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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 04:55 AM
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Email: Ex-* Official Busts 9/11 & Ray McGovern
I received this email. I guess what I'm asking for is your thoughts, comments, etc. I am no 9/11 expert. I've read "The New Pearl Harbor", and done a little research on the net. I have very serious doubts about the "official" story, as it just doesn't add up. I'm quite open to both LIHOP and MIHOP.

So, what are your thoughts?



Ray McGovern again...
former CIA official Ray McGovern has
confirmed this directly in private, and indirectly in public by way of
his ringing endorsement of David Ray Griffin's work on 9/11.


Kevin Barrett: Ex-Bush Official Busts 9/11 Perps at U.W. Historical Society


Excellent account given by Kevin Barrett of the speech that Morgan Reynolds, former Bush aide and Professor Emeritus at Texas A&M, gave in Wisconsin regarding 9/11.

Reynolds states that getting to the truth of 9/11 will make it possible for the nation to avoid further wars. Reynolds claims the proof is indisputable that 9/11 is an inside job.
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Address:http://milwaukee.indymedia.org/en/2006/05/205461.shtml


"Come Out of the White House with Your Hands Up!"

Ex-Bush Official Busts 9/11 Perps at U.W. Historical Society
Madison, WI

Saturday, May 6, 2006
Kevin Barrett, 07.05.2006 13:06

An enthusiastic standing-room-only crowd overfilled the 300-seat
Wisconsin Historical Society auditorium Saturday to hear ex-Bush
Administration insider Morgan Reynolds prosecute top administration and
military officials for the 9/11 inside job.

Reynolds to Cheney: "You're BUSTED!"

Reynolds indicted Richard Cheney, George W. Bush, former Joint
Chiefs Chairman Richard Meyers, confessed WTC demolisher and
insurance-fraudster Larry Silverstein, and others for mass murder,
conspiracy, and other charges including high treason.

The enthusiastic response from the overflow crowd was a de facto
vote for conviction on all counts.

The former Director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National
Center for Policy Analysis, showed that the defendants conspired to
create a false cover story of suicide hijackings in order to "blow the
World Trade Center to kingdom come" with explosives—a shock-and-awe
psy-op designed to coerce the American people into supporting a
pre-planned "long war" in the Middle East, massive increases in military
spending, and the rollback of Constitutional civil liberties.

Reynolds stated that everyone in the worldwide intelligence
community knew that 9/11 was an inside job as soon as it happened, with
the obvious stand-down of US air defenses, controlled demolition of the
World Trade Center, and non-protection of the President in Florida being
the biggest tip-offs. The head of the Russian equivalent of the Joint
Chiefs of Staff, the former head of the German intelligence service
Andreas Von Bulow, former National Security Agency official Wayne
Madsen, and former MI-6 agent David Schayler have all openly called 9/11
an inside job, while former CIA official Ray McGovern has
confirmed this directly in private, and indirectly in public by way of
his ringing endorsement of David Ray Griffin's work on 9/11.
Reynolds, who served as George W. Bush's Labor Department Chief
Economist in 2001-2002, believes that a 9/11 truth victory is looming on
the near-term horizon.

He predicted that one or more of the 9/11 insiders will soon "give
it up" and come forward with what they know, saying "Remember, you heard
it here first." He said that most of those complicit in the attacks did
not realize how over-the-top the plot was, due to the need-to-know
compartmentalization of such covert operations, and that some
semi-complicit individuals will probably be coming forward. Reynolds
said that most of his email acquaintances are now worried that the 9/11
truth movement is going to win, triggering the greatest Constitutional
crisis in U.S. history. For Reynolds, this is less a cause for worry
than for rejoicing:
"We need a Constitutional crisis!"

