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boolean Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 05:00 PM
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Quick, tell me what happened on September 11, 2001
Edited on Thu Jul-13-06 05:03 PM by boolean
I've had this in the back of my mind ever since that day and never really thought much about it until recently for some reason. I think the countless links to spooked911's "experiment" thread is what has prompted me to register for this site and let you all chew on this. (Been lurking here for years, though...)

Before I go on, let me state that I'm no conspiracy theorist. I think you guys are wingnuts for the most part. However, I'm not closed minded, either. If this has been brought up before, sorry. (I looked but I can't find it...)

I want everybody to stop, close your eyes, and think back to the afternoon of September 11, 2001. Were you watching TV? If so, what channel? Was it a news channel? One of the cable networks? What were the top stories that day?

Because something else happened that day, and CNN reported it. It was an attack that happened in Afghanistan that resembled the pictures of the anti-aircraft guns of the Gulf War. It was one of those fire fights in night vision that I'm sure we are all familiar with. I distinctly remember seeing this. It was sometime in the afternoon, Eastern time. Probably between 3 and 6.

If you want to be a conspiracy theorist, give me something from that. What a coincidence that on the day of the worst terrorist attack perpetrated by a guy from Afghanistan, something like that happens in Afghanistan. (Not to mention that Afghanistan was attacked a couple of months later) Apparently, it was between the Taliban and some other rebel group, or something. I don't really know the details, because the quote "the events of September 11th" has become synonymous with "The WTC and pentagon attacks". Nobody remembers the other attack that happened that day. Could 9/11 have been a distraction from something else? Maybe Gary Condit orchestrated the whole thing to take the heat off him. (Remember Gary Condit?!)

I think I like being a conspiracy theorist. This is fun! Seriously though, does anybody here actually remember this? I swear I'm not making it up.
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Show_Me _The_Truth Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 05:27 PM
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1. Northern Alliance
was the name of the faction involved. The connection had already been made with Al-Qeda and people were expecting something to happen in Afghanistan very quickly.

The Northern Alliance launched a rocket attack on Taliban positions b/c Al-Qeda had killed the Northern Alliance Commander with a bomb hidden in a camera after the suicide bomber posed as a journalist.

People thought it was the begning of the US response to the Taliban and Al-Qeda.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 11:36 AM
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2. Asking for input while calling people wingnuts - not good strategy
Are you serious? You raise an interesting question about an important series of events that presaged 9/11 -- namely the murder of Ahmed Shah Massoud just days before 9/11 and the ensuing bombings -- but you start off insulting everyone you want input from by calling them wingnuts.

Would be glad to discuss it some day when you learn how to post a repectful OP.
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boolean Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 11:53 AM
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3. geez...
As if "wingnut" is the mother of all insults. :shrug:

To be quite honest, I'm not too big on conspiracy theories, but (like I already said), that doesn't mean I can't be open minded either. There HAVE been conspiracies in the past (Nixon, for example) and I'm not so obtuse as to believe the official government line (ESPECIALLY this lying sack of shit government). In this case, (the Afghanistan thing), there seems to be a legitimate "coincidence".

However, in many cases, it's way too over the top (The media manipulated the video, for example), hence where the "wingnut" label comes in. Maybe you guys ought to be more realistic in your theories. I'm all for bush manipulating intelligence to start wars, outing of CIA agents for political payback, secretly spying on political opponents, giving no bid contracts to Halliburton, etc...These conspiracies are all very realistic and have merit. Saying that a building in the foreground was digitally moved from the right side to the left side of the screen by the media (for god knows what reason)? Not so much.

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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 01:15 PM
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4. "you guys"?
Do you assume that everyone on this forum believes in pods, digitally moved buildings or alien lizard overlords? If you have read this forum, you know that different people have different theories about what happened, and lumping everyone together as believing in digitally moved buildings so that you can label everyone "wingnuts" is not going to get you very far here.

Actually a lot of people here are more focused on intelligence and money connections than you seem to realize.
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boolean Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 01:32 PM
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5. For god's sake
When I said "you guys" I meant the ones that I called wingnuts.
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 01:42 PM
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6. Rule #1
When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.
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PerpetualYnquisitive Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 03:09 PM
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7. Despite your petty insults....
I will share some information with you. I am going through my footage from that afternoon and I have yet to find any video footage from Afghanistan that was filmed in night vision, Though I do have a couple of clips showing Nic Robertson broadcasting by videophone and it is even stated in it, that "this is certainly the only video that you are going to get from Kabul, Afghanistan at this point", by the CNN TelePromptReader©.

What I find interesting is that he gets cut off after he states that he doubts the Northern Alliance is responsible.

As to the missiles hitting the targets around the city, "These blast points... too accurate for Sand People, only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise." <-(yoinked from G. Lucas)

This footage is from roughly 6:00pm EST.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 05:42 PM
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8. It's a well know fact
that the Northern Alliance launched an attack on the Taliban near Kabul at about 6:00 PM on 9-11-06. Just another one of those coincidences I'm sure. :sarcasm:



6 p.m.: Explosions are heard in Kabul, Afghanistan, hours after terrorist attacks targeted financial and military centers in the United States. The attacks occurred at 2:30 a.m. local time. Afghanistan is believed to be where bin Laden, who U.S. officials say is possibly behind Tuesday's deadly attacks, is located. U.S. officials say later that the United States had no involvement in the incident whatsoever. The attack is credited to the Northern Alliance, a group fighting the Taliban in the country's ongoing civil war.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/chronology.attack/index.html

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boolean Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 10:54 PM
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9. You know what I think?
I think that this attack may have been a quick attempt to try to get Osama right away. Since there was no "official" warning of a counter attack, the administration covered it up and made it to be an unrelated thing between the taliban and the northern alliance. Had they gotten Osama, maybe it would've been different.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 10:41 AM
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10. That makes absolutely, positively no sense.
Why would the US drop missiles on Kabul to "get Osama right away" when bin Laden was never based in Kabul? He was based in various training camps and compounds outside the major cities.

Your theory also doesn't explain at all the mainstream media reports of what happened. It does not take account of the assassination of Gen. Massoud, leader of the Northern Alliance, two days before 9/11.

The mainstream explanation is that the Taliban killed Massoud in anticipation of 9/11. They assumed that the US would aid the Northern Alliance, so they eliminated its most effective and popular leader before hand. The attack on Kabul is explained as retaliation by the Northern Alliance for the assassination of Massoud.

On the other hand, if Massoud had not been killed, and 9/11 had taken place, the leader of post Taliban Afghanistan would be Shah Massoud, not former oil industry executive Mohammed Karzai. You can draw your own conclusions from that.
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Slaughtermeyer Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:55 PM
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11. 9/11 diverted attention from missing Pentagon trillions
Rumsfeld announced on the afternoon of the 10th that over $2 trillion in Department of Defense funds was unaccounted for. Usually bad news like that is announced on a Friday.
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