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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 04:48 PM
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If People On the 9/11 Planes Didn't Use Cell Phones And Used....
the phones on the back of the seat in the airplanes - there should be credit card records of these calls. Has anybody checked this out?

Sorry for this random post - but I've been listening to Randi and this post was motivated from one of her discussions with a caller.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 04:57 PM
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another, of numerous-unanswered questions about 9-11
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 04:57 PM
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1. another, of numerous-unanswered questions about 9-11
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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 04:59 PM
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2. While I haven't seen United 93
I saw the A&E version, and thought the same thing. In the A&E one, it seemed to just show the people picking up the phones & using them, without even using credit cards.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 05:03 PM
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3. I just saw the A&E last night, and they do use their credit cards.
It occasionally seems like they aren't, because there are a few times passengers lay the phone down on the seat, but in those cases the call is still active.
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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 05:08 PM
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4. I watched it kind of late one night
I may have missed them using the CC's.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 03:06 PM
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10. You can't make a connection
without giving someone credit info first.

The only other option would be to get the Skyphone Operator and tell the operator what's going on. You would not be able to just pick up the phone and call your wife directly like the wives of the 'let roll team' claim.

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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 05:39 PM
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5. If there were a criminal investigation, the records would be subpoenaed
The glaring lack of an investigation causes a lot of questions, doesn't it.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 05:50 PM
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6. There are entities that have all the answers, but they have been
ducct taped or taped themselves.

1. Airline executives
2. Telephone companies
3. Traffic controllers
4. Natl Trans Board
5. Companies that stored or destroyed a/c or missle evidence
6. Govertment employees in many position
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Jazz2006 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 06:22 PM
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7. If they did use credit cards, sure there would be records.
I don't know if anyone has asked the family members of the deceased to cough up records, but I wouldn't be surprised if nobody has. I mean, neither the innocent passengers or the people they called are under investigation for anything, after all, and the purpose in asking for the records would appear to be only to satisfy conspiracy theorists that the family members (and other recipients) are telling the truth about the phone calls they reported.

I suppose it would be less offensive to ask the credit card companies to cough up records, but I don't know if anyone in a position of authority has done that either. Even if they have, though, it seems that the only purpose in publicly disseminating that information would be to satisfy the conspiracy theorists that the family members (and other recipients) are telling the truth about the phone calls they reported receiving.

So, I can see why even if that kind of information has been gathered that it would not be publicly disseminated.

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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 06:23 PM
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8. We're told this is the reason the world had to change
is it really so much to ask that it be investigated?

we went to war based on it.

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Jazz2006 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 06:47 PM
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9. Actually,
Nobody went to war over the issue of whether the telephone calls were made on cell phones or Airfones.

And I am certainly not saying that the details shouldn't be investigated. I suspect they have been. But I can see why that particular aspect of the investigation (i.e. credit card records and cell phone records for that matter) would not be publicly disseminated as the only purpose in doing so is to satisfy the conspiracy theorists that the families and other phone call recipients are not bald faced liars.

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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:33 PM
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11. Wow what an obtuse post.
Edited on Sat May-06-06 06:34 PM by Sterling
We did go to war over the Myth of 9-11, and it is being used as justification for the "world changing".

More and more people world wide are having a hard time accepting this justification and it would be nice to clarify these kind of details if they are indeed benign and support the official story.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:58 PM
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12. And, the reason to investigate the calls
would not be to prove that the families are not "bald faced liars", but to prove that, who we were told made those calls, did. The recipients of the calls have nothing to do with it.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 08:08 PM
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13. Yes, no one thinks the families are lying
Somewhere online is an essay about voice technology, making imitations of peoples voices if they have a sample. I'm sure this can be done and it would explain some of the strange behavior on behalf of the passengers. Hmmm, "bald face liars" I can guess where that came from, fortunately I'm using "ignore" for that poster.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 08:22 PM
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14. Good idea.
If only that button worked for the entire Homeland Security/ Intimidating/ Spying/ Bullying / Terra-fying / 24-7 Propaganda maching which is unbelievable, right down to regular announcements on the airport intercom and redneck NSA creeps rooting through everybody's underwear.

:crazy:
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 08:36 PM
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15. Stick with refuting the facts of 9/11.
You sound silly thinking 9/11 wasn't used to get us involved in the ME. It'll all come clear when we take back Congress.
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