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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 08:19 AM
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Proposal - A New 9/11 Commission that is made up of Citizens
The 9/11 Commission Report was not unbiased, if you remember that shortly before the report was released, the Bush Administration sort of cut out anything that they didn't want America to know.

An Ultra-Conservative WH linked to Neo-Cons cut the truth out from the Report. That is why we need another one.

I need about 10 people to join me, using only public knowledge and a little mental process I call 'filling in the gaps while staying away from Occam's Razor', I think we can discover the truth. This time, there will be no black marker to cover up the truth.


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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 09:21 AM
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1. Here is one model.
Los Angeles Citizens’ Grand Jury Preliminary Findings
October 31, 2004

Given the failure of the House Subcommittee on Terrorism and Homeland Security (May 2002), the House-Senate Joint Intelligence Community Investigation (December 2002), and the United Kingdom Government dossier (October2001), the Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (also known as the Kean-Hamilton 9/11 Commission Report (July 2004), to establish the truth and create accountability about the tragic events of September 11, 2001, the Los Angeles Citizens’ Grand Jury convened on October 23, 2004 in the County of Los Angeles, State of California, USA and hereby returns the following findings on October 31, 2004:

I. That the official account of the events of September 11, 2001 is physically impossible, untenable, contradictory, fraudulent, and ignores vast bodies of relevant and pertinent evidence. It must, therefore, be rejectedas a propaganda fabrication designed to favor the unleashing of aggressive war, while hiding the activity of a treasonous cabal of high-level elected and appointed civilian U.S. government and military officials, and private and/or contracted third parties and rogue agents under their known or unknown direction yet to be determined who both actively prepared, promoted, organized, assisted, fomented, and/or passively favored the September 11 attacks and supported the cover-up that followed.

II. Concerning the official story elaborated by the 9/11 Keane Commission Report of July 2004, the UK Government dossier of October 2001, and statements by US and UK government officials and echoed by the mainstream media, we find:

A. That given significant evidence exists that as many as eight of the names of the alleged hijackers identified by the FBI shortly after the attacks, are the names of individuals who have publicly claimed to still be alive after 9/11, and the Government has not proven that ANY of the 19 names of the alleged hijackers were on any of the flight manifests of any of the four planes, and no physical evidence of any of their bodies’ remains have been reported found at any of the attack sites, evidence linking the specific identities to the incidents appears – at best – planted to assure association but implausible; the government’s assertion that the alleged 19 hijackers operated without being detected by official surveillance is untenable, and evidence is strong that the alleged hijackers – whatever their identities and whatever their involvement - acted in coordination with a faction within the government itself. The alleged hijackers were, therefore, in all probability, expendable double agents and/or patsies.

B. The government’s assertion that the four supposedly hijacked airliners were taken over and piloted by the four accused hijackers is highly implausible. The planes were in all probability guided to their targets by some form of remote access or remote control.

C. The government’s assertion that the failures of air defense were caused by the fog of war is absurd. Air defense on 9/11/2001 was in all probability intentionally sabotaged by an Inside Cabal of treasonous high-level civilian government and military officials who intended the actual hijack alerts to be initially confused with at least five emergency response exercises going on that morning.

D. The government's assertion that the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center collapsed as a result of the impact of aircraft and of the subsequent fire is physically impossible. The fall of the Towers cannot be explained without the hypothesis of a controlled demolition by some form of explosion.

E. The government’s assertion that World Trade Center 7 collapsed at 5:20 PM EDT on September 11 purely as a result of fire is physically impossible, ignores the taped admission of Leaser Larry Silverstein that he and the fire department agreed to "pull it" and given it collapsed into its footprint in the manner of a controlled demolition that takes weeks to prepare further suggests an “inside job”.

F. The government’s assertion that United Flight 93 crashed because of actions by the hijackers or because of a struggle in the cockpit is implausible. All evidence points to the hypothesis that it was shot down by a US military aircraft and/or by the detonation of an onboard bomb.

G. The government’s inordinate delay in the establishment of a Commission to investigate the events of 9/11, their subsequent omission of significant evidence and refusal to address accountability; its refusal to investigate insider trading of American Airlines and United Airlines put options; the wholesale seizure and destruction of evidence, the systematic intimidation of witnesses by the FBI, and a series of other incidents point unmistakably to an attempted cover-up on the part of certain factions of the US government and establishment.

