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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 12:26 PM
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why wasn't White House anti-aircraft battery or Blackhawk used for Fl 77?
Edited on Sun Dec-04-05 12:38 PM by philb
As an "anti-aircraft missile battery on the roof of a nearby building" was raised to the fire position, a "Black Hawk helicopter" was scrambled to take a look, but saw nothing except some clouds, one of which turned out to be the suspected aggressor.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1472905,00.html
anti-aircraft missile battery on the roof of WhiteHouse not used against flight 77
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/main/essaytheytriedtowarnus.html
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8:55 a plane assumed to be Fl 77 seen on FAA radar heading east over West Virginia: Senator Levin during testimony of Gen. Ralph Eberhart, commander of NORAD, before the Senate Armed Services Committee on October 25

9:05 West Virginia FAA ATC notices a plane headed towards D.C. without a transponder on
9:21 FAA contacts NORAD and says a plane is still heading towards D.C. (confirmed, page 21 of 9/11 Comm. Report)
9:27 V.P. Cheney in the White House operation center is told that a plane is 50 miles out heading towards the capital.
Norman Mineta, Sec. of Transportation, testimony before 9/11 Comm.: on a meeting he was at with V.P. Cheney at the White House PEOC that he arrived at about 9:20:
“During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the vice president, “The plane is 50 miles out”; “The plane is 30 miles out” ; And when it got down to “the plane is 10 miles out” the young man said to the vice president, “Do the orders still stand?” And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said “Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?”


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Since Cheney was monitoring Flight 93 as it approached the Pentagon
and he had anti-aircraft batteries, Blackhawk helicopters, jets from Andrews AFB, and jets from other NORAD bases available,
why didn't he order the plane attacking the Pentagon shot down???
(note he knew about the terrorist attacks on WTC already)


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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 12:51 PM
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1. How does one find previous DU thread on the National Guard anti-aircraft
missile battery at the White House, that I earlier posted?

I don't know how to search for such.
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 05:21 PM
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2. There are stinger missiles at the WH..
very short range on the order of 1 to 5 miles defending on target aspect. You have to a visual contact and the IR seeker has to lock on before launch it is only useful for point defense. Flt 77 simply did not come close enough to the WH to be shot down.


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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 06:15 AM
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4. I think you still have to be a donating member to search.
At least that's how it used to be: http://www.democraticunderground.com/duforum/DCForumID47/73.html
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I did a quick search, but couldn't find it.

You might want to bookmark threads with your browser for future reference.

Sometimes you can find threads with Google. After entering your search terms, add a space and then add site:www.democraticunderground.com
-Make7
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 05:23 PM
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3. Did you read the article you posted?
all of these defenses are post-9/11! How do you know they were there on 9/11?
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 09:54 PM
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5. I posted previously documentation that there was a battery of surface to
air missiles that protects the capital complex.
Thats why I asked about how to find my previous post on this.
I did another google search and didn't find it this time. But I found it and posted it before.

Who mans the stingers? What service?





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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 10:47 PM
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6. because it wasn't part of the plan
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 10:55 PM
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7. Agreed. n/t
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