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mumon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 08:46 AM
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The generic "Freepers are in meltdown mode after the debate" thread...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1239896/posts


To: FlyLow
Obviously ABC News thinks Americans are stupid. First they post a story about Bush wearing a microphone to the first debate so that he could be fed responses and now they pull this stunt. You would think that after CBS they would realize that the days of treating voters like uneducated sheep are over. Evidently they are the ones who are a little slow on the uptake! Time to boycott ABC News - that is if anyone actually watches it in the first place . . .

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To: FlyLow
ABC: Bush Distorts More than Kerry, So Must Be Held to Account
That's not quite what the memo said. That, if true, would be a statement of fac, demonstrable at least in theory. However what the memo actually said was that the distortions are a central part of Bush's campaign, but the even more extensive distortions of the Kerry campaign are not a central part of his campaign. That's a judgement call, and not direct demostrable. It's also, IMHO not true.

Time for the SwiftVets/POWs "October Surprise.".



Yes folks, they're quivering AGAIN!

Tee-hee!
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 08:52 AM
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1. "...a statement of fac, demonstrable at least in theory"
Back away from the crack pipe, guys.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 08:53 AM
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2. Shorter version of second postlet:
"Time for more lies"
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mumon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 09:04 AM
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3. Yep. All they have now is lies...
and maybe an October surprise.

Or maybe Kerry's got one or three surprises.

I'm suspecting the latter.

These guys don't know what they're up against.
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Longhorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:39 AM
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4. Here's what they're talking about, an ABC memo:
Halperin Memo Dated Friday October 8, 2004

It goes without saying that the stakes are getting very high for the country and the campaigns - and our responsibilities become quite grave

I do not want to set off (sp?) and endless colloquy that none of us have time for today - nor do I want to stifle one. Please respond if you feel you can advance the discussion.

The New York Times (Nagourney/Stevenson) and Howard Fineman on the web both make the same point today: the current Bush attacks on Kerry involve distortions and taking things out of context in a way that goes beyond what Kerry has done.

Kerry distorts, takes out of context, and mistakes all the time, but these are not central to his efforts to win.

We have a responsibility to hold both sides accountable to the public interest, but that doesn't mean we reflexively and artificially hold both sides "equally" accountable when the facts don't warrant that.

I'm sure many of you have this week felt the stepped up Bush efforts to complain about our coverage. This is all part of their efforts to get away with as much as possible with the stepped up, renewed efforts to win the election by destroying Senator Kerry at least partly through distortions.

It's up to Kerry to defend himself, of course. But as one of the few news organizations with the skill and strength to help voters evaluate what the candidates are saying to serve the public interest. Now is the time for all of us to step up and do that right.


from: http://www.politicalstrategy.org/archives/000520.php
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requiem99 Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 10:57 AM
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5. Holy shit, did ABC really say this? DYNAMITE.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:09 AM
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6. OMG Does this mean they're going to tell the truth?
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:21 AM
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7. It means they're at least going to try, I think. n/t
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:21 AM
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8. Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KKKarl will be calling them insane and unpatriotic, but they know the truth!
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