H. The dossier issued by the Government of the United Kingdom and the 9/11 Kean-Hamilton Commission Report should be seen as cover-ups and, therefore, as accessories-after-the-fact.

I. Given that certain individuals and institutions did significantly profit from the events of 9/11 and the ensuing “endless war on terror” that followed, and individuals who failed to do their appointed jobs, demonstrated significant incompetence and/or obstructed justice were not held accountable after gross failures; does hereby reflect motives for the crimes of 9/11, and they should be criminally investigated, held accountable for civil liability and politically condemned.

III. We the People, acting through the Los Angeles Citizens' Grand Jury, hereby demand the following seven key pieces of evidence:

A. The FBI, National Reconnaissance Office and all other agencies of the US federal government immediately release and publish in full, with no redactions, omissions, or alterations, the videotapes and satellite imagery shot between 9 AM and 12 Noon Eastern Daylight Time on September 11, 2001 by all surveillance cameras within two miles of the Pentagon and by any and all surveillance satellites bearing on the same area, including but not limited to the videotapes shot by cameras at all gas stations and the Sheraton Washington Hotel. These tapes were seized by the FBI on or shortly after 9/11, and only 5 frames of one tape have been made available to the public.

B. The Report on Responsibility for 9/11 issued by the Inspector General of the Central Intelligence Agency and currently suppressed by CIA Director Porter Goss at the behest of the Administration be immediately released in full to the public, with no redactions, omissions, alterations, or deletions.

C. Any and all documents generated by and in relation to the entity variously referred to as The Office of National Preparedness (ONP) and/or The Office of National Preparedness “Counter-Terrorism Task Force" created by George W. Bush by Presidential Order on May 8, 2001, and overseen by Vice President Richard Cheney, be immediately released and published in full, including the full text and any secret protocols of that Presidential Order with no redactions, omissions, deletions, or alterations. The Citizens' Grand Jury demands the results of a complete and thorough search of the files of all 46 federal agencies, including but not limited to the Office of National Preparedness, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), the CIA, NORAD, the NRO, and the Department of Defense, whose Counter-Terrorism Preparedness and Consequence Management Activities Pertaining to Domestic (on U.S. territory) Terror Attacks, which, according to press reports, were made subject to oversight and coordination by Vice President Cheney under the auspices of the above named Presidential Order; that all of these agencies and any other(s) also overseen by Vice President Cheney under the May 8, 2001 Presidential Order release all logs, documents, and other records relevant to the said Cheney "Counter-Terrorism Task Force." This demand specifically also includes the full and un-redacted text of all drafts as well as any final report of the Cheney "Counter-Terrorism Task Force" which, according to press accounts, was scheduled to be completed and delivered on or about October 1, 2001.

D. All US federal government agencies release any and all documents, records, logs, and all otherinformation regarding any and all war games, drills, emergency response exercises, maneuvers and related activities either held on and/or planned in advance for September 11, 2001 and the week before and after that date, be they headquarters, staff, computer and/or other simulation, field training, or live-fly exercises, pertaining to any and all exercises taking place on or about September 11, 2001, or in the time immediately previous and/or subsequent to that date, including but not limited to:

1. Amalgam Virgo

2. Vigilant Guardian

3. Vigilant Warrior

4. Northern Vigilance

5. Northern Guardian

6. Tripod II, New York City

7. Drill at the National Reconnaissance Office, Chantilly VA

E. The Justice Department immediately release and publish in full, with no redactions, omissions, or alterations the 60-70 page monograph Supplement to the 9/11 Kean-Hamilton Commission Report produced by the Commission’s investigators, which has been withheld for two months by Attorney General Ashcroft’s Justice Department, dealing with the “movements of the hijacked airliners and the response or lack of response of the government” and “revisits other subjects in the Commission’s final report of July – telephone calls made from the hijacked airplanes, airline security and orders issued that morning by President Bush and VP Dick Cheney”…”also finds shortcomings in the Transportation Security Administration”. First revealed in the New York Times Oct. 31, 2004, the Commission has drawn from this “unpublished part of the inquiry and quietly asked inspector generals at the Departments of Defense & Transportation to review what it had determined were broadly inaccurate accounts provided by several civil and military officials about efforts to track and chase the hijacked aircraft on September 11”.

