brought down by the fires leading to softening and sagging of the floor girders and their connections to the vertical frame/shell that held it up.

The size of the airplane was not a critical factor. The building withstood the initial impact and even though the larger plane took out more vertical framework, it would not have affected the eventual result other than perhaps the time it took to develop.

While the larger plan theoretically had more fuel that was dispersed that contributed to the initial fire, the fire was subsequently fed by internal materials.

there were bombs as well.

That's paranoid speculation ... at best.

Were you there?

Here Spinner and and Why don't you let me know if this inadequate. I am sure given the time we can get the design specifications for the towers.

“I am conservative, fiscally responsible, an ecumenical Christian and an American patriot who clearly understands fascism and clearly sees this is exactly what is going on within the Bush administration."

Since the Bush Junta is not a Conservative cabal many actual Conservatives are concerned about the take over of the U.S. Govt. by Corporatives.

the only reason why they think he is conservative is because he has an (r) on his name and he says a few Bible scriptures and talks about God and Jesus. They're fooled and have forgotten what a real conservative is. Even Ronald Reagan is more a conservative then Bush. He slipped through because it was easy to slip through the republican party because they talk so much about "moral values."

Glad to have you aboard. Conservative.:)

The dimensions of the aircraft in the WTC strike videos are easy to determine because of all the points of reference around them.

It is a 767 - and this is not an easy aircraft to confuse for a 737. The sizes are grossly different, as is the wing span and even the shape of the wings.

767

Length (767-200) 159.17 ft (48.51 m)
(767-300) 201.33 ft (54.99 m)
(767-400ER) 242.33 ft (61.42 m)
Wingspan (767-200) 156.08 ft (47.57 m)
(767-300) 156.08 ft (47.57 m)
(767-400ER) 170.33 ft (51.97 m)
Height (767-200) 52.00 ft (15.85 m)
(767-300) 52.00 ft (15.85 m)
(767-400ER) 55.33 ft (16.88 m)



737

Length (737-200) 100.17 ft (30.53 m)
(737-300) 109.58 ft (33.40 m)
(737-700) 110.33 ft (33.63 m)
Wingspan (737-200) 93.0 ft (28.35 m)
(737-300) 94.75 ft (28.88 m)
(737-700) 112.58 ft (34.31 m)
Height (737-200) 37.0 ft (11.28 m)
(737-300) 36.50 ft (11.13 m)
(737-700) 36.50 ft (11.13 m)



Not to mention the towers were more than rated to withstand a 737.

737 is simply inconsistant with everything observed. This is not only tinfoil, it is extremely weak tinfoil.

And this should be in the 9/11 forum.

I just thought of something. Would this mean they lied about the people on the plane or something? So what happened with the passengers of that one flight? I'm so confused.

There has been some controversy that it could have been a 767-300 as the fore section of the fuselage seems too long for a 767-200.

just the eagerness of the bushmush media to sell a certain idea about what happened, their endless lies since then (oh c'mon, the mediawhore has ALWAYS lied!) says clearly 'we lie to live to lie...!' and smokes like anus coulter on a beach...the nazipoo media is public enemy number one

So amazing. I hope he goes through this and I hope he has safety protecting him!

Don't even bother taking this fellow seriously. It's some mix of distraction and stupid fixation, all in the service of mythology.

Grassy Knoll-erism is an industry in the Heartland. I'd guess as a regional cultural feature it goes back the crimes commited during Mormon passage through (which people distorted to keep their pretense to purity intact) and Confederate revisionism, and these days it serves the cult/tribalist parts of society, i.e. Religious Right.

..until he explains what happened to the 767 that took off from (Boston?Flt#?) and the plane load of passengers that boarded THAT 767, I remain a skeptic.

There is absolutely no way that the Government could arrange for a phantom commercial 767 to depart from a modern american airport and then either a) Not arrive at the destination, or b) arrive safely AT the destination when the rest of the World thinks it crashed into the WTC.

:shrug:

John F. Kennedy died when I was 6 and I am now almost 48 and we still don't know shit.

arrange for a phantom commercial 767 to depart from a modern american airport and then either"

are you sure?

here's your answers:

a) http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf

b) http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf

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Born in July 1926, Carto has for nearly five decades been a leading figure in the American “right wing.” In 1955 he founded Liberty Lobby, a “populist” organization that for years published a nationally-circulated tabloid weekly, The Spotlight. (Both are no longer in existence.) He plays a key role running American Free Press, a tabloid paper founded in August 2001 that is the successor to The Spotlight. He also founded and controls The Barnes Review.

You might ask who is Willis Carto

http://www.williscarto.com/carto.html

Carto was a for a brief period a member of the far right John Birch Society, until he allegedly fell out with the group's founder, Robert Welch, because Carto's antisemitic views were too extreme for even the John Birch Society. In 1958 Carto created a "pressure group for patriotism", which then formed the basis for the Liberty Lobby.

My advice is to use anything from AFP as a cyber birdcage liner.

American Free Press is associated with revisionist/hate theories and individuals and is not considered credible for use on DU.