Reynolds argued that 9/11 truth is a matter of extreme urgency, since
the perpetrators seem to be preparing another 9/11-style terror hoax as
a pretext for attacking Iran with nuclear weapons. He said that exposing
the 9/11 fraud is the best way to stop Cheney's plan to stage an
unprovoked nuclear attack on Iran, and the military draft and
Pinochet-style prison camps and death squads for dissenters that might
accompany it.

Reynolds urged the audience to help educate the American public
about the 9/11 inside job. Personal contact with family and friends, the
internet, alternative media, and public events like this are all good
educational strategies, he said, adding that a demonstration of 100,000
9/11 truth supporters at Ground Zero next year would be hard for the
media to ignore.

Politicians and the media will help expose the 9/11 inside job, he
said, only after the growing grassroots movement reaches critical mass.
The organizers of Reynolds' talk urged audience members to come to the
upcoming international 9/11 truth conference in Chicago, 9/11: Revealing
the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future, June 2nd-4th, 2006:
http://911revealingthetruth.org
* * *
Introduction to Dr. Reynolds Presentation
(delivered in much abbreviated form due to time constraints)
by Dr. Kevin Barrett
Coordinator, Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth:
http://mujca.com
Member, Scholars for 9/11 Truth:
http://st911.org
Member, Scientific Professionals

Investigating 9/11 (SPINE):

http://911physics.net

Friends, we are gathered here today not just to speak truth to power,
but to start fighting back. The information you are hearing today is
political dynamite. It is the stuff of which revolutions are made.
Evil rulers use divide-and-conquer strategies against their subjects. In
Iraq, the occupiers blow up mosques and markets, and murder thousands of
bystanders, in a lame attempt to provoke a Sunni-Shia civil war. But
they're not fooling anybody. The Iraqis all know who's really doing
these bombings, just as 90% of the Arab and Muslim world knows that 9/11
was an inside job. Here in Ersatz America, our criminal rulers are
trying to divide us by whipping up emotional hysteria: abortion,
immigration, gay marriage, liberal versus conservative, religious versus
secular, Christian and Jewish versus Muslim—anything to distract us
and keep us from seeing what they're doing to all of us.

9/11 truth unites ALL of us – left and right, gay and straight,
religious, spiritual and secular, Muslim, Christian and Jewish, military
and civilian – in revolutionary outrage against this evil regime, and
in determination to overthrow it by any means necessary.

We hope the 9/11 truth revolution will be a nonviolent revolution. We
are starting with education, symbolism, and nonviolent action. Please
honor the request of Veterans for 9/11 Truth (

http://v911t.org) to fly the American flag upside down as a symbol of
Constitutional distress. And please come to Chicago for the
international 9/11 truth strategy conference June 2nd – 4th, sponsored
by 911truth.org and the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth.
Posters are available at the table outside. We are meeting in Chicago to
figure out how to win on 9/11 truth. And we are going to win. See:

http://911revealingthetruth.org

And when we win, the brave man we have invited here today will get a big
chunk of the credit.

Dr. Morgan Reynolds is Professor Emeritus at Texas A & M University. He
served as Chief Economist in the Department of Labor under George W.
Bush during the Cheney regime's first illegitimate term. He is the
former director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center
for Policy Analysis, and appeared on innumerable political discussion
shows in the mainstream media – back when we used to have a mainstream
media rather than a Ministry of Propaganda. I'm sorry, I shouldn't say
that – it's the Ministry of Love. Wait a minute, that's the one that
runs Abu Ghraib and the sex torture gulag. Or is that der Ministry of
Unheimlich Insecurity? I'm sorry, I grew up back when we had something
vaguely resembling a democracy –I can't keep all this stuff straight.
In any case, Dr. Reynolds has a stellar resume, and the best part of it
is that he is a Wisconsin Badger with three degrees from this great
university – and he is living up to its motto, The Truth Will Set You
Free! Ladies and gentlemen, Dr. Morgan Reynolds.
* * *
(For Morgan Reynolds' work, see his website
http://nomoregames.net)
e-mail:: kevin@mujca.com
Homepage:: http://mujca.com


