MIHOP II Watch: BIZARRE story of the week...

Two men drive from Houston, stop in Chicago, then head to a NUCLEAR POWER STATION in Beaver, PA. They say they're trying to pick up some boxes of tools. A security guard finds a duffel bag with over $500,000 in small bills. The two men then leave. :wtf:

The security guard calls the state police who stop the truck a mile down the road. After the men say they have no idea where the money came from. THEY'RE ALLOWED TO LEAVE, but TV reporters are detained.

Here's a link to the story, but the video is a must watch:

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/8821721/detail.html

LBN Link:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2236825&mesg_id=2236825

Redstone

material that traces back to a nuclear power plant.

Seems more likely than the current "drug deal interrupted" story the state bull hinted at.

Redstone

_ _ _ _

“Not long after moving to Washington she had interviewed an expert on nuclear security who had explained how easy it would be to score plutonium. The security for nuclear facilities, he said, was always contracted out. The contractors in turn hired locally and supplied their hires with minimum rounds of ammunition. Meaning, he had said, ‘You got multimillion dollar state-of-the-art security systems being operated by downsized sheriff’s deputies with maybe enough ammo to take down a coyote.’”

-- Joan Didion, THE LAST THING HE WANTED
_ _ _ _

...chapter for a mystery/suspense novel.

Maybe the men were just dropping by to pay their electric bill and they wanted to pay a few centuries in advance.

That's a good one, OMG!! :rofl:

Bizarre and :wtf:

the guys transporting the money are allowed to go free? :wtf:

The locks didn't work on the truck? :wtf:

:shrug:

No mention of who the truck belongs to? No mention of where in Chicago, or from whom ("a broker") they picked the duffel up? No mention of where in Houston it was to be delivered? Who was the contractor they were picking up "tools" for?

:wtf::wtf::wtf::sarcasm: we need a smiley for "yeah, right" :sarcasm::wtf::wtf::wtf:

"A police dog picked up the scent of drugs in the sleeper cab of the truck where the bag was found"

last i heard- there's nothing illegal about the "scent of drugs"- you can bet that the cab was searched pretty thouroughly, and if any actual drugs had been found- nobody would have walked.

"canine dogs found drug residue on the money"

(play the video at the link)

:crazy:

Something like 10% of all cash in Fla will test+.

SSSoooo?

The big question--did these dudes ask if they could keep the money? If I found $500K, I'd be asking when I could legally own it.

it's meaningless- had there been actual drugs found, the guys would not have walked.

They say Atta was stopped driving a truck a few months before 9/11. Eerily similar circumstances, eh?

Considered not terrorists? Near a Nuclear Power station!?!

Double :wtf:

three or four paragraphs is all I'm finding. The local Scaife paper gives it this small writeup:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/trib/pmupdate/s_445309.html

Go back to your homes and work places. I repeat, nothing suspicious here.

:think:

"No job too dirty - Give us a call!"

:tinfoilhat: :shrug:

Or the "let's not get Bush driven from office by an angry mob" strategy?

My mind went the other route. Per haps they were casing the joint. Maybe they intended to bribe security gaurds or workers for information on where the plant was vulnerable to an attack or infiltration. The 500K may have been pay off for a hit on the plant.

....

The truckers worked for a company hired by San Francisco-based Bechtel Corp., which is performing construction work and replacing equipment at the plant, said Richard Wilkins, spokesman for plant owner First Energy Nuclear Operating Co.

The name of the company was not released, but police said the truckers had come from Chicago and were making a scheduled stop to pick up and transport containers of tools to Youngstown, Ohio.

....

In the search, the officers found a green, blue and black duffel bag with a padlock in the sleeper berth of the cab, Trooper Bayer said. The truckers didn't have a key for the lock, so guards cut it off and spotted cash inside, he said.

The truckers said the money wasn't theirs and they didn't know how it got there, Trooper Bayer said. In court papers filed to obtain a search warrant, state police said one of the truckers told security officers that "it was their money and he was going to buy a truck with it."