F. The Inspector Generals of the Departments of Defense and Transportation immediately release and publish in full, with no redactions, omissions, or alterations’ their research and findings regarding the 60-70 page Supplement to the 9/11 Kean-Hamilton Commission Report for, as David Barnes, spokesperson with the Dept of Transportation said, “if the reviews found wrongdoing, the Inspector General could recommend administrative penalties or ask federal prosecutors to begin a criminal investigation”.

G. The FBI, FAA, NORAD and the Dept of Transportation release and publish in full, with no redactions, omissions, or alterations the contents of all black boxes retrieved from the four crash sites of September 11, 2001 and all records of ground-to-cockpit communications of the allegedly hijacked American Airlines flights #11 and #77 and United Airlines flights # 93 and #175.

IV. Henceforth, the tragedies of September 11, 2001 and the ensuing anthrax attacks be related to as crimes where motive, means and opportunity be considered and appropriate criminal, civil and political penalties be pursued commensurate with the preponderance of evidence of perjury, treason, mass murder, and high crimes against humanity, where appropriate.

V. An Independent International Truth Commission will be quickly convened and empanelled to refute the fabrications, falsifications, omissions, and distortions of the Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United Statesalso known as the Kean-Hamilton 9/11 Commission Report, and to establish the evidentiary basis for a truthful, objective, and accurate account of those events that inflicted death and injury to citizens of 83 countries on September 11, 2001 and have been used to justify an illegal war on a sovereign nation, Iraq, and on Afghanistan.

We, therefore, call upon statesmen, thinkers, journalists, investigators, artists, scientists, jurists, academics, humanitarians, religious leaders, activists and other eminent personalities from around the world to form an Independent International Truth Commission dedicated to truth, accountability, re-examination of lost liberties justified by the official story of 9/11 and further intending to prevent unproven assertions about 9-11 from moving the world ever closer to “endless war”. This Independent International Truth Commission should be convened by the Los Angeles Citizens' Grand Jury on 9/11, the presenters to the Citizens’ Grand Jury, and its conveners, 911TruthLA.us, in collaboration with concerned citizens around the world at various sites internationally, as yet to be determined.

VI. We the People, expressing as the Los Angeles Citizens’ Grand Jury on 9/11, its Presenters and Conveners, do hereby agree to re-convene to review further sworn testimony and evidence to determine if sufficient evidence exists of probable cause to indict specific individuals of the crimes on and cover-up surrounding September 11, 2001 and to publish its findings; and do further hereby encourage Citizens’ Grand Juries to be formed throughout the world to demand truth and accountability that will lead to re-claiming liberties and stopping the “endless war on terror” rationalized by the events of September 11, 2001.

The draft text of this indictment was presented and agreed to by the Los Angeles Citizens’ Grand Jury on October 23, 2004; modified in the spirit of thoroughness and clarification from October 24-31, 2004 and approved by members of the Los Angeles Citizens’ Grand Jury, the Presenters and Conveners on or before October 31, 2004.

Contact: Lynn Pentz www.911TruthLA.us (818) 784-3623



http://www.911truthla.us/
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 09:23 AM
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2. I like the idea but that's sort of what we do here, isn't it?
Edited on Wed May-25-05 09:24 AM by spooked911
How would you select the commission? What would be your criteria? Just that they have to believe LIHOP or MIHOP?

Do you want to have formal meetings in person?

Or can it be done elctronically?

Also, I worry very much without access to government documents, we simply would not be able to reach any conclusions except the one that most of us have-- the government is lying and some people in the government made 9/11 happen.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 12:21 PM
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3. Yes
If we want, we should make a forum called:
"The Citizen's 9/11 Commission Report"

"Also, I worry very much without access to government documents, we simply would not be able to reach any conclusions except the one that most of us have-- the government is lying and some people in the government made 9/11 happen."
There is a conclusion that we can all make. The first commission report is a lie. It has been whitewashed to protect the guilty.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 12:34 PM
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4. THE 9/11 CITIZENS' COMMISSION - NYC, Sept. 9, 2004
Edited on Wed May-25-05 12:35 PM by JackRiddler
Chaired by Cynthia McKinney.

Text summary, witnesses:
http://justicefor911.org/Appendix7_911OmissionsHearings_111904.php

Complete video record
http://911busters.com/911-Commission.html

Resulting citizens' complaint calling on the AG of NY to open a new criminal investigation (BIG DOCUMENT, see the evidentiary appendices especially.)
http://justicefor911.org

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