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quickesst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 07:42 AM
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1. One point....
I'm a construction worker with a hs education, and my only real resources are newspapers, and a fundamental skill in searching the internet. With what I have gleaned over the course of several years has led me to believe this was MIHOP. On the other hand we have people such as Reynolds, Griffin, and a myriad of scientists, physicists, and journalists to name a few. My point being, if I can logically come to the same conclusion as these learned, and undoubtedly much more informed people, then I feel justified in my view of the situation. The arguments against government involvement have been mediocre at best. Sometimes 2+2 actually does equal 4. It really is that simple. Thanks.
quickesst
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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 05:39 PM
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2. Thanks.
I appreciate your response. I know I'm a newbie in this forum, and you folks don't know where I'm coming from, or if I have some bizarro intents, so I appreciate your input. I kind of feel the same way. There are just so many knowledgeable people with such damning evidence. It's pretty hard to ignore and/or discount.
Thanks again,
livvy (I do most of my posting in Election Reform)
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simonm Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 06:28 PM
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3. Welcome
Welcome to DU quickesst and thanks for taking the red pill.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 08:22 PM
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4. "I have very serious doubts about the 'official' story...."
"I have very serious doubts about the "official" story, as it just doesn't add up. I'm quite open to both LIHOP and MIHOP. "

What doubts of yours would lead you to consider MIHOP? Or LIHOP, although that's basically the same thing.

thx.
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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 05:04 AM
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5. To start with....
I have zero faith in this administration to tell the truth about anything. They have lied, stolen, and cheated every step of the way. Their lack of compassion, incompetence (whether real or feigned), thirst for power, and greed is disgusting. 9/11 fits the profile I have in my mind for the extent they are willing to go to in order to meet their goals. My concern is they will orchestrate another event.
I agree with you that MIHOP and LIHOP are basically the same thing. I don't see how a government can let something occur without being complicit in the event.
My original purpose in the post was to get a feel from the posters in this forum, as to if you thought that there was a possibility that more whistle blowers might be on the horizon. I don't know how many people it will take saying the same thing, to get the attention focused on what really happened on 9/11, but the testimony of more "insiders" would certainly help.

Thanks for responding.
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quickesst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 06:30 AM
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6. My take...
on this boils down to accountability. Whether it be LIHOP, MIHOP, or as some believe, total incompetence, the investigation, faux commission, etc. were shams and a direct insult to the American people. You don't give medals, raises, or promotions for failing unless you are indeed part of the Bizzarro world GW lives in. Some individuals fervent efforts to convince people that it happened like the whitewash commission said it did are suspect as to their motives at the least. The high crimes and misdemeanors perpetrated by this mis-administration after 9/11 are secondary crimes. Convict them of all of those crimes, and true justice will still not be served unless they are held to account for this treasonous action above all else.
And thanks for the welcome. I suppose I became aware about four years ago, maybe sooner. That's when I first realized that our country was in the hands of those who would destroy its foundation of democracy, and I find anyone who tries, with fervent vigor, to paint a rosy picture of this groups actions all too suspect. Argue some points worth arguing if you truly believe the official story, but damn, every little, tiny comment on here is jumped on, with rather weak plausibility I might add. You know, like it's their job or something.B-) Thanks.
quickesst
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Jeroen Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 04:46 PM
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7. Fit together
Hi,

Maybe you have seen the clip below already, but if you don't... it’s extremely funny.
But also worrisome and cruel considering the fact that the convention was held in NYC just after 9/11

http://www.bushwatch.com/gopconstrm.mov

Those speeches fit together, like 9/11, Saddam, WMD, Afghanistan, Irak, NSA, Hayden and the next attack will fit together.
Hopefully the truth will come out soon, otherwise changes are the world will see horror like never before.

If just one of the arguments/cases by the 9/11 truth movement turns out to be true, just one...



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