But when the security workers called the truckers' boss in Houston, he also said he knew nothing about the money. The security officers called police, but the truckers backed out of the plant and drove off.

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http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06110/683609-57.stm

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Police broadcast a description of the truck and Sgt. Davis pulled it over after spotting it on Route 168 south, near the Shippingport Bridge. He said the truckers were polite, but the passenger had no identification and said it had been stolen from the truck the night before.

"Your ID is stolen but not that bag of cash? Red flags were popping up all over," Sgt. Davis said.

....

:eyes:

Several of the Israeli "art" students and "moving" company
people didn't have IDs either...
WTF is going on???
BHN

Maybe a test of the honesty of the guards.

Then, the Israeli Movers came to mind. Gawd only knows what they might be up to.

Fact remains, nobody was even detained pending an ID check. Except the reporters. Very spooky.

someone drilled a small hole in one of the pressure vents and almost caused a meltdown, if
I remember correctly.

FBI probes nuclear reactor hole
A Florida energy company has called in the FBI and offered a $100,000 reward to try and find out who drilled a hole in one of its nuclear power stations.
It had been drilled - inadvertently or deliberately - into a cooling system pipe for one of its nuclear reactors.
Florida Power has now repaired the damage and plans to restart the unit.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4890204.stm

I saw it first in LBN this afternoon.
It just gets more and more strange.
MIHOP?
Isn't that JUST what the KKKabal needs
to justify nuking Iran, about NOW?
WE are so screwed.
I just keep thinking about the Philip Giraldi
story in the AmCon from August and
the section where he reported that Cheney's
plan to retaliate against Iran, in the event
of another attack on America, REGARDLESS of
whether any link was made to Iran, had military
personnel mortified at the thought that
they were being asked to plan a pre-emptive
nuclear strike on another country without proof
of justification...
God help us all,
BHN

:scared:

CHENEY
CHENEY
CHENEY!
Now go back and read the Philip Giraldi story!!!
http://www.amconmag.com/2005_08_01/article3.html

"In Washington it is hardly a secret that the same people in and around the administration who brought you Iraq are preparing to do the same for Iran. The Pentagon, acting under instructions from Vice President Dick Cheney’s office, has tasked the United States Strategic Command (STRATCOM) with drawing up a contingency plan to be employed in response to another 9/11-type terrorist attack on the United States. The plan includes a large-scale air assault on Iran employing both conventional and tactical nuclear weapons. Within Iran there are more than 450 major strategic targets, including numerous suspected nuclear-weapons-program development sites. Many of the targets are hardened or are deep underground and could not be taken out by conventional weapons, hence the nuclear option. As in the case of Iraq, the response is not conditional on Iran actually being involved in the act of terrorism directed against the United States. Several senior Air Force officers involved in the planning are reportedly appalled at the implications of what they are doing—that Iran is being set up for an unprovoked nuclear attack—but no one is prepared to damage his career by posing any objections."

Now, factor in the tests scheduled for the Shoshone land in June....
the shake ups in the WH as of today...
Good lord, we are in BIG trouble people.

BHN

"As in the case of Iraq, the response is not conditional on Iran actually being involved in the act of terrorism directed against the United States. Several senior Air Force officers involved in the planning are reportedly appalled at the implications of what they are doing—that Iran is being set up for an unprovoked nuclear attack"

MIHOP
MIHOP
MIHOP

CHENEY.
This story has CHENEY WRITTEN ALL OVER IT.

BHN

this could explain a lot.

Sure sounds like a possibility.

There are more credible sources for info on Bechtel.

WTF?
How stupid do they think we are?
All that driving plus a big wad of cash
to look for TOOLS????
I repeat- GOD HELP US ALL.
They are planning another MIHOP.
That is what I REALLY am convinced of.
This is all just too nuts.
someone PLEASE offer me
an alternative explanation.
BHN

a tractor-trailer picking up two large containers of tools for a contractor- depending on what type of contractor, what type of tools, and what size containers- it's completely feasible.
specialized tools/machinery for lots of heavy construction trades can be pretty valuable.

