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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 01:04 AM
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Anybody seen 9/11: The Greatest Lie Ever Sold?
It's a great documentary. I downloaded it at http://www.mininova.org in the documentary section. It's simply amazing and shows how Bush was involved in it with relatives and whatnot. There's also a section where a guy working on the clearing at the site said they arrived late Monday night and started working Tuesday morning. 9/11 was on a Tuesday! They also interview people who were at the site and talk about bombs going off and three big explosions. It shows how Bush's cousin was involved. There's also Phil Berg's court hearing and his suit. After this another woman is interviewed and she claims she met a CIA agent (no name given) that they knew the exact time and place of the 9/11 attacks. I don't want to give away the whole movie though. Just wondering if anybody else has seen it.
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 01:22 AM
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1. Haven't seen it but
The revelations don't surprise me. There are sooo many questions about 911 that have not been answered, and probably never will be. Like, why did members of FEMA's emergency response team arrive the previous day? That's a Government outfit, so some one in the damned lieing ass government HAD to have prior knowledge. Why did the Air Force take so long to respond when they KNEW that three airliners had been hijacked? They sure as hell didn't take that long last week when that little private plane strayed over D.C. There are just too many fishy things about that disaster that have not been addressed. The events of 911 have Uncle Sam's fingerprints all over them, and the "official inquiry" was a scam and a whitewash.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 01:23 AM
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2. Exactly
The movie is really good and goes a little farther then Moore's movie. Moore's is a good movie to get started on everything and isn't as hard-core as this one and some of Jones' movie's.
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 01:30 AM
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3. I have great respect for Mr. Moore
Edited on Wed May-18-05 01:42 AM by libhill
However, I think he pulled too many punches in his film. He skated around the issue of B.F.E.E. and Government involvement, and he surely knows better. I'm not saying that Fahrenheit 911 was a bad film, I just think that someone in this country with money and clout needs to start asking questions that need to be asked. Or we'll be debating this thing for another 40 years, just like the J.F.K, murder.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 01:41 AM
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4. Yep
I wish some of these other filmmakers could do what Moore did. Why aren't they more focal?
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 01:46 AM
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5. Fear, politics, money
Edited on Wed May-18-05 01:48 AM by libhill
or - all of the above. Experience has taught people old enough to remember, that people who dig too deep into Government skullduggery make poor insurance risks. Might end up dead at your keyboard with one of those hastily type written, C.I.A. standard issue "suicide notes". Witness all of the people who turned up dead for talking too much or digging too deep into the J.F.K. thing.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 01:50 AM
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6. I'd say fear more than anything
Even JFK's own son couldn't look into his father's death.
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 01:53 AM
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7. Can't blame him
He might have ended up in Hudson Bay in a pair of cement galoshes.
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 02:02 AM
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9. Or in an airplane at the bottom of Martha's Vineyard.
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 02:08 AM
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10. Wellll
Edited on Wed May-18-05 02:13 AM by libhill
I am a conspiracy believer, but - in that case, I think it really was pilot error, just as they said. But in the good ol' U.S. of A., who really knows?
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 02:30 AM
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14. I agree. Just thought it was funny that someone would suggest he
might die under mysterious circumstances (which he did).
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 01:59 AM
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8. One more thing
Edited on Wed May-18-05 01:59 AM by libhill
before I turn in for the night - call me a tinfoil hatter, conspiracy freak, what ever - but I think Senator Paul Wellstone was murdered too. But that, as they say, is a whole 'nother story.
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 02:29 AM
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13. What is the evidence that Wellstone was murdered?
FYI, I found an article on U.S. politicians who have died in private aircraft. It references Paul Wellstone (D), Mel Carnahan (D), Jerry Litton (D), John Heinz (R), John Tower (retired at the time of his death)(R), Hale Boggs (D), Nicholas Begich (D), Mickey Leland (D), Ron Brown (D).

Here's the link:

http://www.sonoran-sunsets.com/wellstone.html
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 05:18 PM
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22. For one thing -
the majority of them are Dems - that doesn't tell you anything?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 02:37 AM
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15. In the film
it shows a guy in Ireland who is talking about something he thinks could possibly happen. So far the "management" have been successful in a lot of their plans since 9/11 by using fear and destroying enemies. They've gotten the "Patriot Act" and "Real ID Act" through successfully. This guy thinks that if they want to declare martial law the only way they could do that is by killing Bush themselves. According to him they tried with Reagan but were unsccessfull. Also according to this film Bush senior's "Skull & Bones" name is Megacog (sp?) which is the Santanic powers that wage war against God and the rightous at the end of the world. On September 11, 1991 Bush senior introduced to the Senate the "new world order." Coincidence? I don't think so. His speech is as follows: "What is at stake is more than one small country it is a big idea. A new world order where diverse nation's are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal asperation's of man kind. Peace and security, freedom and the rule of law." A man from Dallas Texas was interviewed in this film and according to him those who participated in 9/11 believe that God in the Bible shouldn't be ruler of our world and that's what the new world order is about. It's a 1,000 rule reign where Lucifer/Satan/Devil rule the world. He wrote a book called "The Unseen Hand." They believe there's no such thing as murder where often times one man if not many men could be sacraficied. According to man law's and God's law's that is called murder. When you willingly sacrafice someone you "push the virgin into the volcano."
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 05:22 PM
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23. Could be that
there you have it - Bush Sr., Anti - Christ, Bush Jr., "the Beast".
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 02:11 AM
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11. Every little bit helps...and this WILL explode
Something as detrimental to authentic democracy and as rationally disprovable as the official 9/11 myth simply cannot survive within democracy. Instead, society INEVITABLY reaches a bifurcation/choice point where either the the official 9/11 myth is destroyed to preserve democracy, or democracy is destroyed to preserve the official 9/11 myth. We are rapidly approaching that choice point...whether we get democracy or fascism entirely depends on what we do NOW!

So much cover-up has gone on, and yet it is all futile unless freedom of expression is eliminated. People need to think again, and make their final choice of which side they are on.
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 02:17 AM
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12. I'd agree with that, but
it would certainly help if our media and press would get some nuts and start asking some serious questions, rather than towing the Government line like servile cowards. I haven't seen much in the media the last four or five years that really impresses me.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 02:39 AM
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16. Of course they won't
Why would they do that?? Ugh.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 09:13 AM
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18. I wish I shared your optimism.
I don't believe that there are alot of "myth doubters" out there. Not where I live in San Diego. As a matter of fact, I am the only one I know. How in the world will 9-11 truth explode?
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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 08:55 AM
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17. Thanks
Edited on Wed May-18-05 09:27 AM by k-robjoe
But I can´t find it...
Could you give some more instructions how to get to it?

On edit : Found it. Thanks.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 06:16 PM
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25. If you're meaning the film
Edited on Wed May-18-05 06:16 PM by FreedomAngel82
just go to http://www.mininova.org In the top menu bar on the page point your mouse over "movies" and look for the documentary section and then click on that. Scroll down until you find the film. I believe it's near the top since the title starts with a number. You need the bit torrent download program to download the movie.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 11:19 AM
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19. I am a subscriber to PrisonPlanet.tv and it's available there
for subscribers. Starting to watch it right now. So far it goes miles and miles beyond F9/11.

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 01:32 PM
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20. What are you watching?
This movie or "Road to Tyranny"? Is "Martial Law" any good? If you visit http://www.mininova.org you can download a lot of the films there in the documentary section.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 04:37 PM
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21. Greatest Lie Ever Sold. I actually downloaded it from PPTV and
Edited on Wed May-18-05 04:38 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
copied it to CD to finish watching it on my laptop.

Road to Tyranny is great in the beginning and then Jones scares the bejesus out of me with talk of concentration camps etc. Martial Law doesn't seem to be about that as much as it is about 9/11 and Jones taking on the left and the right. He's a Libertarian.
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 05:27 PM
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24. In point of fact
Edited on Wed May-18-05 05:28 PM by libhill
there are a lot of concentration camps (empty ones) that have been set up around the country. Don't have a link, but Google "concentration camp / F.E.M.A." and you might come up with something.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 06:37 PM
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27. I know they are around. Rex84.
Edited on Wed May-18-05 06:38 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
Like an ostrich, I just don't quite want to face the possibility of that happening here.
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 07:34 PM
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28. With Republican Neo-Cons
running the country, anything could happen. These people are nuts, and the Constitution doesn't mean crap to them, unless they can use it for political gain. Like when they're sucking up to the N.R.A. about the right to keep and bear scud missile launchers.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 08:43 PM
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29. It's not just Republicans. There are Democrats that are sleeping with
them. Enabling this to happen too. How many Democrats didn't stand up against the Rice appointment for Secretary of State? How many Democrats didn't challenge the stolen election?
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 09:12 PM
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30. Which stolen election -
Election 2000 or the recent one?
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 11:24 PM
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32. Both. nt
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 06:16 PM
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26. Ah
I wasn't sure what Jones was. I figured he was more independent then anything.
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 11:17 PM
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31. Jones may be
a Libertarian, but anyone investigating 9/11 can be of help, regardless of their politics. And Libertarians, as someone stated, don't care anymore for the right than they do for us lefties. "Politics make strange bed fellows".
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