piobair writes:
> The buildings are the same in both clips.
I leave that to each viewer's eyes.
> The fire truck is different.
Yes AND, it is driving in the OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
They HID this mistake, by a deliberate MIRROR-IMAGING. This is evident when we see that Tony's Face Sore CHANGES CHEEKS.
For NEWLY EXCERPTED CLOSE-UPS of the mysterious bloody W-shaped wound,
click
Tony's Sore
at
http://911foreknowledge.com/funeral/index.htmThe firetruck at the REAL funeral drives FROM the side of the camera which we're FIRST shown has Tony's WOUNDED cheek (during Tony's salute)--TO the side of the camera which we're first shown has Tony's NON-wounded cheek.
OPPOSITELY, the firetruck at the FAKE funeral, the truck we actually see passing Tony, drives FROM the side of the camera with Tony's NON-wounded cheek, TO the side of the camera with Tony's WOUNDED cheek.
A single real funeral would not proceed past Tony in two different directions. Therefore a fake funeral was also filmed, a funeral featuring Tony's actual presence, unlike the real funeral. Q.E.D.
> The truck preceding the the casket is from the Firefighters company and sometimes the family rides in it. In the scene with the escort you can see this truck in the distance,headlights on.
The movie sure as heck DEPICTS that the truck WITHOUT the black banner, the truck actually shown passing Tony, is the SAME as the truck with the coffin! The sequence is as follows:
First we're shown the black-ribboned truck, WITH COFFIN, approaching from the camera's left, ABOUT TO PASS THE CAMERA. (We do not see Tony.)
Then THE NEXT THING we're shown is a close-up of Tony, in which his sore has jumped to his "left" cheek.
Then THE NEXT THING we're shown is the NON-black-ribboned truck, ENTERING THE SAME SHOT (no cut, still the close-up on Tony), and PASSING THE CAMERA (and Tony). But this truck is shot too low to actually show a coffin on top. I submit that this was a deliberate choice because there was no coffin on this truck BUT they wanted us to THINK there was.
I say that because THE NEXT THING we're then shown is the REAR of a truck WITH COFFIN, CONTINUING to pass the cameraman.
So, they SANDWICHED IN the shot of the NON-black-ribboned truck, between two shots of the truck WITH black ribbon AND COFFIN. They DEPICTED them as the SAME truck, CONTRARY to what YOU imply they would say happened.
> What proof do you have that he died in throes of agony?
Okay I admit heart attacks can begin relatively painlessly. But he was only 27 and had passed all his physicals.
In an intriguing side note, Rudy Giuliani scored political points by arranging for himself to give away Gorumba's sister at her wedding on September 15, 2001.
> As to a cop just happening by, show me a fire scene that doesn't have a few cops around and that's the one that's fake. They are always there for traffic and crowd control.
PLAINCLOTHES cops?
> Once again Ray, your complete lack of knowledge and utter ignorance of any thing related to the fire service allows you to delude yourself into these bizarre flights of fancy.
I sympathize with where you're coming from but you are the mistaken one. I'm sorry my findings upset you but I must call this as I see it. The overwhelming majority of S11 firemen ARE TRUE HEROES. But the evil geniuses behind the plot are COUNTING on that to make us REFUSE TO BE ABLE TO SEE that the fire dept. is precisely whom the perps INFILTRATED to make this movie. It is a Big Lie, successful BECAUSE they knew it would be BEYOND initial capacity to be believed possible: "FIREMEN" WERE IN ON THE S11 PLOT.
Don't count my argument as defeated just because you semi-successfully, semi-unsucessfully answer SOME of the points.
You are IGNORING the OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS the two trucks drove in.
You are IGNORING the BLURRY PAN-LEFT INSERTION OF TONY. Blurrily fast to disguse that there's a CUT involved in it, the cut enabling them to put Tony "there."
Will you ignore the creepy bloody face wound too, even though it's now being shown in close-up?
Ray Ubinger
http://911foreknowledge.com/funeral