You're right-
Nothing to see here folks, move along...
LOL!!!
BHN

the linked article says NOTHING about bechtel corporation- why do you?

No one claims $500,000 stash in truck

Thursday, April 20, 2006
By Cindi Lash, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

The truckers worked for a company hired by San Francisco-based Bechtel Corp., which is performing construction work and replacing equipment at the plant, said Richard Wilkins, spokesman for plant owner First Energy Nuclear Operating Co.

Nearly everything associated with nuclear power in this country is either owned by or connected to Bechtel. They do build the damn things, after all.

The truckers worked for a company hired by San Francisco-based Bechtel Corp.

they are employed by a sub-contractor, NOT Bechtel.

for tools, then they 'didn't know the money was there'. And they had no ID?? If a legitimate sale of tools was going on, there would be IDs, invoices etc.

I haven't checked out the link yet, so I don't know, were they finally detained?

but their boss then denies any knowledge of the money.

Does the truck have ruby-encrusted, solid-gold wheels?

But i agree with you. Driving through a few states to pick up "tools" is feasible. Also they said it wasa flatbed truck, so i'm thinking they meant MACHINES, as well as tools.... strapped down into cargo containers. I wonder if anyone checked the plant to see if anything was getting picked up? Were the guards on duty the ones that were supposed to be there? Was there anyone INSIDE the facility that shouldn't have been there at that time? Did they make a grounds check? Maybe this was a huge DISTRACTION technique?

makes you think...

were they trying to buy nuclear material from a plant insider?

PS. - A BIG thanks to the security guard who was paying attention!

remember Silkwood? $500,000 is no small potatos. Sounds like someone got paid off, but for what? One guy didn't have ID and they let them go? Something doesn't pass the smell test. It makes you kind of wonder if someone is buying the "hot" stuff, like plutonium. I'm kicking and saving, in case, just in case.

Keeping an eye on a story that has not made a blip
on the network news might be hard to do.
Can some one do a screen save on the link?
I will bet you it is a matter of time before it
is disappeared.
After all, they RELEASED the drivers and
DETAINED the reporters.
Now what conclusion could that bring us to?
BHN

I've done presentations on the "Ephemerial Internet"...I always grab things that might be volatile enough to possbly disappear.

A backup. Just in case.

That cash was a pay-off for someone in the nuclear plant...take the cash, leave blueprints and/or plutonium in exchange. This totally sucks!

After all,
"Another Pearl Harbor" is JUST what they need
to get it on in Iran...
The sheeple will line up in bleeting support if another
American city is attacked.
Sounds like a MIHOP in progress to me...
And, important to note-
I have NEVER been a MIHOP true believer before
now.
LIHOP? FOR SURE.
MIHOP?
Not so sure.
Until now.
BHN

National security MY ASS.
God damn these people to hell!
BHN

I think you and I have debated LIHOP vs MIHOP in the past and you just didn't want to believe PNAC was evil enough for MIHOP...I think you've just had a major epiphany and have clearly crossed over into the MIHOP camp. In fact, I sense you've just found a new "cause" and will closely watch this story for further developments. I welcome any research you might want to share. Many of us pay REAL CLOSE ATTENTION to this kind of stuff.

why not plutonium too?

I'm bookmarking it.

There is definitely something rotten here....

This has MIHOP written all over it.

That Cheney, Poppy Bush and the rest of the
stinking Carlucci clan are the heads.
Bush is the puppet doing the masters bidding.
Make no mistake.
BHN

$504,230 seized from 2 Houstonians in Penn.
No one claims $500,000 stash in truck... yet.

What a bizzarre and twisted story this is. Would you just drop by a nuclear power plant on your way to delivering half a million bucks in cash? It looks like the guys tried to disappear from the scene all shadowy and CIA-like until they were pulled over a mile later, although this later version of the story above indicates that the guys called "their boss" first.

