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theoceansnerves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:48 PM
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did anyone else think bush did worse this time?
the first hour was horrific! he was yelling and whining and interrupting the moderator. they must have been yelling in his earpiece to calm the hell down because the last half hour was different, he wasn't yelling, just lying and rambling.
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:48 PM
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1. Yes. MUCH Worse! He was defensive, whiny, and confrontational.
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WilmywoodNCparalegal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:49 PM
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2. The yelling got to me
I thought he looked even less presidential than last time... he looked like a whiny child.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:50 PM
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3. I'm glad someone created this topic
I thought it was clear that Bush was worse. And I'm someone who admitted that Edwards just edged out a victory against Dick "Mr. Potter" Cheney.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:51 PM
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4. Angry, testy, bullied the moderator, out of control!
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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:52 PM
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5. I do!
Bush had a meldown over the coalition. Instead of his head-tilt-pursed-lips, at times he looked like he'd had 3 beers. He was yelling. Basically called the woman who asked about the 3 mistakes a shill.

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neomonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:52 PM
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6. I think he did in the respect
that he melted down after 6:38

The pundits have been focusing on the first 37 mintes though

we need to hammer them!
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:53 PM
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7. Most definitely.
Bush just stunk. He was giving his right-wing "rally the base" talking points for every question. The problem with that? This debate was supposed to be about appealing to the undecideds. You know, the ones who don't buy into either the conservative or liberal agendas.

Team Bush badly screwed up, IMHO. Of course I'm glad they did. :)
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:58 PM
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8. Kennedy?
WTF? You were debating John Kerry dumb ass. Bush did what he had to do. People want to believe his BS then fine. None of his answers make sense. Kerry blew the 87 billion question again! Talk about the presidents threatened veto for christ sakes!
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 10:06 PM
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24. I thought it was just my hearing that was at fault
glad someone else heard it also.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 10:03 PM
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15. Yes, I echo your analysis ...
My favorite Bush-Screw-Up was when he wouldn't listen to Charlie Gibson's follow-up question because he was in such a lather to answer Kerry's original SLAM DUNK! Way to go Team Kerry!!!
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:59 PM
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9. Less smirking
but on substance, just as bad as the first round.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 10:00 PM
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10. I thought he was absolutely worse.
Edited on Fri Oct-08-04 10:01 PM by girl gone mad
Last time he just looked dumb and annoyed.

This time he looked MEAN, dumb and annoyed.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 10:01 PM
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11. Much, much worse. "Abroad...we're at war"
The Iraq report said Saddam was cheating....Diesel engines?
The mistake answer? "they mean..."
Disastruous! And Kerry was even better as well!
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kerryin2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 10:01 PM
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12. The man had a fucking meltdown!!
Not one reporter has called him on his yelling at Charlie Gibson yet!!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 10:01 PM
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13. No. I think he played to his base. He was "strong" tonight.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 10:02 PM
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14. He had no where to go but up
Yeah he did better. but I agree the yelling was not effective to stopping the momentum and I don't think he sold people on Kerry's liberalism
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MissKitty Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 10:05 PM
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21. I'm kinda new here but...
I thought GWB came across as the RUDE, Brsh, and arrogant, bully that has turned the world against us..
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 10:03 PM
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16. the fist hour was terrible
Edited on Fri Oct-08-04 10:05 PM by nadinbrzezinski
then he recovered, and he still lost
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 10:04 PM
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17. It was the same. n/t
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Zech Marquis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 10:04 PM
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18. when * snapped at Gibson
he lost the dbate, and the election too. I coudn't believe what I saw :wow: and Kerry was so silky smooth and warm, the audience seemed to be much more open and welcoming to him than *!
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gemlake Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 10:05 PM
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19. Yes, he was completely out of control
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 10:05 PM
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20. We're gonna see what a few peeks of frenzied panic can do a CiC's image
We wait and see.
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IIgnoreNobody Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 10:06 PM
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22. He really looked desperate
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 10:06 PM
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23. Agree - annoyed instead of confident
not sure he knows the difference between looking annoyed vs. confident.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 10:11 PM
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25. I thought he was terrible
Stalking the stage like a meth addict, waving his arms and shouting at the audience...he looked like a deranged nut, a complete madman.

Kerry, in contrast, didn't whine, was calm and didn't shout, and he didn't scurry around wildly waving and pointing.

I think Bush was worse this time...in the first debate he looked incompetent, in this one he looked incompetent AND nutty.
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 10:16 PM
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26. MUCH worse than debate #1
About the best you could say was that he kept the smirking and scowling under control, but that's totally superficial. On the issues, he stank out loud.
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southern democrat Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 10:19 PM
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27. Bush was awful he did much worse tonight
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