(Disappearing from the scene all shadowy and CIA-like seems to be on the rise. Last week the pilot of a plane owned by one of Tom DeLay's buddies disappeared without a trace after the aircraft was intercepted in Mexico with five and a half tons of cocaine on board. The drugs and the copilot were nabbed, but the pilot, an American, mysteriously disappeared.)

Exploitation of the gap in forfeiture laws is one of the ways the cops are profiting from the war on drugs.

Part of the scam is the fact that dogs can detect the tiny traces of drugs that are left on bills handed by drug dealers sometime in the past, but the dog doesn't know by whom or when. Any large sum of cash is bound to have some bills in it which have passed through a drug dealer's or users's literally dirty fingers. That makes virtually any large sum of cash confiscatable by the police, so long as they turn it over to the DEA, which in turn gives them a cut of the profits--and it's all profit. (And all of this assumes that the K-9 cop is uh, correctly interpreting the dog's signals, if you know what I mean.)

Half a million dollars in circulated small bills is going to smell like drugs whether it comes from Pablo Escobar or Jerry Falwell--or someone honest. And lo and behold, in this case, the dog detected the scent of drugs in the cab of the truck, but no drugs were found in a search. The drugs must have been delivered already, right? Or, it might have been the scent of the money itself. One thing is for sure, the dog ain't gonna tell which way it is.

In this case, my first thought was that the cops are just as curious about what's going on as we are. So they used the dog heist angle to confiscate the cash, in order to see who (or which agency) shows up to collect it.

But on the other hand, as I understand it confiscating the "drug money" also automatically makes this a federal case, which in this day and age means we'll never hear another official thing about the incident.

The first article above suggests that Pennsylvania can claim the money if nobody else does, but that seems to run contrary to the law which permits confiscating the money in the first place.

Anyway, this is a story worth watching disappear down the memory hole as fast as it can go.

Thank God for the Department of Homeland Security!

:grr:
:sarcasm:

No doubt.

shittttttttt..we are so screwed..an no media touches it makes us even more screwed@@@


wtf..i hate the media as much as this admin!

fly:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

glitch in the matrix.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Two men from Houston, Texas, transporting more than $504,000 in cash were stopped at a security entrance to the Beaver Valley Nuclear Power Station in Shippingport Tuesday evening and briefly held but were not charged with any crime, state police said.

State police and federal officials said Wednesday they don't think the incident, though unusual, was a part of any terrorism or threat against the nuclear plant or employees there.

Shippingport police Sgt. Robert Davis said state police and federal agencies will continue to follow up leads in Chicago and Houston to determine who owns the money, which state police said could be tied to drug proceeds.

The men, Donald R. Kingsby and William Lewis, were released Tuesday evening, though state police kept the money because they suspected there could be drug residue on it. The men denied the money belonged to them.

....

http://www.timesonline.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16506638&BRD=2305&PAG=461&dept_id=478569&rfi=6

But since earlier reports stated that as at least one of them had no ID ("honest officer, it was stolen last night") who knows if these are real names.

That IS strange.

Perhaps we should send this to Keith Olberman or someone to see about getting it into the MSM.

from the earlier link:
"Your ID is stolen but not that bag of cash? Red flags were popping up all over," Sgt. Davis said.

....

Schneider and state police did not release the name of the trucking company or say to which contractor the equipment belonged.

....

Big deal...I walk through airports and routinly enter Nuke plants with half a million in cash.

No laws says you can't have lots of cash on you.

Just a couple ol good old boys fetching a tool baox after a little Texas Hold Em...

:sarcasm:

according to Google. One of the latest, from the Houston Chronicle states the men knew nothing about the cash, called their boss and asked him what to do. He said to leave the plant, so they did. Ok.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/3806302.html

Cheney/Rove hire some 'plumbers' to score some uranium. They build a dirty bomb and plant it in Toleda, or Wichita, or Pittsburgh. They don't have to detonate it (though they probably will). When the bomb is 'discovered', the media goes fucking ape-shit, pointing fingers to Iran. Mushroom cloud analogies swamp the airwaves for three weeks. Congress authorizes the President** to use any and all resources at his disposal to protect the country. Tomohawks and Cruise missiles fly 72 hours later.

Because that $500,000 more than likely was the down payment on the job these guys were supposed to complete ("half a million now, half a million upon delivery of the uranium"). Now that they are caught and the money is in the hand of the police, and their cover is blown, who ever they work for has got to be PISSED OFF.

Keep an eye for these guys showing up in the obituary in the next few weeks....

"Hey, maybe we can claim that the truckers were running drugs without the bosses knowledge..."

"Yeah, but that means that Bill and Don will have to take a fall..."

"Well, have them disappear and it's even better..."

that Halliburton's gonna build here, "just in case" something big "happens".

At least that's what the commercials on my TV said.:smoke:

There is not really any 9/11 discussion in this thread and it is potentially a very important story.

Should a thread be shunted off to the 9/11 forum every time people discuss the potential implications of a news story in General Discussion? Does that make it conspiracy theory?

:(

I was just responding to this in GD and ZAP! It belongs there IMO. :(

Excellent thread Junkdrawer.

you are guaranteeing yourself a trip down to the 9/11 dungeon.

will change.

That's what I'm thinking that money was, the down payment for a "job" of the illegal kind.

Their story makes ZERO sense that they were "looking" for their pickup shipment of "tools". Why in the hell would they NOT know where their shipment was?

Didn't they have a FUCKING address on their Purchase Order?

Bullshit - these guys are doing illegal shit, straight up.

or permission. Happens a lot, I'm sure. OP didn't mention this was a tractor rig, and the "boxes of tools" would fill the semi. Also didn't mention the money was confiscated.

This is from the LBN section. A possible Pine Gap connection?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2236825&mesg_id=2237712

And clandestine black ops don't get financed by means of drug money.

That's right. Just ask Sibel Edmonds.

I was piggybacking. I'm with ya.

LOL

:hi:

This is ridiculous for DU. This belongs in GD and on the front page. Who else is going to follow the criminals?
:dem:

it's the moderators way of telling us they think the article is MIHOP too! :-)

It just is this fear that "they" will think we are whacked.
On the internets all topics are fair game in my mind.
I suppose there is this fear that dubco will close up this shop if we are too expressive.
:argh:

I don't get it.

1) Why would you deliver drugs or drug money to a NUCLEAR POWER PLANT? Why not pass the money off in the woods, someone's apartment? On the side of a highway? At a McDonalds? In a parking garage. Why in a highly secured facility?

2) Why detain journalists inquiring into the incident while you let the carriers of the suspected drug money go. Because THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS IN THE BAG???? So, if I walk into a nuclear facility with half a million dollars worth of drug money, all I need to tell the cops is I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS IN THE BAG? That's good enough? What if it were the drugs themselves? Does "I-Didn't-Know-What-Was-In-My-Vehicle" work for that as well?

The drug portion of this story is bs. All most all small bills have that smell.
At least they used their duct tape and plastic.
If this wasn't a foiled plot, then it was a diversion from the real plot, which probably went off without a hitch.

.

I've been working them all, though the news has dried up.
:dem:

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/consumerawareness/a/missingpluto.htm

how soon till a couple of cities in the usa are hit?

Iran developes their own? I mean, it's obviously available on the black market if it can go "missing" from a high security facility, right?

Achieve enough enriched uranium to make a nuke. also,bet friends in pakistan could lend them a nuke or two if iranians really wanted to nuke us. my best guess is cheney and his band of killers will nuke us soon, that followed by the dreaded,"Martial Law" suspension of the Nov. elections and a dick-tator forever.

how you doing?

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